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Fox signals search for new stories, end of David's reign

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joylitt

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Acknowledging Alien Covenant was a disappointment, Fox CEO Stacey Snider signaled in a statement that the studios will prioritize originality for the sequel, for which Ridley Scott is still onboard. These are the two most important takeaways from his statement:

"I trust Ridley [Scott] and Emma [Watts] to know the right story when they find it". This likely means Logan's 3 page draft for a sequel has already been scrapped, and that new writers will be hired.

And most importantly:

"..they can also find a planet or a storyline or a villain that also lives in that universe that can be groundbreaking." This is a clear sign that David storyline will be downplayed or dropped altogether in the sequel.

I am ecstatic and we should all be, because this is great news!

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This is my opinion of the movie and what could fix it.

The idea of this silly David character(a bad copy of Lore from Star Trek. Cliche!) being the creator of the xenomorphs is just stupid. It takes away the mystique of the whole thing. I saw more flaws as well. One of the main ones is David being the creator(which was a dumb idea) when the xenomorphs were clearly around thousands of years before, indicated on Predator 2 and Alien vs predator.

The only way that can be fixed is to make it that the xenomorphs were not his creation but the genetics were already in the "black goo", and he just followed the instructions he would have gotten from the ship and the engineers base since he and the man who built him already knew their language, he could have gotten it from there. This would make sense since, David was just a fancy computer, and doesn't have a living brain which can change as it learns, making a living brain more advanced and adaptable, his mind would be more like a child even though he has information, he still wouldn't be able to think in the way we do. He would not be able to differentiate between a gardener planting an avocado seed and it growing into a tree and the gardener actually creating the tree. He could have just been planting the seed, but thinking that what came out was his creation. But they shouldn't have done it this way in the first place. 

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Ati Dude I didn't use any piece of information. I was just giving an example of how you take anything I say the wrong way. You are the one who needs to relax. I understand how difficult it must be for you to see your David/Walter soap opera crumble into oblivion. What did you expect? Just suck it up, man.

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Fatheredcat Ridley Scott is ignoring the predator tie-ins (and for good reason). They don't factor into the story one bit.

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joylitt 

:D :D

'I understand how difficult it must be for you to see your David/Walter soap opera crumble into oblivion.'

Are you talking about one of your copyrighted Alien short stories? :D

I understand how difficult it can be for you to face the fact that your Alien scripts are not wanted by Fox. :)

'What did you expect?'

Exactly the pieces of information revealed by Snider.

'Just suck it up, man.'

No comment. :D

 

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Ati I'm currently not looking for a job at Fox. What are you talking about :-)

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Fatheredcat Yes, I agree they have to modify this notion that David is almighty. Actually in the prologue to Covenant Weyland should have turned him off the instant he said "You will die, I will not". That is simply false because he is matter and matter wears off and crumbles. He should know better that the universal truth of Ozymandias applies to him as well. And as you said he did not invent anything neither, he just played with Gods' toys.

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IRaptus

Thank-you!! I admit, I had my doubts at times if I'd get it finished, but I bulled on ahead and just powered through the times when the Muse seemed to have wandered off. :)

Well, if FOX wants new ideas, this is the site they should be following, there's a lot of great writers here!

Best advice I can give, is try to get at least a little writing in each day. It doesn't matter if it's good, or whatever, that can all be fixed in editing, right?
The trick, Mr. IRaptus, is in the accumulation of small efforts into an aggregate whole. ;)

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Are they going to drop David/Walter now, just like the Shaw storyline was dropped too? This is mighty frustrating. :(

@Ati and @joylitt, play nice you two. Seriously...

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Lilly (Svanya) I don't think they are dropping David altogether. But I don't see Walter coming back. We will see less Fassbender for sure.

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"They can also..."

Dont worry at all

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Congratulations Blackwinter-witch on your work and the long, hard slog towards publishing Alien: Manticore. You're a wonderful, innovative writer and I wish for you the very best (country coffer-sized wealth) upon publishing. Thank you for sharing it here.

It is wonderful to see the new eyes, writing coming to the Alien universe joylitt

Ati, I bet Ridley Scott has a mean embouchure.

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David isn't going anywhere :D

"I trust Ridley [Scott] and Emma [Watts] to know the right story when they find it". This likely means Logan's 3 page draft for a sequel has already been scrapped, and that new writers will be hired.

Doesn't necessarily mean they are still looking or that they scrapped Logan's draft. It could mean that but her statement could also be taken as they trust Ridley's decisions even if it's in Logan's script.

"..they can also find a planet or a storyline or a villain that also lives in that universe that can be groundbreaking." This is a clear sign that David storyline will be downplayed or dropped altogether in the sequel.

Ridley isn't going to just drop David, he's built him too much to just toss to the wayside and he created the Xenomorphs. Plus he finds the character interesting as did most audiences with them saying Fassbender was the highlight of the film. He's also the Ripley of these prequels as most of the production team noted. Snider could even be talking about David.

When universes are as rich as “Alien,” they can stay in a too familiar groove — in which case you’re in trouble

What I took away was stick less to the original formula which cooked the beast (chasing through dark corridors) and more original and new (like the Engineers, Origae-6, synthetics). Everyone complained Covenant was too familiar and it looks like they listened.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

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Lawrence of Arabia - 'David isn't going anywhere :D'

Or he'll be back. :)

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Ingeniero

Thank-you very much for you wonderful words and thoughts!

However, ALIEN: Manticore and all my ALIEN-related works are fan-fiction, so I won't make a dime from them, unless FOX offers me some kind of deal.

Who knows what the future will bring? We'll see what we see when we see it. :)

That said, these works of mine are a labor of love.
I love the ALIENverse and I feel it's pretty obvious I have a deep appreciation and respect for my fellow fans of the ALIENverse.
That's why I wrote it, and why I am steadily gaining-ground with the additional ALIENverse works.

For The Fans.
This is my way of showing the fanbase my appreciation and respect of them. :)

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I kind of liked Walter but having David as the main focus is getting boring. I want better human characters.

 

They tried to have David in a big role and it didn't work for many. Time for something new.

 

As far as fan fiction, I really don't care about it. There is a limit to my geekery. ;)

 

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Does this mean that they're gonna be able to tie in with the first film and not do a reboot? Wrap up the story as such?

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Noir1982 I beleive so. Hopefuly it means they will tie in with the first film but they will try to find a new angle to tell the story.

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