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Alien Covenant and Beyond: The Three Film Story Arc

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In May, we will finally see what has happened to David and Shaw as they no doubt by the trailer landed on Paradise. It is said that we will get answers for the mysteries of Prometheus. Yet, we will be left with mystery and no doubt a cliff hanger ending as Sir Scott has stated that he intends to make (2) more films that will dive and lead into Alien 1979. He has said with the next two films, we will finally find out why the Space Jockey crashed and how he ultimately got an Alien inside him. The question will remain with Covenant and so forth is, will David be the antagonist throughout the whole of the journey or will Katherine Waterson's character be involved as well? I know that I am jumping the gun but it is intriguing that Scott will take this story into 2 other films and tie them off into Alien 1979. 

 

What are Your thoughts for this 3 film story arc?

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Maybe I'm just seeing things but:

1) In the top left corner, the 2nd engineer. What's that between his legs (no pun intended)? Another one?

2) The dark stuff on the ground seems to amass around those who were dead before the "petrifying". But not underneath them like i would expect from a dissolving process.

3) Lower left, bit upward. An engineer, lying on his back. Is that a hole in his chest/belly?

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@tiwaz

1. Another one in front of him... Or a tail...

2:vomit fits the patterns in some cases, maybe "bleeding" black goo.

3: It looks like an emaciation indentation more than a whole.  

Another odd fact about this pic: there is a noticeable change in skin coloration between the heads and bodies. Most noticeable at the top of the frame in partial shadow. Whatever happened completely dessicated (removed all liquid from) the bodies they haven't been burned.

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Nice summary and indeed we get different sets of fans... i think this movie is going to try and please those more like you and those like me (not that having different favored outcomes is important).

its going to i think give us more a Planned Prometheus 2 meets Spaights Alien: Engineers....

The outcome maybe then leave them to look at the aftermath (what fans reception is) and then Gauge things like.

*Right thats done.. can we now steer away from Alien in the next movie and back to the Engineers, then use a 3rd movie to Tie it all together...

*Crikey seems like Engineers are not going down to well with the Fans, and our Xeno coverage could have been more.

so they can then tailor the next movie to suit, what they think ultimately would SELL..

Ridley could maybe give us a bit of both but then not enough to please both sets of Fans and want to cover the Engineers more... if AC Bombs as far as critics...  and Fox feels they need to give more Xenos... and bring in the Space Jockey as a more Alien Race and forget the Engineers....  If this is not Ridleys Vision but a direction FOX would want to go if AC again did not do as well as planned..

Then Ridley would have to give into what ever FOX wanted or they would bring in someone else...

Unless Ridley has fleshed out his Story and Nailed down some things he has REQUESTED to be covered in order to have him on board and then Signed a Contract to allow him to have certain things his way?

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"What's that between his legs"

This is why there are females... its a fight over who gets that biggest prize lol

We really cant be sure whats going on.... they appear to be as if they have had a Mud Bath and then left the Mud to dry on them.... the Floor has like Dried Mud effect too.

What ever has happened has left them all dead well some and at least in a very ill state,  so it would appear the effects of something that has deadly outcome as far as a Disease, Pathogen or some other Poisoning..

its hard to say if this is a Black Goo outbreak... it would fit with the Franchise and Black Goo or similar... but its hard to say if this is the case or indeed if its a event from thousands of years ago or a event more recent.  i.e after Davids arrival.

 

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We need to look at the Theme of Prometheus for Answers...

The movie was about these Beings who we was Genetically Related too... the Engineers on LV-223 and the Sacrificial Scene (include Elders too) are Genetically connected with Mankind...  

The movie shows a seeding of DNA via a Mutagen Goo..... then also a attempt to destroy Mankind with another type o Goo.... which failed due to a Outbreak...

The other theme was about Creator, Creates and Creation then starts to behave or turn out in ways the Creator never intended or feared.....  and so Creator attempts to Punish their wayward or failed creation..

We see hints that David is showing signs of functioning in ways not intended and to act for his own desires and not his creators.....  Its hinted.. but more so in Ridleys comments that the Engineers may have done the same with their Creators. Or at least Hierarchy

Paradise Lost was a theme they was touching on... this is a theme that can still connect....

*We have God... who could be replaced by Gods (or the Top of the Hierarchy).

*We have Chosen Creations of the God/s who some Rebel against the rule and we have a War and the rebellious being Punished and Evicted from Paradise/Heaven

*Mankind is created, as a replacement and then Mankind is corrupted and then also Evicted and will Face numerous Punishments over the years for going against Gods Rule.

I think these themes are Loosely at Play.

This Disaster Scene would then be some kind of Punishment, its a case of is this Scene Punishment via...

*Gods/Hierarchy on the rebellious sub-creations.. be that rebellious Engineers.. or similar?

*As above but on some related Race who connect to Mankind and Engineers.. a earlier Ancestor of Mankind?

*Punishment against the Hierarchy/Gods... by their creations or rebellious Faction?

*Punishment to the Gods/Hierarchy new favored creation by those who  were against the Gods/Hierarchy.

OR.....

Punishment brought by David... which without good reason, and not allowing David to find out some of the answers Shaw and the viewers wanted... to relay them to us.. via maybe David being able to interpret before or after this Disaster what the Agenda was... of those beings and Engineers.

A Flash Back from a more Ancient Event could serve as a Narrative to explain those Big Questions more than David just unleashing Hell on them.... unless there is a event prior to this that we would get some information on WHY.

I hope they dont go the Whole...

Mankind created David because they Could..

Engineers created David because they Could..

So David destroys Engineers and creates something to use on the Covenant Crew and Mankind... because he COULD..

That would be a COP-OUT

 

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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It looks like these Engineers were bathing and then (in my best Woody drawl) Somebody POISNED the Water hole!

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