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MemberFacehuggerOct-14-2013 8:19 AMI read a section and I noticed the parts where the engineer speaks.
I can imagine that some sentences were used for the deleted scene.
It has a very deep sense. Some part we can understand...
...but he engineer just knows the bad things of earth and not the beautiful things of life.
I wrote some comments to it:
[b]LAST ENGINEER[/b]
[i]This is not my home world. My home world is Paradise. I not did ask your kind to come here. Why is you're presence disturbing my atmosphere?[/i]
(But he should know that life develops itself and sometime we will become highly developed. )
[b]LAST ENGINEER[/b]
[i]Many worlds have been crafted by the hand of our fathers through the blood of our lord. Yours was the only one[/i]
[i]that was successful. The Star child of the universe. Yours is the only star child that is like our home world.[/i]
(Wow. More worlds than ours and his? What kind of creature? Sounds a bit like the bible or a bit poetic. The last sentence would make more sense without "child". Like "Yours is the only star that is like our home world." Sir Scott said something different about it. I am really excited how their home world will look like. :-)
[b]LAST ENGINEER[/b]
[i]Hate? We gave you this emotion. We gave you all emotion[/i]
[i]We had expected not of your evolution. We took care of you, gave you fire, built your structures. We gave you Eden.[/i]
[i]You worshiped us. We praised our creation from above. We watched you time and time again kill each other, start wars.[/i]
[i]We came back and saved your souls but we left you to make your own fate. But your kind is a barbaric violent[/i]
[i]species. We tried once more to save you. We took a mothers child back to Paradise and educated him, taught him the meaning of life and creation.[/i]
[i]We put him back into Eden to educate your kind. But your kind decided to punish him. We gave you the fruits of life and you repay us by leaving it to rot.[/i]
[i]You talk of me of hate? Prepare for rapture![/i]
(Where does the evil came from? Not from them?
.... What does he mean with "Mothers child"? Jesus? And "Fruits of life"?
[b]LAST ENGINEER[/b]
[i]Your kind is not worthy of this. What makes you think[/i]
[i]I shall give you this prize. Tell me, Why?[/i]
"A king has his reign and then he dies. It's inevitable."
Thats what Meredith Vickers said to Peter Weyland.
What do you think?
Here is the link-->[url=http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/uploads/PROMETHEUS.pdf]Source Link[/url]
*Source link added to main thread by Svanya
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Fleshvessel
MemberOvomorphOct-14-2013 1:42 PMRead a section of what? Where are you pulling this dialog from? As soon as i see The Jesus Angle creep in; i become hugely skeptical.
THETRICKISNOTMINDINGITHURTS
granolaboy
MemberOvomorphOct-14-2013 5:50 PM@ 123Engineer : Where did you get this "translated and extended"
speech of the last engineer ??? I've been around here for a while and never heard about this before...
https://www.behance.net/kpuchetbarette
The First Child
MemberOvomorphOct-15-2013 12:40 AMWell
This changes a few things...
Did you get this from the original Prometheus script? The one that wasn't messed with by Lindeof?
I read the original script. I can remember the Engineer getting into a heated debate with David.
But not like this.
Please respond because if you got this from an official source than you have basically discovered a major plot point.
Svanya
AdminPraetorianOct-15-2013 12:59 AM@123Engineer; You should link the source of where you got that from, that would be awesome. :)
Anunnaki50
MemberOvomorphOct-15-2013 1:12 AMYes it would be so cool to see if it really was supposed to be part of the films plotline. The Anunnaki/Engineers are the makers of man and they just like the Sumerian version, a deity named Enlil was fed up with humankinds aweful decisions about how we treated eachother and their "gods". His older brother Enki called us in the texts His Beloved Humans and he wanted us to continue and later convinced his younger brother to let us be. According to these 3,000 year old tablets of Ashurbanipal in Nineveh, he claimed to have knowledge and language of the Shumerian people in pre-Diluvial times.
The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno
djamelameziane
MemberFacehuggerOct-15-2013 3:33 AMYes strange that this would come out now. Does sound like it fits though. Who made it? I have always though the goo was blood so I like that this fits :) .
"It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D
pulserifle187
MemberOvomorphOct-15-2013 5:48 AMCheck a deleted scene on the DVD 'paradise'. It maybe some comformation. Shaw said to david "what did that thing say to you before it ripped your head off"
David repleies" there is no direct translation....but some your ancient cultures had a word for it....paradise"
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"
pulserifle187
MemberOvomorphOct-15-2013 5:56 AMWhen they meet the engineer,david is translating for weyland....he never mentioned paradise. Maybe david wasn't telling weyland the truth.....adding weight to the theory that david has his ownagenda.
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"
123Engineer
MemberFacehuggerOct-15-2013 7:44 AMhttp://www.prometheus2-movie.com/uploads/PROMETHEUS.pdf
Sry. I forgot. It was the 17 script bx Damon Lindelof.
BigDave
MemberDeaconOct-15-2013 8:24 AMWell i will read that script when i have time....
But i do know the movie had a lot more Engineer Dialog that was either shot or certainly was supposed to.
As Fassbender said he had to learn pages and pages of Dialog, now we never saw so much in the movie, not even in the deleted scenes.
Also the actor who played the Sacrificial Engineers also confirmed he had to learn Alien Dialog for the movie....
Now the Sacrificial Engineer and even deleted scene of the Elders there was not a single word spoken.
