AVP Galaxy slams Ridley Scott in their latest podscast

Yeah have to agree, Scott's latest comments have been pretty low and uninspiring for such a renowned visionary director. His prequels do need closure however, so maybe go out with a bang for one last film then time for a shake up and new direction perhaps? 

Alex Garland hell yes!!

Why don't we have a podcast here on Scified?? Has anyone looked at it i wonder....

Those points echo sentiments on this forum almost verbatim.

Well Alex Garland has many good films, but aren't those more or less cult movies? He does good movies and I am waiting for Annihilation, but does what to make an Alien movie? Does del Toro?

I for one agree that the Xenomorph is cook, but also think Covenant was burn out of severe lack of imagination.

I want to see the xenomorph in many movies to come. Not the xenomorph from "Alien Covenant", though. As the people in the podscast said, Ridley Scott is being hypocritical in what he says about the xenomorph, because what is really "cooked" is the format, not the monster. He made 3 movies that follows more or less the same premise. 

joylitt Agree. But what would you do with the beast to carry on? I see it as a killing machine with intelligence. I am unsure what else to do with the beast. Maybe it would be about characters dealing with it since we know what the Alien is about. We don't know how a good cast of characters would deal.

dk There is a mythology to explore. You can unveil a mystery that leads to other mysteries. There are different settings and different genre cross overs to try. If Ridley Scott sticks to his explanation that David created the xenomorph he is condemning the sequels to an endless repetition of the same tropes, and that's a certain death for the franchise.

I don't think RS will be around long enough to do that. To be fair, I might not be around to see it if it does happen.

The series can continue, but I think things need to link up to Alien first. The carrot dangling is old.

Precisely for the reasons you mention it is so important to try and make good movies. These days with the franchises it is very common for fans to say: "the movie was just ok but it is a good set up for better things to come" or "it is a step in the right direction". Actually that is what they are saying about the Justice League movie right now, which is awful. Life is too short and time is too precious to waste in terrible movies like that. This applies to the Alien franchise as well, enough of bad movies already. We want to see a good one before we leave this planet! 

cant argue with anything said. I love Ridley Scott movies but u have to question his dedication to the alien franchise at this point. he slammed AVP and AVPR and yet what has AC done that's better for the franchise? the alien franchise is centred around the monster yet RS is trying to move that focus onto a homicidal AI. Prometheus opened the franchise up and gave for endless potential yet look at where hes gone with AC. contradiction and lack of vision imo is damaging the franchise. hes taking the prequel series down the same path episodes 1-3 went in star wars. doing more harm than good. hes hell bent on taking the wonder and mystery of the original movie and chucking all that away simply to investigate AI. stick to Bladerunner for that and leave the alien franchise centred around the monster but open the universe back up with the engineers and possible others. id love to see Del Toro get his teeth into the franchise. im fast losing faith in Ridley to do the original movie or the franchise any justice or fox for that matter so maybe a takeover by Disney would be a smart move. if awakening follows in the same path as AC then ill look at the franchise as incomplete. I put AC in the same frame as AVP and AVPR and by that I mean it did nothing for the franchise imo and I wont watch again. ill stick to alien through to Prometheus and keep the mystery alive 

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If only the AI stuff would have been new, well-thought out and interesting. Or at least one of them.

im all one for David being an antagonist within the series but Ridley is replacing the focal point of the franchise away from the xeno onto David which isn't gna work. as the guy states in the podcast, if he wanted to focus on something other than the xeno then Prometheus should have been the first movie in a completely new franchise. its an alien franchise so the focus should be centred around the xeno. I love how Prometheus opened up so many door for possibility but AC kinda shut most of them coz he cant be arsed focusing on anything other than David. if he truly believes the xeno is cooked then why come back? hes spent no time on the engineers, hardly any time on the xeno and focusing on David's quest to rule.

We've looked into making Podcasts in the past. I've done some with voice actor friends of mine (to help a young man get his own series started) and suggested we do some with other actors, etc. I think Chris and Gman wanted to do one awhile back. 

good idea. would also maybe be good if it can be done with members phoning in n discussing topics if that's possible n get their views n not just actors?

I'm afraid they might be right on all seven points. RS's heart and soul were in the mini-films.

