Prometheus Deleted Scene

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As far as the original Engineers (Planet 4) versus the one in Prometheus. Maybe the originals created the ones in Prometheus to have them for different missions or purposes? I still think that those on Planet 4 are a bit underwhelming compared to the one in Prometheus but this makes kind of sense when you look at it in that way.

“Who the hell goes and picks up the storyboards, concept works, compares script versions and then watches a movie? Only few dedicated people :)” - Biodegradable

I am one of those nerds if it is a movie that I find interesting enough. This far it has only happened with Prometheus. Your point seems to be that it should be somewhat explained in the movies and I agree about that although some ambiguity is alright so for example everything wasn’t explained in Alien and many people do not seem to have a problem with that but then Alien is light-years ahead of both Prometheus and AC. My point is that there needs to be a balance and that can probably be difficult to find a lot of times.

About explanations that BD says they got to have some sort of plan about where they are going and how they are going to do that. Now it looks like they change it as they go along so for example first it was about the Engineers and then people complained so it became about David and then people complained again. If they would have had a plan from the start it might not have been as chaotic as it is now, that is my point but we have a tricky/crappy situation.

5-6 movies? With AC under-performing the way it did, putting the future of the franchise in doubt, plus his obsession with David he will be lucky if he will make another one. Sure there is a lot that you can show in the franchise the thing is it if it is needed. Probably not, I prefer to leave some things up to the imagination because that is what kept Alien alive for so long. By the way, keeping in mind of how the prequels have done this far I am not sure if I am interested.

“It seems that RS does-not see the Xenomorph as the main element of the Franchise”

I am not sure if I do either, I think that the human journey is more important that is why well done human characters is needed. Unfortunately the prequels have failed with this part and as a result neither of them is very good although there are parts that I enjoy. The thing with the Engineers and why they want to get rid of mankind is interesting but it is just that they have not made it very well this far also I am not very interested in the android part, leave that to another franchise because that is not why I watch these movies because I am interested in the human side of it.

The original three are my favorites, don’t eff that up because if Scott probably as a result of hubris does that then I would be very disappointed.

“This kind of MOVE would NOT go down well with most Alien Fans and would certainly be SHUNNED by Most.”

I would probably pretend that this movie never happened, he has done enough damage as it is.
“But also AC had been criticized quite a bit and Financially it was not a Good Success.”

And for some good reasons:

1. It had weak human characters (my main complaint) so you do not care about most of them. Who can feel something about blank faces? They were like pieces of paper where you have written some sentences, but for it to work you need at least a decent kind of book (a metaphor by the way). Alien 1-3 got this right but then they kind of forgot that we need well done human characters to care for so in that way it has been bad since at least 1997 (which is when they released AR).

2. Only cared about the robots (I think that there is a reason why the discussion between Walter and David is as good as it is because that is what Scott cares about, unfortunately). I need humans to care for, robots are not that interesting in the alien franchise although they have always been part of it. Sure Bishop and Ash were important to the story and I appreciate what they brought to the table but it was never about them, plus:

3. It got rid of the Engineers, a thing that could have been developed a lot more. I would have liked to see what they had as a society with military, religion, weapons, science and so on. Alien Covenant got rid of all this so we didn’t even get clues to it. This is probably the best thing that Prometheus gave us and they just got rid of that, a sign that they did not get the criticism of Prometheus.

I think that Scott and Fox kind of deserved it since a lot (not all) of the movie was lame.

The Xeno is not the most important thing for me because they have had interesting monsters this far. Look at the three point list above to see what I want to see changed.

I think that if they go on with the David-centricity then a lot of people (myself included) will probably not bother. That Scott doesn’t see that this is not the way to go is just not good. He have already given us crap with the idea that David created the Xeno at least they could go with the idea that ADF did that David created his own version from something that the Engineers left behind.

Finishing the prequels: I would rather have none than another one like Alien Covenant. I do not care about another movie where everything is focused on the robots and leaves everything else at second place or worse.

“But Ridley Scott felt that you have to go NEXT with what happens to David and Dr Shaw....”

The problem is that Shaw was not well written and you need more than an android to carry the movie. Maybe he understood the first thing (Shaw) but not the second (about David).

Two more or less underwhelming movies and here we are.

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Prometheus 2012 - Filling in the Story. Some Extra Bits - Ridley Scott - Alien