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Hello members of Scified,

It's been a while since I opened a discussion.
The Alien franchise is marked with this year an anniversary. 40 years ago, the first film in the series was released. With a potential TV series in production and other releases such as comic and book releases this year, I want to discuss with you the traits of the film franchise.
Maybe a look back at the franchise might give us a hint to whats coming.

- secondary characters don't survive
e.g. Newt, Hicks, E. Shaw, crew of the Nostromo and so on

- films show just glimpse of whats going on
e.g. Prometheus, Aliens, Alien

- films are made with a gap of several years

- new alien design with every film

- new alien life form with every film
e.g. Prometheus (Deacon, Hammerpede, Trilobyte), Alien Covenant (Neomorph, Baby Neomorph), Aliens (Alien Queen), Alien 3 (Alien Dog), Alien Resurrection (Hybrid)

- end of the films with scope for freedom

- new crew/ team with every film
e.g. marines, colonists, truckers, prisoners, ...

- new android type with every film
(Ash, Bishop, Call, David, Walter)

- repeating motives
(e.g. distress call, androids, strong female characters, haunted house setting)

Thinking about these traits over the last days, I think we can expect a sequel to Covenant. Fox's new films franchises like planet of the apes did come to an end two years ago and it is possible that the X-Men film might come to an end too. 

Regarding the sequel, I think it is very likely that we see a new crew, maybe a new android (or Walter) and different life forms again.
Even though Alien Covenant was not a huge financial success, the studio's revenue is made not only through the film itself, but over the years what is connected to it e.g. comics, books, dvd/blurays, ..

Please let me know in the comments, if you know more unique characteristics.

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1. Space Exploration

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2. Colonization and terra-forming

 

 

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3. Conquest 

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Nice Points NTFS

The Weyland Company and its achievements fit those 3 Points...

But ALIEN does seem to indicate fans would expect some ALIEN connection as in something NOT of this world... which was the Xenomorph.  I have said before we could have gone off say after Alien  3 and explored other ALIEN Races that are not CONNECTED to the Xenomorph but some Fans would not see this as a ALIEN movie...  a Visit to see the Arcturian Poontang Planet would have been seeing other Alien Species... which would make the ALIEN Tittle mean Mankind interacting and discovering Alien Life... and so just as the STAR in Star Trek means Searching for New Worlds and Life among the Stars, rather then Earth Treking!

But i think a Majority of Franchise Fans would feel there had to be a connection to the First Movie in context to the Xenomorph.

A Movie about Xenomorphs that follows the same Patterns/Tropes would get Repetitive...  not for some though..

But  this is when you can bring in the Mankind/Company Agenda to Exploit the Xenomorph, and then open up the possibilities of Reverse Engineering them and trying to exploit their Traits for Various Purposes, so it would not even need a Xenomorph...  but the ALIEN would come from Mankinds attempted use of the Xenomorph to create Hybrids/Horrors at a Great Hubris.

You could see such things had been attempted by the Engineers at a great cost to them.

When looking at ALIEN we also have to consider that the ALIEN element was the Derelict/Space Jockey too and WHAT IF those Eggs were just a Bio-Weapon Engineered by them? (as it was implied) then you have another LAYER to that ALIEN Cake and one that opened up a World of New Possibilities.

When we consider the Reveal of the Space Jockey Race and Plot, this is very fitting with the Themes you mentioned NTFS because this is something the Engineers had been doing for a VERY VERY Longtime..

3. Conquest 

Hits the Nail on the Head.... Conquest/Discovery can lead to Leaps in Evolution to Aid with the other TWO Traits.

The Discovery of ALIEN Technology would surely make Enormous Changes to HOW Mankind goes about those THREE TRAITS that you pointed out.

By exploring the Engineers, or then even any Race/Species connected to them, we still are connected to the Xenomorph, as opposed to say exploring a World of Arcturian's or say another Bug Species like Starship Troopers.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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There was an idea of plastic eating bacteria in this topic.

There may be worms, bark beetles, or fire ants that consume plastic based materials.

In the end plastic is an organic material and a hungry alien organism is not very picky when it is about its own survival.

Like this concept because it removes the immortality of androids. The infected androids will become severely dysfunctional. They need a complex and expensive repair after such infection.

In space androids do not last forever...

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< First AVP was a good adventure movie

Since when was the first AVP an adventure movie? It had the plot of a standard SYFY Original movie plot = your average B movie

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"The studio can produce large number of Alien tragedies as long as they create a meaningful story around this mystical even mythical creature."

I had put something maybe similar in my Origae-6 thread, which is to Ponder what Origae-6 would be like and what could happen next...

I pondered what if the World had Remnants of a Long Lost Civilization that had Disappeared MANY MANY Thousands of Years ago....   so the Covenant Colony discover some Ancient Ruins, and start to do some Archeological Digging.

They Discover Giants, and a Serpent, that could be some kind of Ancient Hammerpede like Organism.

Dr Huang

What a discovery, we have found who must have lived in those ruined buildings, look at the size of them.

Dr Philips

Certainly when Jacob had invested a lot of time on the vetting of this World, we would never had imagined it had been previously inhabited.

Walter

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to

Dr Philips

I never knew you was interested in Religious Quotations Walter, indeed it appears we have found evidence of such Giants.

Walter

This was something Dr Shaw was interested in

Dr Philips

Who?

Dr Huang

She was a fellow Archeologist, she had studied the connection of Archeological Evidence and how it connected to possible Extra Terrestrials being the influence for our Myths and Religions.

I never knew that you had a interest in her work Walter.

Dr Philips

I wonder what this Giant Serpent was.

Walter

We have sinned, because we have spoken against the LORD and you; intercede with the LORD, that He may remove the serpents from us.

Dr Huang

SMILES at Walter

I doubt this was any kind of Punishment

Walter

well the Gods dont take too kindly on rebellion and betrayal

Dr Philips

This other Skeleton seems to have its Rib cage broken, likely from some Internal Trauma

Walter

The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. They have venom like the venom of a serpent; Like a deaf cobra that stops up its ear,

Dr Phillips

What do you mean by that?

Walter

Maybe their Blood is Tainted, a Poison running inside, born of wickedness and so wickedness shall be born from them.

After they Uncover Skeletal Remains of this Serpent, they do latter Discover a Alive One!

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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