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Is the boy genius supposed to be Elon Musk?

Thank you Neomorph for the timeline. Now for more of my next questions: If the xenomorphs and other creatures were already on Earth, why didn't anyone know about them? Why was Ripley's crew sent to that planet when the company already knew about those creatures? Who was that astronaut they discoverd and why did he have eggs in his ship? How did Ripley know he wasn't from that planet? What about the predators hunting expedition with the xenomorphs down in the ground underneath the pyramid? I wish they would just tie all the movies together. I have a gazillion questions and I would enjoy the movies and tv show more if they wer answered.

Previously I would have said this: AVP doesn't exist in the same continuity as Alien now largely due to Prometheus. With Predator Badlands now...who knows. I'd still say avp doesn't count towards Alien. Continuity in Alien is fickle. Romulus made sure Scott's prequels mattered but Noah Hawley wants nothing to do with them. There was nothing explicit in the first two Earth episodes that made Prometheus and Covenant obsolete but there was this promo video from Yutani that said the Maginot's mission has been active for 65 years meaning well before Prometheus...which just doesn't match with Prometheus. But it also seems she's in Control of WY almost as if there's no Weyland around to run the company.                                             Hell it seems Alien 3 and Resurrection are largely ignored by recent games, books and comics. Neomorph is right, loads of contradictions already exist. 

Closest to an actual canon comes from the Alien rpg. The guy that runs it separates Alien, predator, and AVP into three separate continuities. Here's a link

check this.                                                                                                                     This image is also helpful 

Ultimately canon is what you make it in my opinion. Some people consider Colonial Marines canon. It's not but you absolutely can if you care about it. Don't care about Alien 3? By all means consider William Gibson's Alien 3 your canon 3. It has a graphic novel, book, and Audio drama now. And yes if you consider AVP canon by all means do so

I honestly don't recall. I'm 35 years old. I grew up with Alien in the 90's with Kenner figures. Aliens was always a rental fave along with Star Wars. If we'd rent Alien I'd always want to rent Aliens even if we just rented it. I'd refer to Aliens as the "first one" because I'm certain it was the first one I saw. I remember getting the blue Kenner Warrior Alien which I still have and the guy checking us out at Kmart said where were these when he was a kid.                                                                                                                     I remember the first time i knew about Alien Resurrection was seeing the novelization at an Albertsons. I had seen all three movies and knew Ripley died. I then got to see Alien Resurrection in theaters at 7 years old. My first R rated movie in theaters followed close by Starship Troopers lol. The 90s were different. 27 year old me was flagged for ID when I saw Alien Covenant opening weekend because I looked young. Times have changed for sure. I've seen every Alien movie in theaters since Resurrection except for AVP Requiem. Was there for AVP opening weekend at 14. Saw Prometheus a month late at 22. Covenant opening weekend at 27 (already mentioned i know) and Romulus opening day at 34. Finally got to see ALIEN on the big screen last year too for its 45th(!) Anniversary. Hoping Aliens goes back to theaters next year for it's 40th and you can guarantee I'll be there. It's my favorite movie in my favorite franchise.                                                                                                                     I still play every game, read comics (though I just can't anymore with the current Marvel entries) and finally getting caught up with the Titan novels.                                                    I'll just quote Ripley on this one "You've been in my life so I can't remember anything else."

I think the Xeno's belly looks a lot like the pattern on the belly of a Tarantula.

Always fun watching new generation coming with their theories decades later only to be totally debunked.

Avp is not the same universe as Alien franchise and Blade Runner and Alien are NOT same universe regardless how much you want it to be that way no matter how many connections you think you're making, you're being fooled by Easter Eggs left by an  Easter Hare, Juan.

I wonder if they are aiming for a more light-hearted approach for this show, as compared to those Alien films. The tone and tempo somewhat gives me Alien Resurrection vibe.

Yeah, I get Resurrection vibes as well. Not sure it’s intentional, given the pre-release interviews and sentiments but who knows.

Would it be possible to only log on one time and skip to other forums? Every time I want to respond or change my picture, I have to log in. My computer is old and it adds letters at the end that I don't type in. It's so messed up and is hard enough just to log in once.

