Prometheus 2 plot, possible just speculation not FACT

No i will tackle the Bottom Image, and again its all interpretation of a Ambigious Mural with Cloud like Forms... And so i cant clearly make out Christ etc... so i will pass on this one.. no disrespect.

But there is a theme a like Lader of something going on, but what?  We do see the Face Huggers and Adult Xeno/Deacon Creature... maybe we need to compare it to the Alien Mural that was never used..

 

Again some parts are very Ambigious can we make a connection?

The shape around the outside is like the Derelict and maybe we can connect this to the outer frame of the Door/Arch way to the Prometheus Mural.... in the Alien Mural its maybe hinted that the Derelict Type object is made from a Xeno, it shares the same DNA and the Egg is somehow created by this Object.... a idea that Giger actually had as his idea was the Egg Silo that became Cargo Hold had like Pregnant looking Bio-Mechanical Bellies that actually Gave Birth to the Eggs.

The rest of the Alien Mural shows us Egg containing Face Huger next down the lader of events, the same area in the Prometheus Mural has a shape that can be interpreted in many ways, it can be some kind of Egg, or some kind of Crown.. like the Upper Carapace of a Queen Xeno? But again its so ambigious, but does it lead to the Deacon which is next on that Lader?

Who knows... as the area the Deaon is at in the Mural is where the opening of a Egg by a Space Suited Being (similar to Space Jockey) and allowing another of its kind to be Face Hugged in some Ritual Sacrifice... so the only really link i could make between both is A SACRIFICE.... the Deacon is in a Sacrifical pose... 

The 3rd part/layer of the Alien Mural is the Chest Buster Scene....  The same area in the Prometheus one is very vague and hard to work out, its where you saw the Winged Angelic Creature... but to either side of it is the Face Hugger Scenes..

Maybe the Murals are in a different Order....  as the 3rd layer in the Prometheus could depict the 2nd layer in the Alien and so the 3rd layer in Alien (Chest Buster) could match the Deacon the 2nd layer in Prometheus.... so the Deacon is the result of those Face Hugers?

Well there are Two different kinds... that are Gigers unused concepts..

Note same Balde Headed Humanoid and the Suit looks a lot like the Engineers Presure Suits and so the Answers have been their all along in the unused Concepts.....

It could be the Engineers had created various Face Hugers, or they came across something and they as Genetic Engineers, was interested in something they never created and so they then experimented on this to create various kinds of Face Huger.... Spaights draft there was 8 different kinds of Cargo related to the Xeno DNA.

But what can this mean.... does the Prometheus Mural show us the Deacon being something that they re-engineered to create the various Face Huger and Eventually the Xeno?  Or does it show that something led to the various types of Face Huger in the Persuit for finding something Perfect and that was the Deacon in the Mural a Project of Evolution...?

Its all so Ambigious we cant really be sure... but there is a connection....

My interpretation was the Deacon was something they came across either as a result of a Face Huger, or result of re-engineer Face Hugers until they hit the Jackpot with a Final Form they was happy with PERFECTION... The Mural Deacon... either way the Engineers on LV-223 had regarded this as Perfection.... they saw that its DNA was more Pure and Evolved and more Perfection than Engineers DNA.

And this they worshiped it for its Purity and Perfect Form, the Ultimate Evolution maybe attained from something they DID NOT CREATE.... maybe it gave the Engineers a way to Give Birth to New Life... if they can not breed like we can....

Regardless.... i think they used the Goo at the start of the Movie to Sacrifice these created Deacons DNA and collected the broken down Material into those Urns... as opposed to the Engineer at the start and his broken down Material just fell into the Water Fall etc...

Spaights draft the Engineer took Sacrificial Cruciform pose, before he fell into the Waterfall....  so the Deacon pose could mean it too was Sacrificed to Produce DNA Material that can be used to Evolve Life... as this Deacons DNA is seen by them as more Perfect than Engineers... (Sometimes to create one must first destroy).

