Prometheus 2 plot, possible just speculation not FACT

BigDave
MemberDeaconApril 05, 201535411 Views188 RepliesAs i mentioned on THANATOS_CONTAGION post, i had a conversation with someone i know, who said they had spoken to someone who has some idea of what Prometheus 2 is about...
I can only take these as pure Speculation but this person did 6 months ago or near enough, say that they also seen some concept work for the movie....
Anyway here are the things this person was hinting at, and by no means can we take these as FACT in any shape or form, but may be interesting to discus these points if they are some area the movie could go....
1) The Movie will have 3 Plot Elements, and Shaw and Davids mission to find the Engineers Homeworld is just one of those.
2) The Engineers are not God or our creators, but a servant race for some other purpose. So merely as David is to Mankind.
3) Shaw and David will not be getting the Answers they want, what they find is truely Horrifying Agenda. Revalations that seperate even futher the original answers Shaw thought they would find when they got to LV 223 in the first movie.
4) The Movie will give us more of a link between LV 223 and LV 426, and it will provide some answers to the Alien fans but it wont be a Alien based movie.
I guess the fanboys fix will come from Alien 5
5) There will be two Monsters One new, both will have loose connection to the Xeno but they will be different.
6) There will be some connection between Engineers and Prometheus Myth but this is loosely.... related to the Fire.
7) The movie will not be based largely on Shaw and David shenanigans aboard the Juggernaught but there will be some screen time devoted to Shaw and David during the trip but not actually interacting as such on the ship. As Shaw will be incapacitated for the most part.
8) Prometheus was not the FIRST company mission to the Zeta 2 system.
9) The Black Goo is not quite how its shown in the movie, they are going the route that it is the Origin of Life, the Blood of Life and all creation. And kind of like from the Tree of Life and Forbiden Fruit.
Pretty much i guess how the Comic Books Fire and Stone was going.
10) If we are expecting a evolution and more depth to the Ancient Aliens connection, this wont be the case but we could see a slight connection as far as some Ancient God connections. As far as Hierarchy and Order of creation.
They kinda said like how David is part of that Hierarchy.
11) David wishes to play God himself and continue the order of Hierarchy.
12) They are following some ideas from Star Beast as far as connection between the said Hierarchy of creation seen in the movies. This could be regards to Engineer connection to their purpose. And connection to Sacrifices.
13) The movie plot has kind of a Matrix and Blade Runner theme to the Agenda of the creators. And Engineers.
14) The movie will have larger cast than Prometheus and so not a small Cast as we may have thought or been led to i.e Shaw and David on a ship to find a God.
15) The comic books followed LV 223 and 426 and while the events show what could happen, the comics are to be considered a alternative. But underlying themes could be explored.
Updated *** as forgot at time of writting this.
17*) There could be some ideas and things that they never got round to include from Prometheus that could be done in Prometheus 2
They said kind of like how AVPR shows what happens to a Face Hugged Predator to create Pred-Alien.... this event is not canon to Alien Franchise, but it is accurate as far as a what if Predators was part of the cannon and got impregnated with Xeno Embryo
The above is kina what was said, it may changed bit word for word as i trying to remeber every detail...
The Person did say to me months before that some Concept work seemed to show like Clones of Babies with tubes and it had a Matrix look as far as how Mankind is kept in Stasis and the Matrix and Alien Resurrection clones and the 6th day Clones Scenes....
Another showed a very Giger looking Facility with a Bio-Mechanical Humanoid connected to it, in a simular fasion to how the Deacon Mural looked in Prometheus.
Again is any of this true...? I cant be sure, but i take it as a pinch of salt, and i expect as months go on we shall see more hersay rumours etc...
LOL anyone remember the early Prometheus screening that was actually nothing like what the movie was... so just assumption and made up based on maybe Scenes shown from Trailers...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
" Power Corupts and can lead to destruction and what we was seeing was in a way similar to stealing of Fire by Prometheus and the Eating of the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge etc"
cant seem to edit but i forget to add, what they said was not destuction so you have bare in mind some stuff i may not relay it word for word.... anyway they said like regard to stealing of Fire and Forbiden Fruit.... that play with Fire and you may get Burnt and that Eating of Tainted Fruit has consequences and as in both related to the use of forbiden knowledge leads to Corruption and disasterous consequences (no destruction sorry) but i guess it can imply the same thing...
