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The director of Alien Awakening is............

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Jay Johns

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I am a HUGE fan of Ridley Scott!!!! As a matter of fact my Youngest son's name is 1st name Ridley, middle name Scott. As much as I like the prequels and Alien, with all the negativity that surrounds the prequels Fox may be looking at replacing Ridley with a new director. And that's even if they continue with the franchise. I have thought about this and 2 directors have come to mind. I like the story but maybe they need to beef up the horror and suspense. The 2 directors I came up with is James Wan and Fede Alvarez. Opinions?

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I.Raptus
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Ridley Scott. it won't be anyone else until this prequel story is finished

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...BigDave.

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...joylitt.

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...Mr H.

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...David.

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Ati
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...the alien Queen.

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I.Raptus
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haha Ati nice. Maybe

Executive Producer: BigDave

Director:Joylitt

Writer: Blackwinter-witch

Director of Photography: Ati

Soundtrack: iRaptus

Narrated by: Mr H

Starring: dk and the alien queen

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IRaptus I agree, Ridley Scott, let him finish his story.

I would also watch what Ati suggested XD

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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hopefully Covenant is just setting the pieces for a big climatic third film, something huge like a war between engineers and humans + David on Origae-6 using Xeno's as a bio-weapon against each other. Total chaos and destruction.

Bam!

LV426

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Huge! IRaptus, you know something. :)

Lawrence of Arabia - Ha! So would I! :D

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IRaptus Exactly! :-) I heard elsewhere though that LV-426 is a moon to a planet on the other side of the galaxy from where Origae-6 is.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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20th Century Fox would be wise to end the speculation about the future of the Alien movie series and state that Sir Ridley Scott will be allowed to direct the next installments, with hopefully a larger budget.

Ridley Scott has made 20th Century Fox a ton of money over the years and he should be given respect and the freedom to make the next movie how he wants.

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JOHNNYMORPH This. Exactly this. He also created the franchise and he's been good to Fox.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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Ati
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What a beautiful thread! :)

edit:

What a beautiful thread it was.

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JOHNNYMORPH I agree also. They need to back Ridley Scott's vision for at least a third film to tie the prequels to Alien, can't leave it randomly hanging in limbo.

Once the prequels are done, I feel they should move forward quickly with a new direction/vision. Maybe then give someone else a shot at taking the helm.  

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Jay Johns upvoted just for naming your son Ridley :)

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Lawrence of Arabia Technically, James Cameron created the franchise because when you make 1 single movie you don't know if it is going to be a franchise or not. Ridley Scott actually pitched a second movie which was going to be just about meteorites seeding the Earth with Aliens. On the other hand, Aliens expanded the universe introducing many concepts that Ridley Scott is using today. I still prefer Alien over Aliens, but it cannot be denied the franchise probably would not exist if not for Cameron. And please Lawrence, understand I am not trying to pick a fight lol

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'Ridley Scott actually pitched a second movie which was going to be just about meteorites seeding the Earth with Aliens.'

-- something again which is not true, constantly, without end...

He had three big ideas, one of them was to discover the Alien planet in Alien II.

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Jay Johns -- I love Wan's The Conjuring movies, and Insidious 2 is a big favourite, but only Ridley Scott! Only Ridley Scott!

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It certainly should explain what the Alien is and where it comes from,” he (Scott) told Omni’s Screen Flights/Screen Fantasies in 1984. “That will be tough because it will require dealing with other planets, worlds, civilisations. Because obviously the Alien did come from some sort of civilisation. The Alien was presented, really, as one of the last survivors of Mars – a planet named after the god of war. The Alien may be one of the last descendants of some long-lost self-destructed group of beings.”

Scott’s ideas:

The Alien, merely stunned by its close encounter with the shuttle engines, manages to survive outside the craft and reaches civilisation along with Ripley.

A second expedition to the planetoid is stranded there and, weathering a storm within the derelict and their own ship, its members deal with a group of Aliens, climaxed by the appearance to whose race the Space Jockey belongs.

