The Truth

Shambhala- well there is certainly no lack of passion here, and its very cool to have a space horror movie that is so unique that even after its been played out over 30 years and 6 films so many still have it dear to their hearts. I can totally see how Prometheus would be a very frustrating experience for them, and I do respect that, it could have happened to me, too. But you and I are of a mind, this new direction has tremendous potential and is really exciting. It worked, it has people talking and as you know, I'm all for spinning yarns. Prior to the films release there were so many amazing ideas bouncing around here. I'm reluctant to say that now that the story has been told, its sacred. I don't think that was the idea anyway. IMO.

Interesting story either way, and isn't Ridley working on a project about Moses right now. Seems a popular subject with him if the stuff in this thread is to be believed.. [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2013/mar/18/christian-bale-moses-ridley-scott]Ridley Scott's biblical epic (Moses)[/url]

That's right, and obviously has nothing to do with Prometheus.

but no doubt will be a version with steroids of Moses :p

Hey I hope my Engineers are not gonna get destroyed cuz they're my favorite alien beings after all. I agree it might not even be a real because it just doesnt seem like something Ridley Scott has had planned. I know plans change but this, this is ridiculous having Paradise being shown at the end?.....HUH! What did I hear that right?.... Bullcrap Watts-Spaihts. Its not even the real John Spaihts because people that have become famous dont talk to the fans only when we want an autograph. Besides I'm not worried at all the movie is still 2-3 years away.

Shambhala, I know that some people can tell the difference like you and I, but if you read some of the responses you can tell that, at least initially some people were accepting 'The Truth' as having been spawned from authentic insider info! This is why I wanted some clarification here! My stomach was beginning to turn! I'm all for folks creatively writing new stories and more power too them, even if I disagree with some ideas I read. I have even been known to piece together a likely scenario for Paradise based upon what we now know. I just think it only fair to make it clear to readers when we are spinning a yarn as this is a varied group of fans coming from different backgrounds and different countries some speaking English as a second language so you can't assume they automatically know the difference between fact and fiction, science or otherwise.

Hey [i]Watts-Spaihts[/i], interesting topic! Just wanted to let you know I edited your post, adding some spaces between each point so it's a bit easier to read. I also fixed some spelling errors. Nothin major. As for the topic itself, I'm not sure if [b]Prometheus 2[/b] will venture further back in time, being essentially a prequel-prequel, as that might get a little confusing. However I am intrigued by your mention of [i]Egyptians, Slaves, Pyramids, Moses and Exodus[/i]. Whether the themes of each are used in [b]Prometheus 2[/b] or [b]Prometheus 3[/b], it's still interesting. I think for sure there will be some issues within the Engineer society. Whether all the good Engineers are wiped out already, or converted to the "dark side", I'm not sure. But your mention of their rebellious acts against their creators makes for a whole new set of questions. Don't you think their creators would be similar in relation to us and the Engineers? Surely the Engineers would be weak and small in comparison. However, you do bring up the 'Xenomorph' factor which could be the turning point in this feud war. You say the Engineers created the Xenomorph, after extracting their "super-human" traits out of their own DNA, but what if the Xenomorphs were the tools of their Gods, [i]Their[/i] Gods' fire, which they steal and try to use against them instead? Would make for quite the [b]PROMETHEUS[/b] reference, not to mention ironic comparison to that of the Humans which went looking for them.

thank you,nostromo001! now i can see. but,yeah,it's really interesting to read some posts,gonna understand it all bit better now,thanx [quote]Natalie- I too am hoping for no space war, and I highly doubt we'll get one, except maybe as brief exposition. Just don't think it's Ridleys style.[/quote] Major Noob - absolutely.thank u:)

I wonder which Engineer will be Michael and which one will be Lucifer?

Egyptians, slaves, pyramids, Moses, Exodus... "You are all so stupid" -David 8. These are all from a new movie about Moses. Nothing to do with Prometheus at all. In my opinion (also stated by Ridley) we WILL meet God in the second film, the Engineers are not Gods, they are more like Dark Angels. (Doing God's bidding-maybe)

Ps- no one wants to see Marines vs Engineers!!! God help us if Cameron gets near this one. Aliens completely spit in the face of the original. I am at a point where I deny anything past the first film. I never want to see an Alien queen or any cheesy marines. We will meet God in the second film.