So yeah... if these leaks are all BS! they are interesting none the least... but they claim they are Legit but off course certain things can be changed and tinkered with from Final Draft to Shooting Script.... so be interesting to see....
But when i look at certain things said back in March 2015 they are now starting to add up to comments Ridley is comming out with as of late..... everything regarding Prometheus not bieng the first time Mankind had been in that system from Alien/Prometheus.... got me thinking did they send a earlier mission or a probe, but would that technically count... Mankind has not been on Mars.. or past the Moon... but our Probes and Crafts (Voyager 1+2) Have so is that in a way that Mankind has explored or been to futher places than Earth?
But now looking at Ridleys comments........ as of this month.... about how Humans may not only be limited to Earth, and how he said before the Scene at the start does not have to be Earth at all........ then who knows.. maybe Mankind being on LV 223 say before year 2093 could be that what if Mankind was created someplace else and then seeded on Earth.... was we created on LV 223? that would be like WOW! what a cool idea..... or could it go in way of Engineers comming to Earth over the past and taking some Humans to LV 223, for experiments? We just dont know..
But i am now thinking the leak i got, of Prometheus was not Mankinds first visit to the Zeta 2 system as got me now thinking its actually physically that Humans have been there before.... and maybe as in thousands of years before...
Like the information about TWO MONSTERS.... Ridley backed that up later by saying there will be a New Fresher form of the Original Monster.... this source also said back in March that we shall see more than One Species and the movie has a Larger Cast.... and well Ridleys new comments seem to be pointing at the Engineers and who ever is above them playing a role in Creation Across more than Earth, as in Creation is vast.... and he said there could be Millions of Earth like Planets.....
So i am very excited as Ridley is exploring a Very Bold and Vast.... direction with this movie... and so yes some things comming to light are adding up with what was said to me in April from someone who had this information at the end of March..
Bring on 2017 ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
One of the writers of the last movie said at a meet and greet a few years ago that the Engineers were based off the Biblical Nephilim.Also said that the ones who created them were very much still around in the Universe,didn't add anymore to that comment.With Scott bringing up the poem "Paradise Lost" it's pretty simple to see what elements the next movie will have.
Yes as i replied in your other post... we cant rule out a Nephilim connection..... Ridley However keeps refering to the Engineers as Fallen Angels.... but there is no reason that they cant be Nephilim..... i think loosley they could be connecting to the Bible in a Metathoricall way and not Literal
Also i feel they are more loosley connecting to Paradise Lost Version of Events as opposed to those in the Bible....
When i was trying to figure out the Movie then i looked at what was similar to all Ancient Cultures and Religon and especially the Bible and Greek as those are the ones that are linked to in a Metathoricall way in the movie..
When i think of that... i was then always drawn to the Annunaki Tale as bieng the one that connects those two... this Tale is also the Oldest Recorded of Gods and Mankind and Creation and its Fable has many things that we could see the Bible and Greek Mythos as being based off...
And yes some refer to the Annunaki as Nephilim.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Here is a update that i got today... apparently..
As far as Ripley goes and the source i have, they wont spill no beans but said as far as they was aware Ripley does not feature at all in the next movie, and the movie was planned over 3 parts and one part would deal with loosely LV 426 and how the company knew more or less what was there on LV 426 before re-routing the Nostromo but nothing about Ripley being involved in the next movies time line...
They also said Shaw and David will be off to near the centre of the Galaxy over 3500 parsecs they said, not Light Years if this is the case that would take Prometheus over 600 years.. we have to assume the Engineers Ships are faster but how faster?
The person wont release no info.... not any more but said that come Novermber stuff will become more apparent that adds up to what they was saying....
Either this person has been making it up.... or not read the entire draft, or that indeed Ripley wont be in Alien:Paradise Lost.... or indeed maybe they could have re-written the draft they had finished in October 2014?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
This is probably a long stretch but what if the Engineers had brought early human ancestors to 223, 1000s of yrs before, as in the early civilizations of man to experiment on them. And maybe something went badly wrong there to do with the outbreak.
Well one theory i had was that if we look at the Sacrifical Scene.... it does not show Mankind being created but either the Start of Building Blocks of Life.... or more likely (because the world had plant life) the Catalyst that caused basic Life to Evolve into complex... Ridley also said this scene does not have to be Earth....