A prequel, rather than a sequel, telling the tale of the Space Jockey and ending where Alien begins, with the arrival of the Nostromo crew.

The planetoid of the Alien explodes, sending Alien eggs to Earth where a whole flock of the monsters run rampant.

But despite all of Ridley’s theorising and the commercial and cultural success of the original, the sequel did not appear. The reason for this is perplexing but simple: Twentieth Century Fox did not want it. Alan Ladd Jnr., the head of Fox who had heralded both Star Wars and Alien (and affectionately called ‘Laddy’ by Ridley Scott and co.) left the company in 1979 to found his own production firm, The Ladd Company, whom most will recognise as the producers of another science-fiction classic, Blade Runner. Ladd’s replacement was Norman Levy, who, according to Giler, opposed the very notion of an Alien II.

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Ati Whatever. What Ridley Scott's Alien 2 was going to be about is not relevant to the point I wanted to make. I just remembered it is even worse: the Alien was supposed to be from Mars.

https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/ridley-scotts-alien-ii-or-what-he-wanted-to-happen/

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If this terrible movie is going to happen anybody but Ridley should direct it, the dude has lost it. Hopefully nobody directs Awakening which means the movie won't happen and it will never exist.

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Ati "The planetoid of the Alien explodes, sending Alien eggs to Earth where a whole flock of the monsters run rampant."

See what I mean? and you posted it yourself. It sounds like a 50's B movie idea to me. Anyway my point is James Cameron (not my favorite director ever) allowed this franchise to flourish.

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joylitt - Totally relevant because your comments are full of misleading, false and manipulative pieces of information trying to ridicule Ridley Scott. Nothing has changed. That's all!

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Thank god Ridley Scott focused on making Blade Runner, which for ever will be my favorite movie.

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Jay Johns That is an awesome name for your kid! After Ridley, I can see James Wan.

joylitt You have a point. Cameron really helped create the franchise with his popular Aliens and created/cemented a lot of the mythos. Ridley and Cameron were actually working together at one point to create a prequel before AvP happened. Though, Alien is really Ridley's baby. It was his seminal work and without him we wouldn't have the same film from Dan O' Bannon and Ron Shussett. I appreciate you not being antagonistic, I'm not trying to pick a fight either. I really just want to enjoy this universe with like-minded individuals and those who love it as well.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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joylitt --- Man, you had claimed in your previous comment that that was his only idea. That's why I copied the line from my own topic to show that your statement is false, because he had several other ideas as well!

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Lawrence of Arabia Thank you for being sensible, man. We are all on the same boat and I don't want o be at war with anybody :-)

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'Starring: dk and the alien queen'

IRaptus - Is it going to be an adult movie? :D

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Joylitt, I'm with your philosophy of the franchise's existance. Both parts equally almost being Ridley and Cameron. For ridley the negative is he just put it together well on film but creatively it was a perfect storm. Cameron had a foundation but the sheer brilliance of him and his wife(producer) WRITING and directing those amazing characters with a Vietnam War analogy is just balls out galactic badassery! JC's negative is well, I can't think of one. But I really appreciate the original poster showing his love for what Sir Riddles has accomplished but has made peace with the fact that Covenant bombed and the sequel could be on life support with Scott not even having a chance to make it right for the ones that feel let down. He's acknowledging that RS is NOT the be all end all & that there are two directors he feels could be quite capable. I feel the same way but I like 'Get out" director and "It Comes at Night" director.

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Capt Torgo The fact is Ridley needs a good script to make a good movie. He does not have one single credit as a writer, and that is ok, not every director has to be a writer. The problem is, based on his resume and propensity to discuss the many fascinating aspects of the world building in his movies, some fans have started to make him into this visionary generator of groundbreaking ideas. The truth is he does need a good source of ideas, call it Philip K Dick, Dan O'Bannon, Joseph Conrad, etc. Good sci-fi is still published today; probably Ridley has no time to read much thesedays. But if there were any good writers around they could pitch an idea with him, and then he could do his magic again.