Funny you mention this - YES! I am currently working on a SSO (Single Sign On) functionality across all of our hosted communities. It’s quite an intricate system to build and security is a top priority. But the short answer is - yes this is coming - and soon! Been working on it behind the scenes for some time now. 😎

Very true, we don’t really understand how Xenomorphs communicate, except for their Hive Mind connection. It’s very possible she’s able to tap into a form of sonar, I pray the explanation is an interesting and thought provoking one when it’s finally revealed. 😂

Hm I still can't edit my posts.Message: "You are not an author of this post and do not have permission to edit this."I’m in the process of fixing this, the function had been removed for members way back when we had a few bad apples go and edit all their existing posts with random garbage. I’ll allow the edits back shortly with better safeguards. Hoping to have it finished very soon!

I understand, thanks for the info! 

Don't think about "logic" too much as there are already contradicting factors in the timeline. 

Maybe the upcoming episodes will shed more light on this. This is something I could definitely imagine Ripley 8 doing as she was a human xeno hybrid after all. Wendy is an android/synth whatever though so someone might've programmed her auditory sensors or "sonar" if you will to pick up a wider array of echoing wavelengths than any human could possibly detect. Not necessarily for the purpose of hearing xenos but maybe that's one of her unknown traits.

I wonder if they are aiming for a more light-hearted approach for this show, as compared to those Alien films. The tone and tempo somewhat gives me Alien Resurrection vibe. 

Would it be possible to only log on one time and skip to other forums? Every time I want to respond or change my picture, I have to log in. My computer is old and it adds letters at the end that I don't type in. It's so messed up and is hard enough just to log in once.

@Love SciFi; A singular login for the whole site is being worked on! Also, I am getting extra letters as well, Chris is aware of the issue and is working to resolve it.

Would it be possible to only log on one time and skip to other forums? Every time I want to respond or change my picture, I have to log in. My computer is old and it adds letters at the end that I don't type in. It's so messed up and is hard enough just to log in once.

Is he an android like the one in Alien?

No, Morrow is a Cyborg - slightly different machine than the Synthetic Android seen in Alien and the rest of the films. 

how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible lol

I do enjoy the Xenomorph kill shots, the attack on the soldier outside the costume party was my personal favorite so far. The attacks are vicious as they should be and I applaud the show for keeping the Xenomorph aggressive and bloodthirsty. It certainly balances things out and keeps me eager to watch the next episode.

Hm I still can't edit my posts.Message: "You are not an author of this post and do not have permission to edit this."

I’m in the process of fixing this, the function had been removed for members way back when we had a few bad apples go and edit all their existing posts with random garbage. I’ll allow the edits back shortly with better safeguards. Hoping to have it finished very soon!

Agree somewhat. I couldn't find it but I recall a topic here years back where I mentioned Tool is a good match for Alien but hearing them in the show is different than saying they have the same vibe

Perhaps if the timing was chosen differently it would work better. Like make it part of a montage for marines gearing up or some assembling shot. It comes off corny to me to have a rock-laced intro to a climactic duel with a Xenomorph and a stand-alone child-brained robot wielding a paper cutter as a sword. I’m all for taking risks and trying something new but I feel like they could’ve matched the music selection better with the specific scene it’s used for. Maybe it’s a Television thing, who knows 😂 or maybe I’m just getting older and more opinionated. Lol

Agree somewhat. I couldn't find it but I recall a topic here years back where I mentioned Tool is a good match for Alien but hearing them in the show is different than saying they have the same vibe

how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible lol. They are indeed, and one of the few things I like about the series, especially the xenomorph. It's ultra vicious, lightning quick and the VFX crew and sound designer/s did a great job with the animations and heavy thumping sound effects respectively. 

Because, that's not what I really liked about Alien, I liked the slow burn and psychological horror in Alien, not over the top gore. Also, I much prefer the Androids over the Xeno, I have for sometime. My biggest issue with this series is the two storylines don't seem to mesh well, imo. Feels like there's here's a disconnect. This amount of killing reminds me more of AVP, which isn't my fave, though I am looking forward to Predator: Badlands (because of the Androids, lol). Ironically, I enjoyed Alien Romulus more than this series so far (and before you say it, yes I know AR is violent).