Which gets me thinking what is the purpose of the Star Maps? Coinsidence i think not, a Trap? doubtful a Invitation... maybe its what Shaw thought but she was wrong, but maybe it was to start with before we had upset the Engineers... was LV 223 Paradise? a Place mankind can go to once we are ready?
Thats one theory.... another is just as Ridleys clues... The Engineers are Gardners he said.. so they are Genetic Gardners... Earth is their Garden... so what is LV 223? Every Good keen Gardener has a Nursery a Green House if you would where they nurture new plants before they plant them in the Garden..
This is what i thought LV 223 was... it was a Greenhouse for our Engineers, where they came and took life from Earth to LV 223 to then futher Evolve them and then plant the results back on Earth... a way to Qaurantine new experiments and make sure they are right before they plant them in the Garden (Earth)..
Ridley said the Engineers had been back over thousands of years to Evolve Mankind... not just Genetically but also Technologically this fits perfectly with the Ancient Alien Aspect and Star Maps... and yes Alien Abductions lol
The Star Map was to show us where Mankind was created...(evolved) and not where the Engineers came from!
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Hopping to get some news.... Saturday maybe tomorrow... asked few questions to be passed on and mainly about if the movie will shed light on Xeno and Alien now its changed name and Ridley said they comming in from the back end etc...
keep you posted...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Again, the Ringworld angle. Everything your friend-of-friend listed could be interpreted as a plot synopsis of the Ringworld series.... Engineers, Pak Children, Pak Breeders, Pak Protectors, Tree-of-Life virus, Gouls, Vampires.... it's all right there, really.
I have had bit information about the Alien links, after the Source was asked about the movie being a Alien movie, and here is what was said.
Unless Ridley has made changes to the Plot since working on The Martian the movie would not be a direct Alien movie, there will be clues to the Xeno but they are similar to Prometheus only more detailed and less ambigious, the movie was set to explore a bigger picture but there would be loose connections but they would be done in the same way as Promethues just more detailed and more Alien-y looking but will not explain the Xeno completely and that a 3rd movie would touch upon that more and be more like Spaights draft as far as Xeno Connections.
They did however as far as the supposed ideas October-March said the following.
1) The Engineers did not create the Xeno as per say....
2) Prometheus has the Answers but you have to look for them, and Part 2 will cover similar things but less ambigious.
3) The Experiments on LV-223 play a part on the creation of the things we see in Alien but is not the place it all started from.
4) Humans play a role in the DNA of the Xeno. Not Engineers.
5) The Hierarchy above the Engineers created the Engineers and the Origins of the Xeno DNA Biology.
6) The whole Agenda for which and includes the Engineers was similar theme behind the Star Beast Original idea, and relates to Sacrifices. They said that Alien used some stuff from Star Beast, Prometheus other stuff not used in Alien and the next movie would use and expand on yet other elements that never made it into other movies.
7) The Biology is a weaponized biological warefare.
8) Some connections of this Biological Warefare, backfired and it can loosely be connected to Paradise Lost as in Serpents and Dragons. And that reading these in Paradise Lost then looking at the clues in Prometheus sheds more light.
9) The Xenomorph is not God or connected but worshiped for freedome from Bondage.
10) Xeno DNA will be seen in the movie, but asfar as DNA end connections to the Xeno Bio-Tech, but not as in Xeno itself.
They finally said all these would be loose, but the real connections we will see would be via the Two Monsters that we shall see in the movie, these will have more Xeno look to them than the ones in Prometheus but they will still be different to the Aliens from the Franchises.
Oh they was asked about the Mission to LV 223, and they said yes there is a ship with a crew but they cant say what its purpose is but that this is not the only Humans in the movie or other beings, and to think of it as similar to Nostromo mission, in more than a few ways but it plays a big part in the plot and is one 3rd of the Movies Plot....
But that a 3rd movie would cover more of the mysteries of that System but they can not go into details..... the details about the Xeno connections they said are points that will be covered vaguley. but the Human involvement in it all is one of the main Plot devices that will be revealed.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
I maybe shooting myself in the foot with this information and i wont post detailed one unless asked, i have PM a few about it however...
But the source has informed me that David will be going to a place related to the Engineers, related is not the same as Paradise is it? They said while our Engineers are not God, that those above the Engineers are not God or the top of the Hierarchy either.....