I agree with some points. I mean, Ridley Scott seems to care, but not really about what the hardcore fans want. Not really what the masses want in a film either. He just seems to want to do his own thing (which is respectable to a point), but it isn't totally meshing with the Alien universe. I mean, sure having the Space Jockeys as beings above us in the universal hierarchy and asking questions about the things he is, has really been a fun journey for me (and will continue that way). 

However, it is rather disheartening that he consistently craps on one of the most famous and best movie monsters ever. Yes, it is pretty much cooked at this point, but all it needs is someone with passion to revive it. Someone who is willing to make sure that the characters are done well enough (Scott and company seem to focus on plot over characters and have a lot of big themes and questions to cover. No room for emotion) and treat the beast as more than... well, more than what Scott treats it as. The Disney comment, well, I agree. If there is one thing Disney is usually good at, it is securing box-office performances and maintaining vision. I could see it working out if Disney ever gets a deal done with Fox. 

I honeslty don't think I would really love Del Toro directing one, but Garland, hell yeah. 

I would support a Scified podcast! I recently started one (called Back Row: Movie News) with a friend, so I would definitely be down to listen to/watch a Scified podcast (and help in any way I can!)

DK - I agree that the beast is a killing machine with intelligence, but so were humans at one point in our progression.  And along that progression the lineage split.  There remained the impulsive killers, and then there were the producers and inventors.  I don't think we go there with the xeno, but is their only purpose to kill, and procreate to kill while staying simple and basic beasts?  Loaded question...I think it is, as I can't see them writing code and wrenching on chevy v8's, which kind of leads us to question "why".  That's the movie...Why would someone create something like that?  Take the xeno to it's logical end, the species would die as it exhausted all of its hosts.  Not perfect as Ash described.  Canon is a b!tch.

It's as if the beast is the embodiment of cancer, ebola or the like.  Just a means to an end - the big end.  But that flys in the face of the worship-like murals we see.  Do the elders worship destruction instead of life?  Is that their gift to the universe?  Without instigation, that  mindset typically is reserved to the  lower IQ crowd, so to speak.

And if it is a doomsday creature, I would argue that the neo is a better weapon.

Ha ha thats AVPGalaxy for you..... give them a sequel where David is not the creator of the Xenomorph, add Queens and lots Xenos, throw Ripley in and some Predators and happy days for them folk

Ha ha thats AVPGalaxy for you..... give them a sequel where David is not the creator of the Xenomorph, add Queens and lots Xenos, throw Ripley in and some Predators and happy days for them folk

"1- Ridley Scott cannot decree the xenomorph is dead and lacks the imagination to push the story forward."

I have to back RS on this one, RS is right we have over the years had Xenomorphs on screen, in games etc and ok the Disney Ride, also..  The Fact is the Xenomorph itself is no longer Scary, neither is Jason Voorhees and Freddy Krueger not as far as when you look them, its only the way you utilize them that makes them Scary.     Alien Isolation works because you are put in the Boots of a Character who is related to Ripley and there is a story build up here....   You are faced with ONE Xenomorph, and you are powerless against it, like the Nostromo Crew was and like the Fiorina "Fury" 161 Prisoners too.

If you took Alien Isolation,  upgraded Amanda to a Marine, give her Weapons she can kill the Xenomorph with, have her come up against Muiltple Xenomorphs and that Game would simply not be as Scary as it was, its the Peril that Amanda Faces that makes it Scary.   And so the Xenomorph has to be handled the same way, if we bring the Xenomorph back in great numbers, and the Queen and have them killed off by Humans then indeed the Beast would be cooked again...  The Xenomorph has some life left in it.... but you have to  be careful to not over expose the Xenomorph.... ALIEN Worked because you hardly ever saw the Beast.

I am 25 minutes in, and it appears these guys well the American really is against RS, saying he ran out of ideas, and the way the Xenomorph been used or lack of by RS is what they are blaming for the failings.

Yet they mentioned Blomkamp had great ideas to bring something NEW...?  Really?  All he would have done is simply Re-Introduce the Xenomorph via a Queen, it would have been more like a remake of Alien Resurrection...  Blomkamp had some good ideas, because it appeared he would have also shown us a different version of the Xenomorph, but Prometheus and Alien Covenant also did this with the Neomorph and Deacon....   And also Blomkamp had a neat idea about Engineer Technology and Merging it with Ripley.... this is something New.. But the most part Blomkamp would just gave us numerous Xenomorphs vs Ripley again.

I agree with Bigdave. I think Ridley should finish off his next film(s) and then start a new trilogy with fresh blood.