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I have heard complaints about AC CGI but what I have seen looks pretty good to me. Can anyone give an example of what is really good believable CGI compared to AC?

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The worst case I can remember was the prequel to The Thing.

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The Thing prequel, wasn't Bad, but could have been better. It was wreched a bit due to rushed last-minute changes, so the CGI guys had to scramble in places and it shows.

The early CGI work in Tim Burton's BATMAN, well, it's good for the era, but there's some huge flaws in it, but again, consider it was early days...

The CGI work in ALIEN 3 holds up ok, but in some places, it's painfully obvious.

Rogue One, the de-aged Princess Leia...with the grey pallor, yeah, right there, serious flaw.

The Matrix Reloaded, the guy in the battleframe in the scene where the Nebuchadnezzar comes through the gate near the start of the film...the muzzles of the battleframe's guns basically look 'solid', kind of an 'oops' as well as the herky-jerky movement of it.

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BWW- interesting that the best examples are fairly old. Personally, I try to suspend belief. I have noticed that the best CGI seems to be in dark rainy places- Jurassic Park still holds up in that regard imo. RS mentioned that the Transformers had really good CGI but he stated that he just didn't have the patience for it- gotta love those old school folks!

I get the feeling that some will never be happy with CGI.

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Godzilla: King of the Monsters The last Godzilla movie I saw was 1998 I think- where it ended with seeing a football stadium filled with eggs? Anyway, there was good CGI there but one horribly pixilated part near the end. I think it had some dark wet scenes too that looked really good. It is interesting since I have read from game designers that realistic water effects are among the most difficult to convincingly achieve.

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The best example of CGI for me would probably be "Jurassic Park", the worst example is the movie "Reptillian".

Godzilla... Truly a God incarnate.

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Godzilla: King of the Monsters

I liked the movie and re watched the last scene (I haven't seen it since 2000 and the eggs scene I mentioned must have been from a different Godzilla movie?). I think it is why I haven't followed the franchise since too- watching us take down a majestic creature like that- one we conjured up- makes me a little more sympathetic to David and the Engineers wanting to take us out.

EDIT- I was thinking about the baby attack scene where there were lots of eggs- been a long time! Are newer movies as good or better?

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I think I would put the last couple Planet of the Apes in there as good CGI.

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OH, SPECIES, the CGI Sil creature in the climactic battle...yeah, pretty painful CGI.

RS, he loves Practical and I admit, as good as CGI is, Practical Fx still have the edge, and take less time :D

The 'Godzilla' movie where it ended with being entangled in the bridge...a Good monster movie...but wasn't Godzilla, not to me.
To me there's One G-zilla, and I love him. :) The most recent movie, I loved how he just crashed out for a nap after the battle, everyone thinks OMG he's dead...Nope. :)

Jurassic park, yeah, holds up quite well, gotta say.

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dk I agree "Planet of the Apes" is an excellent example of good cgi. I liked the cgi in "The Day After Tomorrow", "Mad Max Fury Road", "Titanic", "Rogue One", "Guardians of the Galaxy", "Ex Machina".

Bad cgi is to me the one that looks fake like "The Scorpion King", "Kong Skull Island", "Guardians of the Galaxy 2"

And you have some that are a mix bag like "Artificial Intelligence", "Transformers", "The Force Awakens", "Prometheus"

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The 'Godzilla' movie where it ended with being entangled in the bridge

That was 1998 and pretty good imo although about 15 years since I saw it.

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I heard of two examples involving cgi in Alien Covenant in scenes that actually not necessarily needed it, resulting in less than optimal results. One involving a fire, the other a severed head.

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 And this quote from Ridley Scott himself might explain these problems: "You are constantly redrawing. It will evolve digitally on set"

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For AC, I would not have noticed the CGI flaw when the whatevermorph was climbing down a ladder unless an alert member showed it in slowmo on repeat lol!

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Jurassic Park....hands down best to date....the technology was in its infancy in 1992, only certain shots have CGI, blended to practical effects and puppetry .... Worst has to be ever single movie on the SciFy Channel

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Well someone told me that that guy at times looks like he is made of "chocolate" lol

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It is a good movie, the 1998 'Godzilla', by itself it stands up very well. I quite enjoy it, although I de-couple my mind from Godzilla when watching it.
Problem is they tied it to a well-known Franchise, and folks expected a Godzilla movie, which it really wasn't.

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They can always spruce things up for the Director's Cut and we KNOW that's coming :D

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 Blackwinter-witch Hopefully :-)

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Slab_bay "Jurassic park" was a combination of animatronics and cgi that's why the monsters have more "presence"

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