They said back in March and i think i covered it on here in April if not i PM people then, about concept works of Nebula that seemed to be the Eagle Nebula and something about the Sagittarius Arm and location that is near the Galactic Centre of the Galaxy well between Earth and the Centre.....
But information i had 2 days ago, have teased maybe they dont go to Paradise in the next movie. at least not at first because they said that they are going to a place related to the Engineers..... and this would be close to the Pilars of Creation..... then they said that Paradise is a outpost in our Galaxy and not the Home of God... this indicates the Scope is bigger than our Galaxy and so Paradise is merely a Outpost in our Galaxy rather than the Throne of GOD!
They released information about the supposed location at the time of Fall 2014 of Paradise and its a constellation located near the celestial equator and so i may in may had misinterpreted Centre of Galaxy as such.
I have been told the name.... but it relates to Serpents and Gods...... and it plays a big role in Paradise Lost Poem....
I was given the name of the System.... well Constelation and doing a Google Search has thrown up some interesting results and yes it could fit in with Prometheus that we have seen, and that Myth and many Mythos and Paradise Lost....
I then found a passage in the Book about this System... Serpentarius
Seems to fit well.... not sure if they are hinting at this place being where they find God, but certainly where they will find out the so called beginings of where these Engineers started to make that Bio-Mechanical Biological Warefare that Ridley was on about in his latest comments....
Oh well i dont think the source will release any more information so here it is
Ophiuchus
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Again this is all to be taken with a pinch of salt....
Looking into that system and how it connects to the Bible, Greek, Babylonian Chinese, Sumarian and Paradise Lost well it is refered to in all of those as having sightly different themes but when you connect them all, then indeed it adds to what we was trying to be Shown in Prometheus..... There is connection between this Constilation and Serpent, and Eagle as in as if both are interchangeable, a common theme occurs as in Serpents being sent as Punishment, and Eagle as Punishment for Stolen Fire.... the Ophiuchus has connections to being the Forbiden Fruit in the Garden of Eden... even some information about links to Paradise and Ophiuchus.
Its also linked to Medusa and how she has Blood that can destroy anc give life, and Mythos in a number of cultures including Babylonian and Greek relating to Ophiuchus as both forbiden knowledge and gift of Immortality
This person never mentioned none of that, only name of Ophiuchus Constilation being important as far as the Plot and connection to Paradise Lost and whats going on, and from the vague comments they could be pointing to this being Location of Paradise, or the Location of the other place related to the Engineers Agenda that David goes to.
So yeah very interesting.... If its TRUE that is
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Some more digging.... this constellation is supposed to have seen within it two Super Black Holes Merging (ngc-6240)
Certainly looks like a Nebula, which is what the source said they saw as concept work that had Nebula in the background of a Engineer Ship....
Another interesting thing is they said back then that Paradise was located between Earth and the Centre of the Galaxy, which with the latest information on Ophuichus which is at the Galactic Equator i thought had i got that mixed up?
But looking into Ophuichus there is indeed a SuperNova that went off in that Constellation this Super Nova is located 13,000 LY from Earth.... which is funny enough half the distance of Earth to the Centre of the Milky Way which is 26'000 LY
Is all of this coincidence? Ridley was talking about bigger things, and hinting at the creation of Worlds and not just life on them, and to see in that Constellation the merging of Two Starburst Galaxies which is a Galaxy undergoing an exceptionally high rate of Star Formation..... (Creation) and Super Nova too thats (Destruction) goes hand in hand with "Sometimes to Create one must first Destroy"
Ophuichus also has connection to a Scorpion Monster... i always felt the Xeno was more related to a Scorpion as far as its Exo-Skeleton Look...... sometimes Scorpion and Serpent go hand in hand... as does Serpent and Dragon.
Ophuichus is also considered the 13th Zodiac Sign, 13 is a number considered to be Bad Luck, there are connections that the Garden of Eden had 12 Main Fruit one for each month that could be eaten, and one Fruit that could not be Eaten.... the Forbiden Fruit i.e 13th Fruit. That is connected to the Serpent and Ophuichus
Does this Star Constellation thus tick a lot of boxes with themes that we was being shown in Prometheus and clues maybe Ridley had been saying about the next movie? or just purely coinsidence
If this source has been making stuff up, he surely has a knack of stuff that ticks boxes....
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
While i am at it as they had told me back in March about the New Monsters which i was not allowed to go into detail here...