If we look at Spaights Nano Scarabs which replace the Black Goo, and apply how we see it work in Spaights draft... and apply it to the Black Goo then you see we have a Goo/Scarabs that devour/break down a Sacrifice and then store and carry its DNA, that it then passes onto a Host to create a Hybrid that passes on the Sacrifices DNA and Evolves the best traits of the Host.

The Original Shot of the Altar had the Sacrifical Bowl and not a Green Crystal which could confirm such a Theory as above.

LOL Enoch333, sorry if i came across as trying to discredit your findings... im actually interested in trying to make connections and with Ancient Myths and you have some great ideas... just some of the images are so vague that its open to massive interpretation and its why i am trying to work on those that are less Ambigious... not saying your wrong at all ;)

"And what about the creature on the top? :)"

 

Bare with me... i am now about to try and answer that one lol

Yep maybe its just Art and has no real meaning.. i mean the whole peice could just be a Easter Egg Fest and not real intended as Clues, or even what we can use as Clues... but its nice to speculate and try and connect things..

The Face at the top of the Arch is interesting and you dont see it really in the movie, but you dont see much and thats the Problem, the Frescos you never saw in Full the Egg one especially the other was breaking down...

The Face well its interesting... what can it be?  Its very Giger inspired... but its unlike anything of his works really.. to a degree it has things comming off it to the side and so it kind of fits this peice only the centre face is not Humanoid..

The actual Face in the Prometheus Mural Archway, is very odd but the best thing i can come close to is a Space Jockey Helmet with its Hose/Snorkle Peice removed..

If you watch where they have the Head in the Lab, and David has to open it up to remove the Helmet... when he does so he lifts up the Snorkle part now image if this snapped off and he replaced the helmet from the front view i think we would get the closest thing to the Face at the top of the Arch in the Mural...

Is that a connection.. is that Face connected to the Bio-Mechanical Technology of the Engineers, is it to represent the the Space Jockey Helmet... is it a sign that beyond this Room (Which Holoway says its another door to another Tomb) then does it signal that the Engineers may or must remove their Helmets? or that they must put them on?  Or neither.

Its it some creature or Bio-Mechanical being that the Space Jockey suits was borrowed or stolen off?  We cant be sure but it looks connected....

But you connect it to the Fresco...

Maybe it can? But to me it looks a bit different and this image is a bit vague... some speculate this is what the Space Jockey came from... maybe its what the Engineers gained their Bio-Tech From..? it has a chance!

The head is bizare its hard to work out, but i dont see a Space Jockey Snorkle and the Eyes are hard to make out, its hard to see what and where each feature is... there are two areas that could be Eyes, or it could have no eyes... is hard to tell.

Whats interesting is where the mouth would be... i dont see Space Jockey Trunk, or a Xeno Mouth..... what i see is like Predator outer Mandibles on its Jaws.... a set of 4 such things...

But it could be a Beak and whats interesting is Face Huger D2 as you can see in the previous post has a like Beak but also a peice of skin or fold over the Beak... you can maybe see a connection with its Head and the Creature in the Mural, Infact the most likely suspect for Eyes on the Fresco Creature do look similar to Face Huger D2 yes only Shut.... maybe or maybe not its connected or inspired by.

I will also take you to Dan O'Bannons idea of the Star Beast before they used Gigers work based of his Necromonicon 4

To me this Concept is what looks the most like the Fresco Creature...

Also the Star Beast Mural Room.... Notice the Sacrifical Beast, it looks like it has a Ants head, well Jaws... but this could just as easy be Beak... or even a Mouth parts  like the above O'Bannon Star Beast idea..

Note the creatures Arms that are like sickle like, well maybe... if you look at the creature getting Chest Busted by (yep Shaws Trilobite) notice its Arms and Jaws.... then look at O'Bannons Star Beast and its what apear to be Arms.... similar?  You bet.

However the Prometheus Fresco does not had such Hands... its Hands are the same as the Xenomorphs to a degree....