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And before Ati reprimads me (again) I am going to rectify myself. Ridley Scott did write his first short titled "Boy and bycicle", and has " conceived by" writing credits for a couple of promotional shorts for Covenant.

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James Franco? )))

Nah, Ridley Scott, even after all the whatever, he needs to tie it up to his own original film.

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Quinten Tarantino,seriously.

Imagine his dialogue penchant for violence.

As Big of a Ridley fan as I am ,change it up.

Make Ridley Executive Producer.

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Raven, Tarantino? I have loads of respect for the man, and I am sure he might find a very creative angle. The humor he bakes into his work though may turn it into another Resurrection. And he already killed Fassbender in the Basterds. But he's definitely a creative force any franchise might benefit from.

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a good script is most def a good starting point but even bad scripts can be made into classics by the director. star beast was poor. all that's left of O'Bannon and shussetts' script is the synopsis. it was ripped to pieces and put back together again. the monster is Gigers. the feel for the movie is Ridleys. the script is Hill and Gilers. don't get me wrong, im grateful and appreciate the contribution they had, they came up with the idea for the egg, facehugger and the big chap and how to get it on the ship (yes key ingredients) but their script is BAD man. ur putting too much onto the writers here which is kinda what their paid to do so hard to defend them. but remember, RS had full access and control over script changes as told by both spaights and lindelof. they would write, leave the script for him to read, come back and ridley would have scored through what he didn't want, make side notes and requests for what HE wanted and they would go back and change. both Prometheus and AC scripts were approved by ridley himself. I am a huge RS fan, I love his work and his eye. alien and blade runner will forever stand the test of time and will go down as 2 of the all time great movies, not just in the sci fi genre. he has to finish what he started I believe but I do wonder what james wan or Guillermo del torro would do with such potential.

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ali81 Meddling from the director and several re-writes generally happen because the original script was not that good. The best Ridley Scott movies only have 2 writers at most: Blade Runner, Thelma & Louise, The Martian, etc. And O'Bannon was an avid sci-fi fan, which gives him an edge over the likes of John Logan and company.

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my point is that ridley got the scripts he was happy with. he has to shoulder a larger portion of the bad critics due to to the fact he had such influence on the script and he put that script on film. I love RS and pretty much all his movies with the exception of AC. being a sci fi fan does certainly help as having a passion for the genre gives u a leg up on what a fan wants to see. but star beast was poor and that cant be denied regardless of how highly regarded O'Bannon is in the sci fi world for his contributions. imo RS is a good enough director to know that AC needed longer or split into 2 films. hes been in the game long enough and for years when asked about the mythology behind alien he has stated he had his vision for who the big guy in the pilots chair was and what the purpose of the eggs was. hes stated he only came back to address the questions none of the other directors addressed and yet hes still to address these very factors. his plan may have always to hold the engineers back for a later film but its such a cut throat industry that if the return isnt there then the budget for the next instalment gets reduced. to me hes running out of time to give us something that does the engineers/ xeno or the original movie justice. I really hope awakening shuts the doubters up, myself included. I really like Prometheus and was so caught up in the hype and anticipation for AC. maybe that's my own fault but I expected sooooooo much more from AC and imo, it sucks. im not alone in this feeling as shown buy the returns on the film. I don't know the ins and outs of the discussions between fox and ridley as to how in control he actually is in regards to the way these prequels will unfold but the majority of bad critics have to be aimed at the director regardless of the writer. they don't get a free pass but ridley knows the score

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"Naa.Naaaa nigga naaaaaaa" :D

Remember when another directors took the place and we got Garbages like    Aliens, Alien 3, Alien:Resurrection.

It will be best if its Ridley director and writer.I loved Covenant, Prometheus and Alien.

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I love aliens. alien3 is ok as is resurrection but alien is by far the best imo. I love Prometheus and am so bitterly disappointed in AC

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