I have given weeks ago this information to a few people on here via PM... but i wil roughly go on to say the one Monster is from a NEW EVENT i.e not prior to Prometheus and it is to be based loosely off Gigers Original Necrominicon 4 which was also the idea for Spaights Ultramorph so the idea is to resurect that idea and as they say to make a fresher take on the Giger Work that inspired the Alien..... but they also want to make it well more see through like a Jelly Fish than the Bio-Mechanical Look of the Alien Xeno and indeed those from Aliens and onwards....
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
@BigDave I find it really interesting that they want to make it translucent. I hate Jellyfish. Thanks for the info :)
Yeah hopefully not transparant as in a Jelly Fish.... but when we look at some Prometheus concept work, they had a translucent look to them Here is a Fifield Concept
There are a few others that have similar look....
Doing some research they planned to have the Alien Xeno Translucent too here is a unused suit that they never used as the effect just did not look right, maybe with new Technology and Special Effects this could be pulled off nowadays.
I also came across this peice of Concept work which may be from Spaights Ultramorph...
I certainly like this image, it has the Xeno look to it, yet its different and if they tried to make this but sort of transparent and more lighter colour such as in the Fifield Concept which is what they was looking to do in Spaights Draft, as opposed to the Dark look of the Alien from the Franchise especially Aliens version and Alien Resurection.
Then i think this would be interesting... the source did say there was a number of ideas and things they had worked on for Prometheus that they never ended up using that would be re-done and used for the new Movie and indeed the Ultramorph is one of those unused concepts and this was based off the Necromonicon 4 Artwork by HR Giger that the Xeno was based off, but wether this is something they are using who knows.
So when Ridley said fresher version of the Original Alien, maybe he meant the Artwork that inspired it?
Who knows but a design thats like the last image above or similar i think would be pretty Amazing.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Very intresting ideas on where promethues is going, The first one was slightly tied in with the alien movies but if there looking to find where everything comes from then my personally opinion is that there will be nothing related to anything "Alien". It proberly will be more of a Religious vs Science theme. Dont know ehat to make of a sequel but Lets wait and watch.
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Thanks Big Dave, interesting read.
The beuaty of what they have told you is that it can lead in multiple directions. Couple of comments re some of your material.
1. Another ship makes sense, hard to see a man like Wayland not having a back up plan if things go wrong, would not be surprised if he is still alive and what we saw was a clone/android. Are we sure everyone other than Shaw and David died?
2. Some kind of rebellion by the engineers or their masters makes some sense. If they were so pissed off with us why did they not relaunch the mission to wipe us out? Maybe they no longer exist/have the capability?
3. Why do they hate us, has to be a pivotal point of the sequel. Are we just brood stock, an experiment or are they pissed that we can recreate and they cannot? Have they tried to re-engineer the goo to enable them to re-produce only to create the alien strain?
4. Were the engineers that seeded man kind acting out of rebellion to create life without 'god' knowing and when he did find out he sent soliders to destroy us?
5. Why did the mission to wipe us out go wrong? Maybe that is the opening scene for Paradise lost?
For me it will be interesting to see whether religeon plays a part as it will be a gutsy move and there are strong hints it will. Ridley does seem to have an interest in religeon as seen in the Exodus film. I can see why he left it out so far, once way to alienate a part of the potential audience that the studio heads would not like.
Finally, as a prediction, I reckon we will find David seeing the alien strain/goo as the key to his kind re-producing and that David will be shown to be in charge of the Weyland corporation hence the company knowing about the aliens in the original movie and diverting the ship.
I would love to see Ridley incorporate more of Giger's artistic ideas into the sequel. Maybe the engineers are cold hearted scientists who love to play around with the goo to create new things. They don't have the ability to empathize. They don't have human emotions. They may look at us as lab rats.
I think they should give more information on what was said between David, Weyland, and the Engineer. I'd also like to see David divulge more info on what he learned from the symbols and writing. He knows a lot more than he lets on. Given that David told Shaw that they were setting out to create, but first had to destroy, it would be nice to know what David knows about that. Maybe that will be answered in the sequel.
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Ok here is a recap of what i was told in March and was about last week in March sometime around 27th 2015 unless stated otherwise or as a update....
Production Information
1) They had finished a Final Draft as of October 2014.
