A highly recommended documentary on UFOs relevent to any Prometheus or Sci Fi fa
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nostromo001
MemberOvomorphFeb-06-2013 12:14 AMI recently saw a UFO documentary that investigated the small percentage of creditable evidence for UFO sightings entitled '[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtBnB8ONiJA] Secret Access: UFO's on the Record[/url]. Normally I don't pay too much attention to this subject as over 95 percent of the photos or videos on line are fraudulent, but my attention was captured as I watched this fascinating documentary on the subject and Prometheus remained in the back of my mind during the whole viewing. This subject has long been ridiculed by the US government, who long ago established the official policy of denial and redirection that they practice. However in spite of their efforts to dissuade the population at large of any open minded investigation into the subject of UFO phenomena, increasingly strong evidence has been accumulating including the Phoenix lights of 1997, the events at Rendlesham airforce base in the UK in 1980 and the over 2 year Belgian wave of sightings that are truly incredible from 29 November 1989 to April 1990. This latter series of thousand of sightings involved the Belgian government establishing a protocol of scrambling F16s as they took an unknown incursion into NATO airspace quite seriously.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/TriangleBelgium1990.jpg[/img]
One of the photographs that came out of this huge group of sightings was investigated by many scientific experts in photographic and other disciplines to determine not only validity but to attempt to determine what type of propulsion systems could these craft use to move so silently and instantly at enormous velocities and it was found by a nuclear physicist at U. Paris Sud that high magnetic fields were detectable in the slide in question. This suggested a magneto plasma dynamic propulsion system meaning the force generated is magnetic in origin generated from electricity through the following equation:
F = q[b]E[/b] + q( v X[b] H[/b])/ c,
where[b] E[/b] is an electric field,[b] H[/b] is a magnetic field , v is the velocity of a particle and c is the speed of light with X being the cross product of the two vectors.
This is consistent with all the most credible sightings and the characteristic movements as mentioned above. I highly recommend to all serious Prometheus or Sci Fi fans to watch this documentary as I personally found it to be the most well constructed and valid treatise on the subject and suggests how interstellar space craft as depicted in all the Alien franchise and Prometheus could travel to distant star systems at greater than light speeds. Craft capable of utilizing magneto plasma propulsion systems would neatly solve the problem of how great distances could be covered by ships like the Prometheus or Nostromo although the shapes would have to be significantly modified for aerodynamics and there would probably not be any visible propellant ejected from the rockets as seen from the Prometheus or Narcissus. [url=http://douglastrumbull.com/videos]Douglas Trumbull[/url] who has worked with Ridley Scott on Blade Runner as well as other huge Sci Fi directors is also shown with his proposed project entitled UFOTOG , for which I am also providing a link is an important speaker on this excellent documentary of UFOs. I was trained by the University of California in Chemistry and am not easy to fool, so take the word of a PhD scientist who has vetted this show as the real thing. Also Doug Trumbull should be greatly invested in if anybody out there has any funding ideas for him.
[img]http://0.tqn.com/d/chemistry/1/0/E/1/1/chemistry-glassware.jpg[/img]
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joeyjoe
MemberOvomorphFeb-06-2013 3:06 AMive seen the documentary that you are referring to. Ive also read the book that inspired the production of the aforementioned documentary (ufo's by leslie kean).
I completely agree with you. Despite being fundamentally interesting, the world of UFO/E.T. research etc. is filled to the brim with quackery and hokum. the original book, as well as the documentary "ufo's: on the record", are both refreshingly compelling. Absolutely worth watching/reading. Kean's work is some of the very best available on the subject. Thanks for the post @nostromo! havent read/seen these in a while...think i might have to crack open the book again!