Note the Egg Fresco too

While this could be a Xenomorph holding a Egg, the Egg looks Traditional... but the creature holding it could be the same in the Fresco... the Hands are similar and is its just coinsidence that both Frescos apear side by side...

To me this shows that this creature is connected to the Xeno DNA.... is it from the Xeno, or is this the Origin of the Xeno... and the Engineers did not create it.... they came across it, or it was another creation that they came across and re-engineered that led to the Xeno.... note Spaights draft sugests many different types of Xeno and Ridley came out and said the Derelict had different Cargo Holds with different kinds of Bio-Weapon.

This Creature is the Enigma the Missing Link..... or so i thought from my reading of all the clues...

"sorry if i came across as trying to discredit your findings..."

 

That why I posted them in the first place :) I very much enjoy exchanging speculations and
ideas... so discrediting them is just another part of smart dialogue... :)

Yes everything is connected and at the same time it isnt... (or we cant figure it out... there are really so much things and elements in Prometheus that it is almost impossible to know what path will they choose to follow) I personaly think that creature from the top is somehow connected to the creature on the mural with Engineer... maybe its Ridleys God!? Who knows...

 

There are Snorkles too on the relief/mural... ;)
I can see them clearly... There is even intersection of Engineers helmet...

P.S. I badly highlighted Christ... but there is
certainly man face there (maybe it isnt Christ)!!!!

intersection   intersection  

What do you think about this one :) :) :)

 

Can you see what is on the altar...? :) :)

So lets talk about the Fresco....

Very Sistine Chapel as far as God and Adam... which makes the Engineer God, looking down on Adam.... i.e Creator and Creation! Yeah can buy that the Engineers do create Life, and they are implied in having a hand in the creation of the Xeno...   The Creatures pose is very submissive and fetal.... Master and Slave/Servent?

Then the Adam and God Fresco is not the same pose... maybe it does not have to be Spot on?

Lets Forget about God and the Bible.... the movie is called Prometheus... how can that connect... remember Prometheus Punishment... having his Liver Eaten by a Eagle over and over.. well the Engineer in the Fresco has what some say looks like a Scar.. like a C-Section... has he been Eaten and Stiched up? Or Chest Busted and Stitched up? Or used to procreate something over and over and C-Sectioned like Shaw was but OVER and OVER...  Why? Maybe because the Engineers in this Scene has something special about his DNA, that he has to be used as a Host...

Can we assume if a Face Huger Embryo Grows and its Surgically Removed, like a Human C-Section that the patient suffers long Term Problems and can no longer carry a emryo/child?

Bare this in mind, and Shaws C-Section, and how she Shunned her Child, it was unwanted because it was Forced upon her and its not a Traditional Fetus/Child....

The Engineers Pose and Face does not look like Gods in the God and Adam, it looks like it is pushing away the creature... the creatue is in a Fetal Pose.... it is being Shuned away and not looked down upon in a pleased manner like God and Adam Fresco.... and we have the C-Section Scar.....

Lets look at Prometheus Myth.... he was tied to a rock and a Eagle Ate his Liver, over and over....

Lets look at the Prometheus Titan Punishment Myth Fresco..

This is the Most Famous Portrate of this Punishment.... now look at it, does it not resemble the Prometheus Movie Fresco more than the God and Adam one?

Remember Prometheus movies theme, is about the creation of Mankind, now Prometheus was the one who is responsible for creation of Man, and Teaching Mankind all it knows... Arts, how to build and make weapons, buildings (KNOWLEDGE)... and even stealing Fire from the Gods.... (Forbiden Knowledge) for this he was Punished...

Satan is Punished for persauding Adam and Eve to Eat fom the Forbiden Fruit and thus gained Knowledge..... he was thrown out of Paradise...  and Paradise Lost Poem which Ridley says has Themes that Prometheus was borrowing from covers the Rebelion of Satan, the Punishment for going against God and giving Mankind Freedom of Will in the knowledge of Good and Evil, which is only for God , a gift he granted Luficfer Gods Favoured and Chosen Angel who rebelled against God... as Prometheus did with not only Cronus but then Zeus.