2) The movie was scheduled to Wrap up main Shooting in March 2016 but this could have been a misinterpretation but March was signifcant as far as Shooting, so it was either Wrap Up March 2016 which i think is what was said but it could have meant Shooting to start March 2016.
3) They had started fleshing out ideas of how they want the Draft Story to be looking as far as visuals and some doodles had been worked on around the Fall of 2014 and some concept work had been worked on in February 2015
4) Main Production should begin in detail around Fall 2015 (hints some could begin before then). And Ridley will be working with a number of Production Team who worked on Prometheus.
5) The Movie would require and have a LARGER Cast than Prometheus, emphasis on Larger (but never said how much Larger).
6) The Movie would have a 50% Larger Budget than Prometheus but Fox would be more flexible with certain Scenes if they would go over Budget some what... for example a few Shots was never done that was intended for Prometheus due to Budget... Ridley would be allowed a bit more slack on the Budget Strings.
7) Production and Shooting had been held up because Ridley and other Cast Members had Commitments, mainly Ridley with offer to do The Martian, while other Cast Members for Prometheus 2 are tied up. And that the movie has since then gone through a few changes of ideas as Ridley who is someone spontaneous and can after Drafts was done, come up with few tweeks and changes. And a few things had been slightly changed since then but as of March it was pretty much similar to the Final Draft they had in October.
8) Movie Release date was not mentioned but they assumed we would be looking at a March 2017
Update around June 2015 they said after Ridley had confirmed after lack of news and concerns the movie was on Hold, Ridley said the movie will be his next and shooting to start in the New Year 2016 (January) that its likely expected the release date would now be March 2017 to May 2017. But definately between Spring and Summer 2017
9) Update August In the Process of September to December 2014 ideas about the Plot and Draft had been fleshed out as far as how they want things to look and so then Concept work started at the end of the year but also carried on early 2015 but its a work in progress as not much time is dedicated due to Ridleys other Projects.
10) Casting was not yet done by March 2015 but they would have some ideas who to draft in and yes we all know Rappace and Fassbender are scheduled but off course they have to work around those Actors and others they want to sign up.. Work Schedules
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Plot Information
11) The Movie will have 3 Plot Elements, and Shaw and Davids mission to find the Engineers Homeworld is just one of those.
12) Shaw and David will not be getting the Answers they want, what they find is truely Horrifying Agenda. Revalations that seperate even futher the original answers Shaw thought they would find when they got to LV 223 in the first movie.
13) The movie will not be based largely on Shaw and David shenanigans aboard the Juggernaught but there will be some screen time devoted to Shaw and David during the trip but not actually interacting as such on the ship. As Shaw will be incapacitated for the most part.
They re-informed be in May, as the above was my interpretation, but the Shaw and Davids trip to find the Engineers would only play a small part, Shaw would be incapacitated for most of the movie and play small part. We wont see much time devoted to them interacting on the journey but there would be some time dedicated to interaction between the two and how things go, but they cant say no more about this (and how he gets back together) and this is one thing i was told not to mention.
14) The Engineers are not God or our creators, but a servant race for some other purpose. So merely as David is to Mankind.
15) And the Engineers are not the Top of the Hierarchy of creation, they serve a Higher Power/Force.
16) The movie will cover Multiple Biengs, and Humans are not the only creations of the Engineers. And they would show more then ONE Lifeform they encounter! now i assume this means not David, or Xenos or related but maybe Humans, Engineers and another Race? They was vague however.
17) The movie would show us who is above the Engineers in the Hierarchy but these beings are not God, hinting that there is more than one layer above the Engineers in the Hierarchy.
18) The order of Creation/Hierarchy does not Start with the Engineers or end with David 8.
19) David wishes to Play God himself, and continue the order of Hierarchy (May Update) He is free and sees Engineers as less superior to himself. But he has sympathy as the Engineers are pretty much as David was before Freedom.
20) The movie would focus on Order of Creation/Hierarchy and Rebelion against Hierarchy/Creator on multiple levels and that Rebelion leads to disaster and punishment. Updated in Summer with this.
