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Aliens Mistake Discovered, pointed out by BlackAnt

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BlackAnt pointed out a detail about Aliens I had never noticed. The problem is that the injury is inconsistent with the scene. First, the iconic scene:

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Here is the issue. The knife blade game was played with palms and fingers down:

But we see Bishop's injury was on the opposite side of his finger that was on the table surface:

That's what I like about this Forum. Sometimes we can see things decades later that we didn't notice before. Thanks, BlackAnt.

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Kongzilla
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Overthinking. This is common in films - just another movie blooper. It doesn't give us new information about androids or anything else.

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 Ah yes,

o v e r t h i n k i n g

i've officially left. thanks for the memories!
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Somebody: Points out the mistake in Aliens (1986)

Aliens fans:

"Abs are not a sign of power, it's just a sign you don't eat enough."-JF Caron

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@Dark Nebula

This is not some ordinary mistake.....please read the Alien: Vengeance topic http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/49910

So you can understand that this is not a movie blooper.....I believe the cut is on the right side of the finger where Bishop slips with the knife.

Synthetics such as Bishop are not capable of making those kinds of errors in fine motor skills....has to be a deeper programming issue....but please read the topic and see why we are really discussing this before you make these daft statements.......@Leto you just enjoy saying the first thing that comes to mind too don't you....daaaafffft!!!! LOL

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Hm...I do think it would be possible to graze the side of one's finger in that position. 

And, I also think this scene was intended to show that while synthetics are more dexterous and precise than humans, they're still fallible. 

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Another thing to Consider is we have a HUMAN HAND that is under Bishop.... any Slight Movement by Hudson by even the Slightest could also move Bishops Hand above by the Slightest amount that could Account for a Error/Wound.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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@BigDave

Good point. I'm blaming Hudson for a) goading Bishop into playing the knife game in the first place, and then b) getting him injured with his panicky inability to keep still. 

In conclusion, Bishop is awesome and Hudson needs to chill. 

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It's easy to read a lot into this decades later, and I will continue! 

Although Hudson goaded Bishop, Drake grabbed Hudson's wrist and Bishop did not pause, seeming to quickly read Drake's intent. Bishop simply said, "Yes- YOU!" That almost seems like a form of passive aggression- a human trait.

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Yes! Do let's continue! 

Hmm, just re-watched the scene. Isn't it Drake that says "Yeah you."? And then Bishop says "Trust me." 

Well, regardless, Bishop going through with it DOES seem passive aggressive!

And I too would be passive aggressive towards people trying to put my safety at risk for their amusement.

Aggression (passive or otherwise) is also a protective/self preservation measure. Bishop's actions will likely deter Hudson and others from trying to goad him into doing the knife thing in the future! 

(Humans have been well programmed by evolution for survival, and Bishop's programmers have done well to synthesize similar traits.) 

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VivisectedEngineer You are correct- it was Drake.

It is also interesting that the crew was all in for the entertainment and was not bothered when Bishop's identity was revealed. It only bothered Ellen. It was a different story with Alien.

Someone should do a similar topic about Call. 

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BlackAnt 

Your contributions to the forum are insightful and engaging, but please refrain from attacking other members as per community guidelines. I've noticed several such posts on various threads. 

Belittling community members is not constructive. Attack the argument, but no personal attacks please.

Cheers 

IR

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Ahhhhhh mutiny against the obvious now! is that how it's going to be? Well well well and there be the ends of the democracy and freedom we all thought was right and just throughout all the lands, LOL.

I suppose next we won't be able to say those certain words that upset the king.......

No I am afraid I disagree le capitaine!!! The knife nor Hick's hand did not slip - but we now know there is no real freedom to disagree (with you know who_______) that it might have......or it be the digital prison me thinks!!! No I did not mention any names of course! No no no....no names were mentioned here!
Nor down here either.....or over -------> here......

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Mate I suggest you read the Guidelines of which you accepted to adhere to when you registered, and stow the attitude. 

Its pretty simple. Just show Respect to other members. You have a right to disagree and debate an opinion, that's fine, but insulting or degrading others is not on. You can call me the fun-police or the mutineer all you want, but I will defend our members rights not to be put down. We're here to get away from all that crap and just discuss a topic we all have in common.

Stay Frosty

 

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 I Raptus is right, we need to find a way to get along and disagree respectfully. 

...Maybe we need some kind of team building activity or something. Perhaps an escape room! (With an ovomorph in the center of the room for good measure. It's perfectly safe, I assure you... The countdown is on!) 

(And, as Bishop has demonstrated, the knife blade game makes another viable option for a game of trust among colleagues.

...Really we could do a whole Alien themed office Olympics here.) 

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Or just do as Burke suggested- build a fire and sing a couple songs.

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Outstanding. all we need now is a deck of cards :)

VivisectedEngineer I like your idea of a team-building activity. We need to do that group video!

But Perhaps some trust falls in an egg-room too lol 

 

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@I Raptus

Oh yes! The group video! I'm still down for that! (Although, Now I kind of wish I'd done it three years ago, before I'd aged by about ten years in that time...)

Hey! We could take some inspiration from all those quarantine videos people have been making! You know, like, the ones where one person throws something off screen and the next person appears to catch it?

We could throw a facehugger around at each other lol. 

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@dk

"Someone should do a similar topic about Call."

Oh yeah, that would be interesting! I need to go back and rewatch Resurrection first. (This is my last week of summer vacation and I'm trying to rewatch all my favorite Alien movies)

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"It is also interesting that the crew was all in for the entertainment and was not bothered when Bishop's identity was revealed."

 

There's nothing to reveal.  They all knew he was a robot.  He was originally supposed to be awake on the ship while they slept and handed out towels like a valet after they woke up.

 

As to the original post - not seeing a mistake.  Every machine can develop faults.

 

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