P1 was all over the place. the science team was bitten by goo, worms, water snakes, cobra-like snake, large Squid (the Engineer got bit), a science guy turned zombie, finally alien bursting out of Engineer's torso ... leaderless, confused, divided all die, except for the ineffectual Dr. Shaw. David manages to save himself by appealing to Dr. Shaw. But David can't be trusted. no seems to be able to handle things or prepare for unexpected events. through error the crew is always on the run, behind the 8 ball. a "science" crew member naively takes off his helmet, another plays here kitty with cobro-like water snakes, another throws a fit because it's not about his rocks... and not even a pea shooter comes along when entering a foreign vessel. is this the best man can do in 2092-93 ? none of the crew seem up to the job of confronting anything. was this the best plan for Weyland's important financial investment: all will be well in space. They will welcome man arms open? rather naive to expect only the warmest welcome. after all, we are mankind ? Unquestionably P1 has superb imagery, but the mental preparedness of the science crew was where ? Prometheus's captain is interested in exploring? hell, no, just Vickers' bedroom manners ...after all, that's why we travel 2 yrs asleep into space to chasse tall-legged chicks? were there any strong characters in P1 besides arrogant and ueber-ambitious Vickers ? the dialogue did not develop any strength in any of them, no special moments and no memorable lines .... all in all, the text did not shine and did not bring the cinematography of an alien environment to life. P1 is disappointing after a long wait. spectalural images, yes, but no interesting, unifying content or dialogue.

aw,i was just thinking about the same thing - dark angels,while reading this thread again)) i can't imagine the way to portray God,actually..cause it's everything,right?it's energy,it's tiny and huge,it's elusive and permanent. it can't be like someone's sitting on a throne and giving orders,huh? would be interesting to see anyway,this is just a movie after all:)) and,yeah,i too hope bio-weapons,alien queens won't be the core,just decoration,but then again it's a movie for the masses,so..we'll see

Hi, I liked how you expanded my Prometheus 2 Pitch idea. Hey read my Part II and Part III It will blow you away :) I hope

hadeze - david can't be trusted,for sure))) and on your other notes - there are moments like that in the "alien(s)" too,i believe.and in a lot of other movies,not only scifi ones,it's just an exaggerated reality. i've noticed the things you pointed out too,some of them,yes,but i wasn't that disappointed,maybe because i didn't expect anything. i like the dialog between shaw and david at the end,i like someone's scottish accent,or it's irish,whatever,nice))all david's hanging around at the beginning.

Fleshvessel-Have to agree with you on this one regarding Cameron! There is no doubt that the guy is super talented and genius capable, but his work invariably lacks psychological depth and as a result, he can do terror but never horror. For that you need Ridley Scott and that is why RS will always be a more powerful director in my opinion. All in all, its amusing how far afield this post has gotten so it has turned out one of the more entertaining ones in quite a while, regardless of the fact that I find the actual proposed story uninspired! lol.

the facehuggers (the large Squid) has become massive in P1... the result is the same, since it is an alien (almost like the aliens of Alien) which tears asunder the Engineer's chest. more complexity in the non-human kingdom. what is the connexion of the immense squid that fights with the Engineer. how does it connect to the face hugger & aliens of Alien 1? P1 touches down on LV 223 in the year 2093. Nostromo touched down on LV 426 in the year 2122, some 29 yrs later. therefore, the company knew from events on LV 223 about non-human lifeforms from Vickers report. she surely communicated all happenings in detail to home office. Vickers wants to be in charge and to lead at all cost. she wants to be on top of things. nevertheless, all is murky for what exactly does home office know about the alien species and/or the Engineers in 2093 ? Vickers is killed. the Alien does not arrive on the scene until after Vickers demise. the 2 alien space vessels from the outside look identical. there are differences in the pods inside. the shiny metallic pods on the Engineer vessel on LV 223 are for seeding planets. the larger organic pods in the alien vessel on LV 426 are for gestating aliens. if Ridley fought the aliens in Alien 1, 2, 3 ... the new heroine, Dr. Shaw, does not confront them. is she even aware of their potential ? she has met the (bad) Engineer, the massive Squid, but not the alien that was implanted in the Engineer. Dr. Shaw goes off in another direction, looking for the Engineers home world. her mission is therefore only tangential to the older alien story. are we going to see the relationship between the aliens, the Squid, the Engineers and the species that programmed the Engineers in P2 ? Lots of threads that may or may not be tied together.

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Nostromo-totally agree with you about Cameron, but with regard to Benito, be nice! Prometheus has sparked his imagination, and he's having fun with it. I think RS would approve! Benito- don't stop. Hadeze- maybe the Trilobite is the original face hugger, or one designed for a larger species, like.. the Space Jockey? Svanya-I am very popular with my dog. One could say she finds me to be a celebrity. Can I get a VIP?