Some depict Satan as actually the savour of Mankind, the one who granted us free will and opened our eyes from Gods Tyrany.... this is what Paradise Lost shows... it portrays him as a Hero at times... Prometheus seen likewise yet he was seen as a Nemisis and Evil to Gods plans and its via Prometheus Actions that Pandoras Box was created to Punish Mankind.

so if we consider the Prometheus Fresco Creature now as the EAGLE.. The Punishment... maybe it makes sense....

Maybe he was used as a Host over and over, but there came a time when he was freed.. or his followers, saved him... and via the Organisms that was given rise from him (C-Sections) or even by the Eagle Creature that was his Punishment..

He wanted revenge... and so he Prometheus then (or another Faction of Engineers) reverse Engineered the Eagle/Fresco creature to create Evil Biology and one of those creations was the Xeno....  and they then used this upo God and his Kingdom in revenge for Punishment to the Prometheean Engineer so Gods Punishment Tool, was turned upon him..

This or similar is what i thought was going on, i had 4 theories that are connected, and Half of those Stem from the above idea that i have put down.

"Can you see what is on the altar...? :) :)"

Yep the Urn...... seen this before... and its little changes that make the movie make no sense, if you see my reply to some of the other topics recently.

Having a Urn, or the Sacrificial Bowl, would make for a more easier connection..

Indeed my theory is that the Goo is re-weaponized from a Organism related to the Xeno...

If the Sacrifical Engineer stood in a large VAT, or Chamber with a hole in the floor connected to some plumming work that would carry drained fluid and eventually be placed with Jars at the Bottom.

If the Engineer Sacrificed himself the same way, but his broken down Material (maybe needs Water to help, so maybe he is in large Show like Cubical?) this material instead of falling into the Water Fall.... if its is collected into Jars....

What happens if these Jars are emptied into a Lake or the Water Fall? 

Logic would say the same result.... as Prometheus....

And so if we take this idea, it makes sense... and its exactly what Spaights Draft shows...

I have many theories....  that are similar but as the clues are so Ambigious its hard to reach ONE SIZE  FITS ALL ... Definitate  Answer..... but most of my theories are all similar just each has a slightly differet Arc on each other.

The Nutshell is some Engineers lead by a Engineer (Satan/Prometheus) use something they should not have done in a way the other Engineers or Higher Gods never intended... Created Mankind without Gods Permision?  Or they indeed Evolved Life or interfered in a way against God/The Hierarchy plans....

This Satan/Prometheus or representing Faction... were Punished by the Hierarchy with some Evil Bio-Weapon Creature......  But this use of such a creature became a Calamity to these Gods, or maybe even the Rebelious Faction that was targeted by this Punishment Bio-Weapon... Re-engineered and used it against the Hierarchy laying waste to Paradise.

The remaining Engineers, found the result of some of the re-weaponizing of this Creature produced something of Perfection.... 

The Engineers were created in the image of a Hierarchy , their (Engineers) DNA used to seed worlds, and give rise to Mankind... in their image.....   The Faction of Engineers are now Free, as their Father is Dead (Davids comment does everyone not want their Parents Dead) Just as David is now Free.... The Engineers on LV-223 are now free of the Tyrany of the Hierarchy.

They maybe then had Mankind Worship them as Gods, as the Hierarchy  above the Engineers is gone... then the Engineers are now King.. (a King has his Reign and then he dies)....  maybe Mankind proved to be rebelious to the Engineers as they was to their Creators/Hierarchy  

As these Engineers were created in the image of their Creator... but following the War and Punishment on them, the Engineers came across a creation at the hands of Re-Weaponizing the Punishment upon them to create the Deacon in the Mural.