They added that the theme of Father and Son and Son growing to be and see themselves as equal or greater than there Father and challenge for dominance and so Rebelion as a theme will be explored and Prometheus shows us the seeds of that within the movie.... and we see this in Ancient Culture and Religon right from the Bible and Lucifers Rebelion to overthrow God and Gods fear of this and War and casting Satan out of Heaven... and with the Greek Mythos we see this on Multiple Levels, of Father Son, Fear of Betrayal, Rebelion and being overthrown that results in drastic measures as we see, for example they said how Cronus ate his Own Children but Zues was replaced with a Stone... etc
21) If we are expecting a evolution and more depth to the Ancient Aliens connection, this wont be the case but we could see a slight connection as far as some Ancient God connections. As far as Hierarchy and Order of creation.
They kinda said like how David is part of that Hierarchy.
21) There will be some connection between Engineers and Prometheus Myth but this is loosely.... related to the Fire, the movie would futher explore loosely connection between Forbiden Knowledge and Power and in the wrong hands how it can lead to disasterous consequences and punishment.
22) The Black Goo is not quite how its shown in the movie, they are going the route that it is the Origin of Life, the Blood of Life and all creation. And kind of like from the Tree of Life and Forbiden Fruit. And play with Fire and you get Burnt.
Update Summer... The Goo is actually a Parasitic Micro Organism, similar to some kinds of Algae, it also is a Catalyst for creating and manipulating Life. It acts like a Virus. But is also a Forbiden Tool used for creation and destruction.
23) The comic books followed LV 223 and 426 and while the events show what could happen, the comics are to be considered a alternative. But underlying themes could be explored. (think basically how the Goo works).
24) The Movie will give us more of a link between LV 223 and LV 426, and it will provide some answers to the Alien fans but it wont be a Alien based movie. These Clues will be vague but not as ambigious as Prometheus.
Fans hopping to hear the Space Jockey Story and for the Space Jockey to be something Alien. Will be disapointed as their will be clues but we wont get to see the actual Space Jockey mission, crash and how those Eggs got on that ship... There would be more clues to some connection between the LV 223 and LV 426 goings on that would show us how they are connected however.. but yes the Space Jockey is a Humanoid in a Space Suit.
25) Prometheus was not the FIRST company mission to the Zeta 2 system. Updated Summer the person confirmed and so i misinterpreted that Promethus was not the first time Mankind had been in the System (LV-223/LV-426) but they wont go into detail.
26) There could be some ideas and things that they never got round to include from Prometheus that could be done in Prometheus 2 (these could be from the drafts and ideas they had when working on the idea behind Prometheus).
27) They are following some ideas from Star Beast as far as connection between the said Hierarchy of creation seen in the movies. This could be regards to Engineer connection to their purpose. And connection to Sacrifices. And Ritual Aspect.
28) There will be two Monsters One new, both will have loose connection to the Xeno but they will be different. I was given more detail and told not to mention it but i did a few months ago, and One Monster will be from a new Event within the next movie. i.e not a event prior to the end of Prometheus. And this Monster would in part be created at the Hands of David or a event caused through his actions... This Monster will be based off the Original Alien Concept idea of HR Giger that inspired the Xeno design, they had planned to use similar design in earlier drafts and concept work for Prometheus.. The Ultramorph and thus the New Monster will be based off the Necromon 4 Giger Work. It would also appear to be see through like a Jelly Fish to a degree as opposed to Bio-Mechanical like the Xeno in Alien was.
29) The movie plot has kind of a Matrix and Blade Runner theme to the Agenda of the creators. And Engineers. It is a Big Bold Plot, that has loose themes we can draw connections to the above movies...
updated stuff i was told that the person knew when i was first Told but they did not pass on, so newer information i got around end of Summer. Following the Hell on Earth Rumours..
30) They said the movie would not be Hell on Earth, and the Working Title is Prometheus: Paradise Lost, but they was also considering Prometheus: Pandemonium or Dark Paradise and its likely the Prometheus prefix would be dropped but it is in no Way Hell on Earth or based on Earth.
The move will be based over 3 Parts.... which at the time i assumed Promethues Parts 1-3
31) There will not be a Army of Davids, but they can say nothing more.. only David features mainly in the movie.
32) Shaw does not Technically Die, but they can not go into any details.
33) We shall see David head towards a Planet connected to the Engineers...