Anyways, I don't hate the show, I have only seen 2 episodes, but right now the series is only a 6 or 7 out of 10 for me.

Wait the Engineers wanted to prevent A.I. technology from developing on Earth back during the Iron Age? That doesn't make a lick of sense.

Not necessarily by OUR timeline, we have no idea if Mankind has cyclically repeated the same destiny over and over and over again. Civilizations have risen and fallen many times over. Who’s to say the Engineers already wiped out the last few batches of Humans once they reached that critical point in development where they could develop an A.I. to overtake the other biological dependent species in the universe. But cause of the outbreak on LV-223, the Engineers “slept through their alarm” and missed their mission to destroy this batch of Humanity. It could make sense!

Potentially old tech arguments, but the Cyborg seems quite advanced compared to the David 8 model developed 35 years AFTER the Maginot left Earth. You would think David would have been an advanced Cyborg as well if it was the “tech of the day”. This is why continuity matters and why I’m sad continuity doesn’t seem to matter for this series. 😔

I wonder how it will pan out… the teaser suggests the egg is opening which means Facehugger soon to follow, but Boy is a pivotal character so I have a feeling Kirsh steps in to prevent him from becoming the next host.

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how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible lol

They are indeed, and one of the few things I like about the series, especially the xenomorph. It's ultra vicious, lightning quick and the VFX crew and sound designer/s did a great job with the animations and heavy thumping sound effects respectively. Not a fan of the practical version though but that could've been fixed with shadows, more gloss and slime I guess. It reminds me of the runner from A3. 

The eye absorbing jellyfish thing was creepy but it's only there for quick shock value like those grasshopper things, unless they flesh them out with some backstory expeditions.

how could you guys not loving the show. The chasing and killing scenes are all incredible lol

Why is Peter Pan all over the place in this series? We already know the boy genius will never grow up. Wendy was very, very special according to him. The youth must have amazing strength now or they would not have been sent to the ship.

My computer is acting up and it was supposed to read just Alien, not rnAlien. Tried to edit but the program said I don't have permission????

I really hope that if there is an alien 5, it would ignore the events of alien 3 and resurrection

I hated the movie where Ripley was a thing and fell into a womb. It was yucky as hell. I wish they would  bring back Hicks and Ripley as a couple. I would love it if they tied the other movies together somehow. In rnAlien, the 2 different planets confused me, the alien who had his chest rnblown out confused me. Was he the only one and where was the xenomorph rnthat exploded out of his chest? Too many unanswered questions stating with the first movie, Alien. 

There are a couple of other directors and writers responsible for the other episodes so fingers crossed it'll be a bit different ahead. It may need a shove in another direction for change, switch tracks and let's see what happens. Just give me one or two memorable episodes at least 😆🙏

I have watched both episodes three times and honestly, I think i'm going through the stages of grief over this series. Currently, i'm in denial... Thank god for Timothy Olyphant is all i'll say, Kirsh is my fave character, along with Morrow. All the actors are good, imo. I really enjoyed the Xenomorph, some people didn't like it, but I thought the movements it did were great, the actor that was in the suit is incredible.

It's not terrible, but so far I am underwhelmed to say the least. I'll try and keep an open mind and enjoy the rest of the episodes but to me something is off and I can't explain it, it's like "Temu Alien", if that makes any sense. I subbed to Disney+ to watch and support the show, *cries*. Oh well, at least I can enjoy the other Alien movies there, lol.

It's probably just the old tech they used before switching to Androids, the Maginot was sent away 65 year ago. Obviously, at the end of the series, they're just going to say Weyland-Yutani won the corporate war and these other companies got bought out or dissolved, failed, whatever.

I just finished Ep.2. Holy cow it is so good. The Party scene is so mad lol.

​I love also the siblings reunion. Both characters are fantastic and they are so going to protect each other. 

ALIEN EARTH is going to be a hell of a freak show. 

