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Alien and the troubles of Artificial Intelligence

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ninXeno426

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Science fiction has a long history of artificial intelligence turning on us,Terminator,The Matrix,2001 A Space Odyssey to name a few.Alien has had a rather different approach.They have often proven to be just as,if not more dangerous than the xenomorph.After all they are supposed to be trustworthy.In Alien,Ash's identity as an android was a secret,planted on board The Nostromo to collect and safeguard what ever they found on LV-426.His reveal late in the film shocked many,after all it was only two years before audiences saw a much friendlier vision of robots in Star Wars.Ash recalled Hal 9000,only perhaps more sinister due to that he looked,talked and acted just like us,not just a red lense.Bishop was the polar opposite,loyal,no violence,no secret agenda(this time around it was a human instead.)In those 57 years that had past,they seemingly ironed out the issue's with those twitchy A2 models(though that was a convenient cover story to further discredit Ripley.)Then there was Call.200 yesterday had past and androids had become more human than ever,gaining an independence that lead to a recall,"they didn't like being told what to do."Call learned of the United Systems Military's agenda prior to the recall,and set out to sabotage there plans all according to her free will,not programming.That brings us to David 008,who's something of an enigma.Being an early model He doesn't really have any behavior inhibitors that his successors might.David while seeming pretty human,seems to feel superior being an android.A notable example is when Charlie Holloway inquires as to why he needs a helmet to which David replies"I was designed like this because you are more comfortable interacting with your own kind.If i didn't wear the suit it would defeat the purpose." "They're making you guys pretty close huh." "Not too close i hope."Another example would be when David and Holloway discuss creation.Holloway says they made David because they could.David replies"Can you imagine how disappointing it would be to hear the same thing from your creator."Ofcourse you can imagine David has some resentment towards the human race which created him just simply "because they could."It's hard to blame him for some of his actions.That brings us to his role in Alien Covenant where he seemingly has taken on the role of creator.An android who was created by a man who wanted to be a god has possibly become a god himself.Hard to say whether he created the xenomorph(i'd say probably not but he has most likely created the Neomorph and the protomorph)We also have Walter which we know nothing about so far.It's likely he'll be more stoic and reserved like Bishop,but being before Ash and possibly part of the same series possibly twitchy.It's curious to see how these two might interact.Either way the androids have often proven themselves to be just as if not more deadly at times than the xenomorph.A possible cautionary tale about the dangers of creating Artificial Intelligence perhaps?On how things might turn out to be one day if we're not too careful.What do you guys think?P.S. I'd like to credit the various topics and comments from dk,Ati,ali81,chli,Michelle Johnston and various others for their views on artificial intelligence for inspiring this thread.Thank you guys.

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Indeed, both good theories... maybe indeed.

If David was some way to being free, and knew there was a way he could be more free but he was not able to perform this task, then indeed getting Shaw to do it for him by Trickery could work.

On the Flip side..... If Shaw knew of a Reset Button, would she be tempted to use it so that this David who she may find hard to trust can pose less of a threat.

But then indeed, this would wipe Davids memory and knowledge he had about the Engineers and Their Technology... we have to assume a Freshly Turned on David would not have this knowledge.

So its Catch 22 for Shaw and i think this was a very wasted Dynamic that we may not now get to see.

Some kind of Covenant would have to be made between them...

I think now we have to rely on Walter and David dynamic for this kind of Cat and Mouse, Trust/Dont Trust Arc.

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Hadn't considered that his memory would be wiped.As for Shaw,would she know the anatomy of an android?Ripley seemed to know what she was doing when it came to both Ash and Bishop.

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According to Bishop in Aliens, the newer models are programmed with "behavioural inhibitors" which makes it impossible for them to "harm or by omission of action, allow to be harmed, a human being". This is partly copied from Isaac Asimov's "Three Laws of Robotics":

  1. "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws."

I guess David 8 wasn't programmed with these "behavioural inhibitors"?

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timeline wise david is the oldest model we have seen. im pretty sure ash didn't have the same protocols bishop had so it is safe to assume david doesn't either.

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ninXeno426
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No,Ash became violent,we might expect the same from Walter maybe.

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanations, I am so glad to become a part of this society! Kindly follow http://bigpaperwriter.com/blog/meet-artificial-intelligence-and-what-is-behind-the-curtains, whereas you wish to be smart in all academic areas.

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