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Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-23-2013 3:45 PM The whole movie leads to death and destruction. Shaw sends out a warning to who ever can hear it to stay away.
With everybody dead there just doesn't seem to be a reason to go back to it.
And it is filled with WMD that can wipe out any and all civilizations on Earth.
Sounds like a threat to me.
Why not destroy all of the pyramids at this location(destroying the entire moon does seem a bit far fetched).
With David's head on his soldiers and Shaw motivated to find the real Gods then destroy what you can so there is not attack from the rear, let alone give the Deacon a ride on the Highway to hell.
We already know there are some explosives under the stored Juggernauts.
If David can fly one then he could activste all of those around to either self destruct or set a collision course with each of the pyramids in this valley.
The destruction of this base would set the serious tone for Shaw/David to meet up with the next level of Engineers/Gods in Paradise.
What ever entity is at the next Engineer stop could see the results of human involvement,
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Visionary Alpha
MemberOvomorphJan-23-2013 4:28 PMI think they should leave LV 223 behind. If they do know a way to destroy the pyramids totally, then they'd learn about it in the new movie and do it. It would be okay with me, but I'm more set to just see the engineers' home world. I also don't like calling them gods, or any comparison between them and anything from any real life religion.

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-23-2013 4:37 PMYou are right in the use of god. It was just for me shorthand version of what we have been talking about on various threads.
They are not gods in the human sense .
It would be hard to to even imagine trying to meet god in whatever form it exists in. Maybe god is formless.
I sort of understand your wanting to leave LV 223 alone but after so much losss I felt the humans should leave their mrk we were here.
If the goo finds anythin living good. If not then at least in human terms our world has been warned to stay away.
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Major Noob
MemberOvomorphJan-23-2013 5:39 PMI could see how Shaw might want to destroy it, but not anybody else. All these movies are about that moth to the flame attraction to exotic energies, someone who doesn't have to go themselves will happily send any number of bodies to their cold hideous graves to capture a morsel of that mojo. Story wise, they might have to erase it somehow , though.
God is not inappropriate, I don't think, it's the core of the story, the search for God, and also the aspiration to Godhood, which I don't think is limited to Weyland.

ThatSM
MemberOvomorphJan-23-2013 5:59 PMHow would Shaw and David have destroyed a bunch gigantic pyramids?

pulserifle187
MemberOvomorphJan-24-2013 1:07 AMweyland industries should get to work on a death star...that would take care of lv223
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Wormhole Urn
MemberOvomorphJan-24-2013 3:04 AMThey could be other moons/planets which have a similar stock of black goo. So trying to destroy Lv-223 becomes pointless unfortunately.
I don't mind the term of Gods. In the mythology, they can be very destructive. In that sense, Engineers can be qualified as such. In some cave paintings which Shaw and Holloway found, we can see humans worshipping them like Gods.

Visionary Alpha
MemberOvomorphJan-24-2013 2:24 PM@Major Noob:
Just because Ridley Scott seems to have made a search for God the core of the story, doesn't mean I have to like it. Any true sci-fi will not borrow from or slight a real world religion, as Star Trek demonstrated maybe better than anything else. "All -powerful" beings like "Q", for example, weren't presented as "Gods", although they could have been.

Visionary Alpha
MemberOvomorphJan-24-2013 2:27 PMMr. Scott and his writers were going to say the engineer at the end who went on a rampage was actually Jesus! I can't even think of a better example of being offensive and short-sighted.

Visionary Alpha
MemberOvomorphJan-24-2013 2:40 PM@Indy John:
I don't think it would be a waste to destroy the pyramids on LV 223, even if there are many other moons with the black goo and other dangerous things on them, because it would still be a good thing to do, and to destroy them all one at a time.
I think the pyramids shouldn't be destroyed, however, that is, in the next movie, because they sort of daunt us and that's part of the fear-factor of the story, which is becoming more of a saga. I've also read a few posts on this website with entertaining ideas for new encounters on LV 223, by a new team that comes from Earth. Such action could be part of the next movie, with it cutting back and forth from Shaw and those people also have a means to influence the future.
As I've written, Shaw could intend to attack the engineers with their bio-weapon, and if more explosive weapons are available, we wouldn't see this deployed or take much prominence. In many ways, however, Shaw is being extremely foolish. The reaction of the first engineer encountered was to wipe out life on Earth, and Shaw will now attack the others?! It's very risky, because even if they talk to her they might make the same judgments and come to Earth--where she came from--en masse, with nothing to stop them!
This is one reason it's so important to look upon the last engineer's reaction as a personal, individual's decision and rage. He acted independently, not as part of a group effort, and the other engineers might have imprisoned him in his cryo-pod because of his intentions.
There was so much going on on LV 223, and we are only given bits and pieces.

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-24-2013 3:52 PMThanks for your post Visionary Alpha
Engineer as prisoner is something new to me. I may have missed then posts on that.
So if he acted independently than Shaw/David have a chance to reason with the next batch of Engineers they encounter.
If the next group of Engineers are related to our Last Engineer (and we know what his reaction was to seeing humans after 5 minutes) then our duo will be doomed.
There was a mention from some source that RS didn't want people wrtiting long essays about the Prometheus and it's meaning ect. Fans have many more questions than answers based on the presentation(Not spoon fed was mentioned by posters)
You can't have both ways :a film with many unaswered questions causing you to think and communicate to others or a Film that answers all questions with little discussion afterwards.
Either way it is a fascinating ride.
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cuponator3000
MemberChestbursterJan-24-2013 7:03 PMdestroying lv223 is an interesting idea to me, because i don't know how significant it is to anyone. other than just having this thought for ourselves i can't really tell you if it is a good idea or not because I don't know if it concerns the actual story.
On the subject of calling then gods or not, it is also an intersting thought to me, because it is appropiate from one point of view. from shaws pooint of view, they are kind of like god to humans because they made us(even if she doesn't think them to be the spiritual power she believes in) and david considers them nothing but aliens. he probably thinks they are inferior to him so engineer is a perfect word.
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Indy John
MemberOvomorphJan-25-2013 5:18 AM@cuponator3000
You words that Shaw believes the Engineers made us but are not the spiritual power is curious to me.
Can God be two entities as you suggest? My thinking was always one God for everything.
Who know if anything discussed here is really important in the overall storyline.
It may be something that has been overlooked and not even mentioned on this site.
THe story is what we see and experience in the movie.
If RS and writers had to consider every thread suggested by posters(including all of the subliminal mesages) the script would have taken decades to complete and the actual movie a 5 day viewing event.
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shambs
MemberOvomorphJan-25-2013 8:27 PMThe only good reason to return to LV-223 is the Deacon, but I have a feeling that the sequel will focus on the Engineer's homeworld, but I guess that there might be a parallel story about the companies and IMO the only God could be the creator of Engineers, although we don't know if that will be revealed one day.
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