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MemberFacehuggerFebruary 22, 2018Did you guys see this about David not creating the Xenomorph but merely trying to emulate what was done in the past or had already existed? I love the idea, which is one that we had been discussing, but I wonder if this can be considered cannon or if it is what Ridley wants going forward?
http://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/news/alien-covenant-novel-reveals-david-didn-t-create-xenomorphs-995
Codexas: You can always throw the prequels away and pretend that they did not happen if they will end up crappy. Hopefully they will force Ridley to correct the most dumb idea namely that David created the Xeno so that will no longer be the case.
The Motes are just a sign of a those working on the story not having a great idea, not by one that they fully thought out... Alien Covenant does not really explain the Motes well enough, not as far as what we see in the Movie.
The Spores do appear to be tiny particles/organisms that enter the Host, were we can only assume they are somehow attracted to each other in a way that most of them merge and combine and this begins the development of the Neomorph.
When we see Davids Notes, and the concept works then indeed it appears this tiny insect like Organisms, are basically doing similar to what Spaights Nano-Scarabs are... only its implied this Nano-Mote Insects are injecting something into the Host that Ultimately develops into the Neomorph.
This is kind of Flawed in some Logical..... unless there is some kind of interaction between what ever these Motes inject so what ever is injected either joins up with the others.... or some signal or pheromone is sent once one starts to Develop into a Neomorph so that the other Motes do-not develop more Neomorphs.
Otherwise we have to then Question why does a Host not Produce Multiple Neomorphs.
Regarding DAVID my replies to these TWO Topics cover my interpretation of this direction.
http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47508&page=2
http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47518
I think some dont get what RS was intending with David as far as Prometheus and Alien Covenant and so some interpret that we have just a MAD ROBOT but in reality RS was trying to show us that David is MORE than a Robot.... Walter is a Robot... David had become a Sentient Intelligent Creation.... be that Synthetic and not Organic, bigger themes of Creation/Rebellion are at play and asking Questions about what constitutes Creation, After-Life and a Soul
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
There is hope that they can introduce something else into the Picture...
David Created this Xenomorph from the Engineers Black Goo... No Black Goo or Engineers and there would be NO Xenomorph... But also NO David and there is NO Xenomorph.
I think they need to introduce the Engineers or another Race above/below them, that has a Facination with the Xenomorph of Davids just like they did with the Deacon Mural in Prometheus... they See DAVIDS work as True POTENTIAL but not PERFECTION and so this Race then takes Davids Xenomorph and EVOLVES it.
Delving into the Reason for the Mural in Prometheus, by showing us why these beings want to Evolve Davids Creation.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
"Delving into the Reason for the Mural in Prometheus, by showing us why these beings want to Evolve Davids Creation."
I would like David's version to be another kind of monster but not the one that we see in the movie from 1979, that could save the prequels.
To a degree i would agree... certainly a lot of people are not pleased that David Created it.... it makes it less Alien and Unique...
However we have to remember the PREQUELS where never really intended to Answer the Xenomorph, not purely as it being about only this Organism.... it opened up a whole level above the Xenomorph which was just a Bio-Logical Experiment created from something Else and combined with the Engineers Nano-Creation/Hybrid Mutagen/Technology.
This holds TRUE for Alien Engineers and Prometheus, and Prometheus decided to tone down the Xenomorph and Explore the Creation and Rebellion and Philosophical Elements.
At this Present JUNCTURE they could indeed show us that David had NOT created the Original... If they did this, then it may save FACE for some fans regarding the Original... but it could make a Mockery of Davids Xenomorph and well the whole Process of the Prequels which DAVID is a large part of.
I see TWO ideal options..
1) Show that David has just Re-Created his own Xenomorph... but then we need to have him EVOLVE this Xenomorph to give us something of bit more of a threat, something different. Maybe Introduce the aspects that Ridley Scott had intended in ALIEN which is to make this BEAST Far more Intelligent than what we got to see in ALIEN and on-ward's... The Classic Xenomorph could be seen as a Perfect Killing Machine. But then show that Davids version actually gets evolved to be more than a Killing Machine, and thus showing that Davids Creation is actually much more than the Hierarchy of Creation above his was... So even if we start with the Engineers at the Top, these Mortals Created Mankind and the Xenomorph, then Mortal Mankind Creates the Synthetics like David and then its David who actually creates something much greater than the Engineers.
This leaves the Classic Xenomorph as Ancient, but then we have to ask WHY would Weyland Persue the Classic rather than Davids? For this we have to show the Company take a Great Interest in Davids Creation but in the END, we have to CLOSE THE DOOR on Davids Creation and LV-223 so that the company then discovers their is a source of a more Ancient Version thats Primitive that the Company could RE-ENGINEER to try and Replicate what David did, and REVEAL this as Special Order 937
2) Introduce the Engineers or those above them into the MIX and have them Pursue/EVOLVE Davids Creation to become the Classic Xenomorph. A Big Question we should be asking is WHY does the Black Goo Evolve LIFE into something related to the Xenomorph, and WHY were those Murals and Frescos for?
some element within the Engineer Society and Hierarchy had been conducting experiments to Create/Evolve something that certainly is connected to the XENOMORPH and Held this in VERY high Regard.
We need to show WHO/WHY had just a High Regard for the Mural, and then show us that these guys see Davids Xenomorph as a more Perfect Creation than what they was attempting... but then they see Davids Creation still needs some work.
Then its introducing a set of events from this that leads to the Classic Xenomorph and Derelict.
I CANT GUESS what route RS and those working with him have in mind... i just hope its something with Good imagination, that makes Davids Work on the Xenomorph... lesser than the route taken, but also does not dis-credit his work or the THEMES of Prometheus.
And i would CHALLENGE them to provide a more interesting route than the TWO i have outlined above ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017