Kane77
MemberOvomorphFeb-07-2013 12:08 PMNo Ufos..the black triangle aircrafts, TR-3B Astra, are projects by the secret military since the 80ies.
http://thesop.org/story/20121126/tr3b-tactical-reconnaissance-nuclear-powered-aerospace-platform.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29
http://www.hidden-truth.org/secrecy/unknown-crafts/black-triangle-ufo-tr-3b-qastraq
cheers
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphFeb-10-2013 2:46 AMThanks so much Kane77. I knew when I saw this documentary that this was real but you have provided an explanation that is completely consistent in terms of craft and technology. You will notice above I said that photographic analysis of the Belgian slide provided data indicating a strong magnetic field suggesting a magneto-dynamic propulsion system. The TR-3B with its super cooled mercury plasma system which is a gravity distortion device would explain the strong magnetic field surrounding the craft as observed through the slide. Also this technology would explain the totally silent flight ability along with the dramatic changes in both direction and acceleration to unknown velocities. By the way I am attaching a link from You tube that is said to be a [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XZpqpBVOa1U]TR-3B in flight[/url] along with an intervivew with the scientist[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rlKFeWkdZdY] Ed Fouche[/url] who used to work at area 51, which apparently has been used for decades to test super secret craft such as the TR-3B and who states that these technoglies were backward engineered from real UFOs. If that is true then not all UFOs are or were US government black project crafts.
[img]http://0.tqn.com/d/chemistry/1/0/E/1/1/chemistry-glassware.jpg[/img]
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphFeb-10-2013 2:55 AMFurther below is a proposed image of a TR-3B
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-01VWFRGPjJs/TxxGIJvOHWI/AAAAAAAAGTE/xD3HrL8Uhys/s1600/The+Tr-3B+Astra+airplane+2+top+secret+airplanes.jpg[/img]
along with a schematic of the craft here:
[img]http://s1.hubimg.comhttps://www.scified.com/u/693244_f520.jpg[/img]
Notice the simialrity to the Belgain craft shown in the original post, so good call Kane77. The implication in this context is that we could be much closer to viable technology that could be used to reach other star systems as depicted in all the Alien movie franchise and Prometheus. I have much to read on the TR-3B , also known as the Astra and the Aurora project that gave birth to it, to determine if this propulsion system would work well in deep space, but based upon the description of the systems used it should work.
[img]http://0.tqn.com/d/chemistry/1/0/E/1/1/chemistry-glassware.jpg[/img]
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphFeb-10-2013 12:18 PMPS Kane77 you can use the link buttons above the posting window and also the picture link button to create direct links to the websites you mentioned above. For example for the first one I am attaching a link [url=http://thesop.org/story/20121126/tr3b-tactical-reconnaissance-nuclear-powered-aerospace-platform.html][u]here[/u][/url], and for the second one, it can be found [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29][u]here[/u][/url] and then the final one is [url=http://www.hidden-truth.org/secrecy/unknown-crafts/black-triangle-ufo-tr-3b-qastraq][u]here[/u][/url].
[img]http://0.tqn.com/d/chemistry/1/0/E/1/1/chemistry-glassware.jpg[/img]

Mateo
MemberOvomorphFeb-10-2013 1:29 PMnice to reading Nostromo! I am a follower of UFOs, and TV series, the most reliable and ever done, [i]Project UFO (1978)[/i], did you know that?
[i][b]Ezekiel saw the wheel. This is the wheel he said he saw[/b][/i]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnVx76ieSFU]Project U.F.O. (1978-1979)[/url]
nostromo001
MemberOvomorphFeb-10-2013 11:24 PMI'll check it out Mateo. Thanks. Its a fascinating subject and I think it is a story that is finely and gradually coming out. If the US backward engineered UFO technology, which it is looking strongly like they have, due to the confluence of evidence that consistently tells the same story from different vantage points, then they would make it a matter of stricktest national security and super top secret. I can finely see what they are trying to protect and keep under wraps. Not that I agree with their decision but i am just saying that I can at least better understand why they would go to such enormous efforts to keep it under wraps. But the lid is coming off the pot and I don't think it was wise of them to withhold this secret from our NATO allies such as Belgium, as when they started testing these things over their country -assuming it was US and not more real UFOs, then it backed up in our faces because unlike us, they felt it was a responsibility to approach this subject in on open and straight forward manner by scrambling F16s and going after them. All they knew was that they were experiencing an incursion into NATO airspace over their country and that was their responsibility to take seriously during the Belgian wave back in '89-90. The one good photo that turned up during that period ,upon analysis did show a strong magnetic field and that directly describes the signature of the new TR-3b Astra and Aurora project technology. Now the whole picture is falling into place. And the general story behind this huge leap in technology is that it was backward engineered from crashed UFOs that came here from somewhere else!
[img]http://0.tqn.com/d/chemistry/1/0/E/1/1/chemistry-glassware.jpg[/img]

Kane77
MemberOvomorphFeb-12-2013 5:11 PMI must say after 9/11 and the years after I´m totally off the UFO and alien/abductee-whatever topics. After realizing more and more whats really going on, especially in the ´UFO´-phenomenon, its no fun . fiction is fine but its a shame what BS people REALLY believe, the ancient astronaut series etc..millions take this crap for granted and are uneducated/ ignorant..just look at boards like ATS etc...
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