I'm really curious to learn more about the engineers—who they are, how they lived, and how they fit into the bigger picture.

Is he an android like the one in Alien?

When I saw Alien, I was 15 years old and it was 1982. That's when I wanted an explanation above all else. And when I saw Aliens, I was excited at first. Hooray for action, combat, explanation. That's what the success of Aliens is based on. JC knew exactly what he was doing.rnBut as the years went by, I, who loved Alien despite my initial enthusiasm, suddenly understood the tragedy that Aliens caused for the original Alien.rnRS quite deliberately left out the explanation. Alien is a de facto gothic horror film. Humans have no chance of survival, although they don't know it at first. The audience doesn't know why or what it's all about. And that's the amazing thing.rnThere's a spaceship. Who built it? When was it built? We'll never know. There's a dead pilot. Something killed him from the inside. No other crew. The next storyline will explain why. If Nostromo hadn't taken off, the situation would have repeated itself. A dead body with bones outside and no one around.rnNow that I think about it in the discussion, it's better that Alien didn't include the scene with Dallas and Brett's cocoons. It left a mystery. By the way, the alien ship wasn't carrying eggs. Kane clearly says "It's a cave, hot as the tropics". So the alien ship landed over the egg cave instead of the pyramid.rnIt's a good thing there were no hints. It remained a mystery. I think Ripley's words "they probably wanted the monster for the armaments factory" is a deliberate hoax. The command in the Mother is not to fly to a specific planet. It's a command to investigate ANY source of intelligent life and import a sample. Unfortunately, Aliens uses this phrase to build a story to confuse the viewer.rnAlien is a polished gem, and anything extra already cancels it out. Even the cocoon scene. The goal is total mystery. No hint of explanation.rnThere's a similar case in the history of literature. E A Poe and his book on A G Pym. The hero reaches the South Seas at a time when the existence or size of Antarctica was unknown. And when the mystical atmosphere is at its peak a giant white glowing figure appears and the book ends. That's all we learn.rnJules Verne did not understand this Poe's idea of deliberately not revealing the point or wanted to capitalize on it and wrote the novel The Ice Sphinx where the expedition to Antarctica explains everything. The death of Pym, making a mystical figure into an ice stump looking like a sphinx, etc. Someone was happy and the explanation.rnBack to RS. The creation of Prometheus and Covenant were his biggest failures. He decided to suppress the other movies of the original Alien and shattered the mythology with more nonsense than one would expect. He got tangled up in his own thoughts and got stuck in them.rnYes, Aliens was the gateway to the creation of the Alien universe. Hence the many video games, comics and various sequels, etc. For me, Alien will always remain as a one-off. Untouchable. Mount Everest. And everything around it whether Aliens , , Alien 3, AvP or Covenant are just avalanches that have fallen from its slopes. The mountain would remain a mountain even if a thousand avalanches fell from it.rnAll the attempts to figure out "how it was" are the acts of children who want to know more and so they make stuff up. Fabulating. Usually to their own detriment  rn1) Where did the eggs come from in the cave? We don't know.2) why and where did the alien ship come from? We don't know. 3) Was the Alien intelligent or was it driven by perfect instincts? We don't know.rnThe sad thing is, after Scott built such a perfect structure, he joined the others who tried to destroy it for money. To no avail. In this, Alien is truly indestructible and has infected countless writers and audiences even without eggs. And it remains what it was meant to be. A mystery.

I'm still completely baffled by the movies and really wish they would rnfind a way to connect them all with some clear explanations. It would bern great to finally make sense of everything.

It's not just you, the music completely took me out of both episodes, just ruined the vibe. I think i'm going through the stages of grief over this series, so far I am underwhelmed to say the least. Currently, i'm in denial... Honestly, Romulus is a masterpiece compared to this.I guess everyone praising the series never actually watched an ALIEN film 😂 showing the beast in all its glory in the first few frames and transitioning with guitar / rock music is NOT on brand for the franchise. The music should be eerie, somewhat nonexistent at tense moments. Alien: Covenant did a much better job and even Romulus too for matching soundtrack with source material. Alien: Earth has some making up to do.

Not a fan of the music either.