The Engineers Father/Creators are gone.... maybe they feel unhappy at how the Engineers are reminded of their creators because they are in the same image?  But now after the Failed Punishment upon them... they have created a offspring... the Deacon and the Engineers see this creatures DNA, as being superior to their own and also their creators..

The Deacon DNA in that Mural is Perfection..... and so now these Engineers wish to use this Deacons DNA, as a way to Evolve Mankind... as the Deacons DNA is better Evolutionary DNA to create Life than the Engineers.

But in doing so, they also befell to the Punishment they wish to use upon their wayward and rebelious creations... just as their creators fell Calamity to the Punishment intended for the wayward rebelious Engineers.

This forms the basis for my Prometheus theory... as a broad stokes....

so yeah those last few post are the broad stokes to my interpretation on what is going on etc...

I feel maybe the Space Jockey could be the Punishment sent down to those Engineers a few hundred years before the Outbreak and re-weaponizing of the Eggs...

But then on the Flip side.... the Derelict could have been leaving LV-233 either few hundred years before... or after... as i have a few theories that connect but each differ slightly.

Last post for today... I will write some ideas tomorrow...

 

What DO you think about THIS?

I was going to get round to making a few Topics.....  

Ultimate Fresco and Mural Topic.... which i covered the bare bones above..

Ultimate Goo Topic....

The Space Jockey Story and how it connects to LV-223

And a Topic about the  Connection to LV-223, Xeno, Prometheus/Satan Punishment and Rebelion and Engineer Agenda as far as creation of Man, Fall of Man and Engineers... i,e Paradise Lost theme... which i have again covered loosely above...

Maybe all of these could be done in a Ultimate Theory on Prometheus... but i put such a thing on hold as most stuff i have covered here before and i put it on hold with the U-Turn that is Covenant..

I have read all what you wrote and we share some major ideas... You are a bright spot of this forum, Dave... maybe they should hire you to revise the screenplay... it would be a BOMB! :)

Bravo.

 

P.s. I have faith in John Logan and those two writers (Green, and Peglan). This picture above shows to me that they knew from start...were they are going. Maybe they changed the routes slightly :) Hope for great movie remains, and we will wait and see ;) 

Hard to make out as some of the detail is vary vague and ambigious but thats Giger for you a lot of his work you cant make out when one thing ends and another begins...

I do think the Face in that Arch has to be connected to the Engineers and maybe where they obtained their Bio-Tech From...  as the Sacrificial Scene their ship did not look as Giger Bio-Mechanical or their Atire....

Is it the Fresco Creature? Who knows... but i would say that they are connected at the very least.

***Its easy to notice SAME patterns.

And what the hell is cistern..??? I mean, what purpose it has? (image below)

Maybe I am boring with all my images and interpretations... But it is impossible to see all these different things and symbols in movie and to say that it is a coincidence (it is not)... and that there is everywhe ambiguity...  I now very much belive that everything in Prometheus is very much intentional! 

There are many hidden depictions of mythological, religious, science and philosophical elements and symbols in this movie that it is insane... We see symbol of water, sacrifice, holy chalice, forbiden fruit and the fluid of creation and destruction ( tree of the knowledge of good and evil; Norse eitr/ liquid substance is the origin of all living things: the first giant (again giant) Ymir was conceived from eitr. The substance is supposed to be very poisonous and is also produced by Jörmungandr the Midgard serpent and other serpents), Engeener during sacrifice even stand in the same position as Satan in John Baptist Medina painting (gravure) The Creation of Man created for Miltons Paradise Lost (see Blake philospohy); then all those artifact from history (Sumerian, Babylonian, Egyptian...) showing how Engeeners visited us (Ancient astrounaut theories), Book of Enoch/Anunnaki, Nephilim (called Giants in Bible)... Prometheus reach destination on Christmas... or ancient holiday called Saturnalia (note the Planet in the system where LV_223 is located, it look same as Saturn), and it opens the question of dieties related to Saturn as for example Oziris, and Saturn himself... Then wee have Titan Prometheus and his "sin" of giving the man fire (note that Holowey is killed by fire thrower), and Prometheus even created the man from mud and Athena brought him to life... then comes Pandora and her box with all the hell in it... (this all Greek mythology is same as Miltons vision of Gods And Satan war and Adam and Eve story of sin...). All of this myths and religious motifs are so intertwined and almost simillar and with the same message... Then you have Shaw who is infertile but she gave birth to trilobite (like Marry; virgin birth)... Symbolism of cross during sacrifices (Holloway and Janek)... Now we see even presence of god Pan (fertility and mortality) on this photo and who knows what more is there... There is even great influence of painter William Blake and his paintings (see Engineers look) and philosophy:

"Afallen creator known as Urizen (the Satanic element of the fourfold division of God) acts as the creator figure for the world. This is basically a retelling of the concepts at the heart of Gnosticism- the belief that the one true supreme god is remote and untouchable and that creation as we know it stems from an imperfect demiurge..."

It would be nice to collect all of this mythological, symbolical, religious, philosophical, and scientific (time relativity and wormhole theory is present in the movie as Pythagoras philosophy of numbers and spheres; musical harmony and flute) elements into one great post or even a PDF... ;) 

Greek God PAN

Pan, who according to the Greek cosmology and works trying to describe the origin of the cosmos and mind - like Hesiod's -, belongs to the very first generation of Gods, who precede the existence of the cosmos. He is a progenitor-existent in the micro-cosmos just the same as in the macro-cosmos. Sometimes he is vulgarized, appearing as a triarchic system of micro-, macro-, and mezzo-cosmos, but really there's a hiding fourth; the uniting-all divine aspect. The aspect above existence and non-existence.
The word pan, means everything. Therefore he represents the all-aspect of the universe; the physical world, the psychic world, the idea world and the one above all, the divine sphere of One. In this respect he is called Gnosis, which is rather a state of "existence" (we are talking high out of existence) than a termable existent. As the primarily, divine, ancient and creating idea, he is called Pan pangenitor, "the creator of all", but is also called Pan panfager, "the destroyer of all". In Latin tradition the dark aspect of Pan will be called » Dispater, the Father of the Underworld, the ruler of Dis. So we see that Pan is an ambivalent figure like Merkurius-Hermes-Toth; he has a satanic face, the Saturnic, the Sol Niger face (Saturn is called DARK SUN), the face of the chaos of the under-waters, the face of the underworld, the nearly-nothing-aspect, and he has the face of the spiritual sun, the universality of above existence.

Pan's dark aspect can be traced through the centuries, and was always placed in very central position like the city of Dis in Dante's Divina Comedia, but centuries before that in the book of Enoch, giving same layers of the underworld. Therefore Pan is the Master of the Universe, not only Dispater, the lord of the chaotic under-waters and the equivalent of all dark aspects of things.

This "underworldness" was called khthonicity by the Greeks - the absolute darkness and abyss of all evil. In this chthonic under-water realm is where Dispater rules; this is where the women aspect of Nature (Physis), the Sophia, the daughter of the world is cast. By hermetics she is called Kore Kosmou ("Virgin of the World") and by the sumerian tradition Ereshkigal. She becomes the mistress of the underworld, the 'sacred whore' aspect, in contradiction to Innana, the virgin aspect. So maybe the first is Shaw... (as the mother of creature) and second is Daniels... 

Wow Enoch333! Incredible insight, I never once thought about the Engineer using a flute! I have a feeling this movie will be talked about for decades.

 

I really think that the backstory of the Prometheus is well conceived (almost perfect)... even some of the decisions (which are badly written) are very much intentional (when you look whole story)...

Read the meaning about god Pan (I edited post about) and symbolic behind him... I am now collecting all of hidden meaning into single pdf and then I will try to connect everything! :)

We have two engineers with robes (same from the opening scene), and
first looks at the hole on the pod...??????? This photo puts down my theory that
there are two types of Engineers...!