34) The movie has a very Bold Plot, they are trying to distance the Engineers and Earth and all the Ancient Culture and Gods links as far as Religons i.e Gods created Earth and all thats on Earth connection, they wish to tone that down, well actually going for the route that Earth is not Important we are not the Centre of the Universe as in Ancient Cultures and Myths including Bible and Greek Myths etc..... but we can draw lose connections between how Mankind came to come up with such stories and connection to the Engineers. They said the movie is not about Mankinds creation by Godlike biengs in our Galaxy never mind Solar System but something more broader. And loosely connect to things in the Bible, but in a very BOLD WAY.
if we look at Prometheus and God Connection, then yes we are talking about God and the Garden of Eden, Heaven and Hel, Rebelion and Punishment but only loosely.
35) They also said that Paradise is not the Engineers Homeworld as such... just the focal point of the Engineers and the Hierarchy in regards to our Galaxy and it stands between the Galactic Centre and Earth.... and so is very far away. They said the idea is to drop hints that the Engineer came from Paradise but this place is not where Creation is based from....
The Plot is going for greater Scale than our Galaxy alone the Plot is not limited to the God/Creation as per Bible and other Ancient Cultures... as back then thousands of years ago most cultures did not know about the Galaxy and its size.... but this person and i agree seems to read into the information given to them, that you know what... it goes futher than these Engineers being from some place in our Galaxy.. they could be touching upon more than our Galaxy but the Universe in General.... In which case whoever the Higher Biengs could be... it could be that they are not unique to our Galaxy and so Paradise could be just the Homeworld in our Galaxy but maybe not the only Headquarters.
36) The Hammerpedes wont feature, they only have limited life Span just as the Xenomorph does, but they could procreate like the Xeno does. But those unfortunate to go to LV 223 are not going to be Alone. This is where one of the Two Main monsters will be shown to Originate from. But does not have to mean a event after the events of Prometheus. They informed me not mention this detail but we shall see seeds of DNA from the First Movie, but they wont say if this is from a event connected to LV-223/LV-426 and what time frame, just that it would connect some clues towards the goings on in that system.
The Xenomorph wont be shown but clues like we saw in the movie would be expanded upon but they are a combination of two Organisms DNA well the Origins are and one strand of DNA is Engineers. However they say that Mankind plays a greater Role in the Xenomorph Origins but they wont devulge information, but person i know who spoke to the source says they seemed very hyped about a Human Connection. and that Humans play a role in the next movie but they wont release no information. But its a Bigger part of the Plot.
September Updates....
37) They are loosley connecting to Paradise Lost Version of Events as opposed to those in the Bible.... but also connections loosley with Greek Mythos and so its not Literally but Metathorically connecting to those tales.
38) The Location of Paradise, or where the events shall mainly be shown are within the Ophiuchus Constellation, they did not specify where but that it would be a Place within that Constellation that would be the seat of the GODs within our Galaxy. I cant quite remember what they was saying but i vaguely remember that it is a place that is about either 3500 parsecs or 600? one of the Two and located within Ophiuchus and near by the Sagittarius Arm of the Galaxy half way between Earth and the Galactic Centre.
I think thats the information, i may have missed some but this information was given to me end of March 2015 for most of it, some i had to keep to myself as i knew bit more than i posted, but after i was given more information over the summer, and especially September i decided October to go into more detail... some stuff i may have forgot but i am sure i had spoke about it within topics i had made on here....
THE SOURCE claims that the information i had been given from March to September was correct as of March 2015 and that some changes had been made only slighlty to the October Draft... but that as Fall 2015 more information would come out that would validate what they had passed to me... i had mentioned that as far back as April that the source said come Fall and Especially November as this is when More Information would start to come out finally regarding the Movie....
which actually did.....
They did say in end September/ start October that as far as the draft October 2014 Ripley was not connected to the movie, but that you cant rule out Changes to the Drafts happening as months go by and especially in relation to Changes that had to be made as far as Blomkamps Movie.
Then 6 weeks after i was told this we got anouncements of Logan re-working the Draft and not one but Two Name Changes....
The source i dont think will release any more information but i think it have covered what they said, i may have sent more detail to 3 Members on the Forum 3 months back as so they can back up these rumours in detail as the Source said November and onwards that stuff would come out that would back up what they had said.... so i had few members i sent information to, instead of posting it on here... but i had in October posted a few of these bits of information that i was told not to... OPPS!
So again take with Pinch of Salt, and Check posts on Topic from April until September, periods before Ridley started to officially talk more about the movie in detail and things since then are adding upto what i was told some 3-5 months prior to Official News..
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