Both to me confirm indeed the final draft did have more Engineer Dialect both during the Sacrificial Scene and also Engineer Speaks scenes.
If the draft 17 is legit it could cover a lot to do with what angle they was going to go for, and confirm the 2000 year ago Jesus relation.
Which could well be they intended him to be a Hybrid Engineer/Human Star Child.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Svanya
AdminPraetorianOct-15-2013 2:52 PM@123Engineer; Thanks, I'll add that link to the main thread. :)
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 3:28 PMEngineer123
Well well well
How interesting thanks for poasting
Bigdave
This is a must read. I am unable to copy from the pdf on my bb but it seems that the elders are indeed the same as the sacrificial engineer they are however much much older many hundreds of thousands of yesrs. The elder states that the ability to reproduce was stripped form them a long time ago.. The liquid in the container is the blood of their lord .
So who stripped them of their ability to reproduce ? Who is their lord ? Where did the younger engineer come from ?
Engineer123 thank you so much for posting I have only read the first three pages and what an eye opener because we get some idea what lindelof was thinking.
A must read for anyone passionate about prometheus.
Gold !!!!
Thanks you so much engineer 123.
Where did you get this ??
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 3:40 PMWow !!!!!
Check out page 14!!
Chris bigdave gavin svanya where are you guys ????
David explains why fifield was chosen and that he wouldn't have been his first choice and that was in fact meredith vickers that chose him .
WOW !!!!
Thanks engineer
123 for posting !!!
Where did you get this ??
Have any of the other members read this ???
This is really interesting !!!
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 3:43 PMFifield is a drug addict and was thrown out of a previous mission from an nger outburst ???
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 3:51 PMTo all you prometheus haters go - take this and assimilate - lindelof said from the start that there was answers to all the mysterious - and this prooves it - there is much more to this .
To all you prometheus haters go..... Yousrselves.
TAKE THAT .....!!!!
I am really worked up now.
See it wasn't lindelof that wanted the ambiguity - nor ridley (he wanted to go the xeno route) it was fox (or maybe brandywine).
Lindeof you have my respect (and so does spaihts.
Staff
Sorry for being such an asshole. But I can't help myself
I am passionate about prometheus
So to all who stuck with it from the start
CHEERS !!!!!!
I feel like a kid on christmas morning !!!!
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 3:56 PMI don't care if its canon or not - it shows what the writers thinking was - weyland looks seventy but is actually in his nineties - he spent a quarter of his life cryo sleep. Page 18
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:05 PMPage 26
Our mini satellites surveyed the planets ?
Were they launched by prometheus ?
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:07 PMPage 28
We've got a couple of hard spots could be metal ......picked up bu the probes
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:11 PMChris
Check out page 33 - 34.
Vickers hired the asshole crew because she wanted the mission to fail !!
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:18 PMYou gotta read page 39.
Janek wanted then to return to the ship until after the the pups finished scanning. Holloway refused and janek called hoim an asshole !!!
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:21 PMP39 - 40 read why they got lost (hats fifield and milburn !!!!
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:23 PMNow now
Read what holloway has to say before taking his helmet of ...page 40
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:25 PMP41
It explains milburns reaction to the adult hammerpede -- maybe ??
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:28 PMFifield wanted them to come back the following morning yet holloway insisted on continuing ...page 42.
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:31 PMWOW WOW WOW !!!!!!!
Page 44
Read why david said "interesting" when examoning the green slimy substance on the holographic control panel !!!!!
Svanya
AdminPraetorianOct-15-2013 4:32 PM@oduodu;
[i]"I don't care if its canon or not" ,"Chris bigdave gavin svanya where are you guys ????"-oduodu[/i]
Yep yep, it's canon and real. That's the script, it was posted here on site almost a year ago--> [url=http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/news/395]UPDATE: Damon Lindelof Confirms 'Paradise' Script is Official[/url]. I am glad you are enjoying it!!! Hehehe!
[i]"To all you prometheus haters go - take this and assimilate - lindelof said from the start that there was answers to all the mysterious - and this prooves it - there is much more to this."-oduodu[/i]
To be fair 99% of the people who didn't like the movie didn't have issues with the story but rather it's execution. :P
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:42 PMSvanya
Ok
Then why all the questions regarding the mysteries ???? And questions regarding the behaviour of the crew ???
This script was never once mentioned as answers to those questions ???
Surely this tells us a great many things about why things happened the way they did . I guess I just never read the posts where people tells of this script and the answers to the many of the questions.
Could you perhaps give me the link to that script posted ???
I never once read anywhere any comment using this script as answers to the questions so many prometheus haters raved on about.
Oh well I am glad to be wrong .
Svanya
AdminPraetorianOct-15-2013 4:49 PM"Then why all the questions regarding the mysteries ???? And questions regarding the behaviour of the crew ???"-oduodu
@oduodu; The reason they ask is because the answers were not filmed....
Could you perhaps give me the link to that script posted ???-odoudou
I did link it.. Also, people talked pretty much non stop about it for weeks, like we always say, do a search because everything has already been covered/talked about/debated, we are not joking when we say do a search LOL!!! XD
oduodu
MemberXenomorphOct-15-2013 4:52 PMWell then ......a lot of the mysteries explained then. The reason why I never read that was because I thought it was altenate draft that was very close to spaihts original draft draft - this is basically the darft of an extended cut .
Well thank you svanya
That explains a lot
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