Here we see that something big came out...

Crystal???

What this photos mean? Can somebody with expertise explain me this?

"Maybe I am boring with all my images and interpretations"

Not at all, some of the images i cant comment to much on because they are making something out of a vague image like a cloud... some i can see what you are pointing out mind.

For certain maybe the Face above the Archways plays a important role... it has to be connected but how who knows.... could be what the Engineers got their Bio-Tech From, or something they created... its hard to say.

The thing is we truly cant be sure and may never find out, or at very least they may show us something that is no connected to these little Clues.... as if they was there for no reason and forgotten about like Lindeloff did a lot in Lost TV Series.

As far as the Mythos and Mottifs yes the movie was vaguely trying to connect various Mythos and Religon... maybe not as deep as you are trying to go, but certainly the broad strokes to the idea was based off those Many Mythos Ideas.

I would loved to had seen them show us more about how these things connected... but its if we ever will be shown this... i fear the Engineers and connections with all these Ancient Cultures and Mythos and Mottifs is something they are now going to steer away from and Tone down...

A Cistern is some kind of contraption usually a Bucket or Vat or Box that is used to collect Water, typically Rain Water.... we see that the central Shaft water drips down from this.... we see this when Holloway takes his Helmet off..

Why does it have water who knows, maybe Water is needed to create Life... many Ancient Creation Myths Water plays a key roll as far as the World.  The drafts and indeed Spaights sugest our Engineers were Teraforming down here (LV-223 Pyramid Mounds).

The Crystal Image is interesting as it appears to be concept work to Spaights draft were the Engineers did indeed have Teraforming Technology and Vickers was interested in getting her hands on this.

The Crystall on the Altar which may not be the Original Idea... could mean the Crystal is what the Seed of Life comes from? Maybe?

As far as the Chest Busted Engineers yes, the holes look bigger than a Xenomorph... but then check out the CryoPod Case/Lid.... those Holes are not large enough to allow what ever Chest Busted from the Engineer Props out...

Maybe just about i suppose...

As for the Robbed Engineers this is interesting and you have a higher Resultion one, i was on the fence with this as i thought maybe it could be fake?  well the Robes.... but im not so sure now.

What plans was going on who knows... how the Cryo Pods work out who knows.... well i have a few theories... but if indeed the Robed Engineers in that image was a Actual Shot they had taken but then removed... how much of a massive clue have them actually gone and removed?

 

Big Dave:

 

” i fear the Engineers and connections with all these Ancient Cultures and Mythos and Mottifs is something they are now going to steer away from and Tone down...”

I don’t think that they will need to do so, it depends on how they are telling the story and if they will connect things in a way that makes sense to those that watch it. The Engineers is a potentially interesting topic since they have not been explored before but they got to make it interesting and not confusing. Some questions could be left open so people can make up their own answers to it (that is how you do science really) but with that being said you also got to give logic answers to the main questions:

 

• Why do the Engineers want to kill us?
• Who made the Xenos and why?

 

These are the two questions in a nut shell that I want the movie to answer. They don’t need to give us all the answers but at least those that are the most important. What was interesting about the Xeno was that it was unknown so you could make your own image of it so maybe we could be give us 50% of the explanation to the Xeno and leave 50% of the answers to us to explain ourselves.

 

Back to the cultures and Engineers. You can explain a lot about the engineers and come up with many things but somewhere you got to make a limit to how many ideas you want to put into the movie. It is almost like writing an essay at a university course you can write about a topic and write about many things within the essay but somewhere you got to draw a line of what you shall write about or else the essay would cover like 100 pages without a problem. The Engineer society/politics, philosophy, and religion are the things that are the most interesting to me.

 

Lastly I got to mention that they need to make interesting human characters. This is something that I feel that I can’t bring up enough since that was something that Prometheus lacked but the captain (Janek) and David were well done.