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Well i have to ask where did those concepts come from?

I have never ever seen those thanks for the share ;)

If these are Legit concepts then its interesting, because the Source claimed the Engineers Power/Forbidden Fire came from a Dark Obelisk that was neither Rock/Metal and it was kind of growing from the ground (with roots) and at the Center it glowed Green... They alluded to the Engineers Stealing a Shard/Shards of this.

Those concepts certainly would appear to add up to this.  They also did say Paradise has some Giger Aesthetic but a lot of the buildings were like Ancient Egypt Monuments and Babylonian  Ziggurat's but some also had a Ancient Rome and  Jerusalem look to them.    The Obelisk i remember they claimed was about 20-25 Meters Tall.

I love to imagine to whom the Engineers answer to. The images above Ati and BigDave are credible as to who is in charge of the Engineers we have seen so far (LV-223, Planet 4). Carlos Huante should be certainly be consulted. 

"I can totally buy the hidden Agenda, and Conspiracy and with the Plot Inconsistencies the Prequels open up, it means at some point after these movies that a Cover up and Conspiracy is at play (i think big reveal that AI is running the show)."

Yes it is nice to debate and especially with you BigDave. 

As to the AI running the show...I believe you're correct in overall operations at Weyland-Yutani Corporation. 

I think with Disney we cant expect anything more than Alien Covenant showed with Dr Shaw's Body, maybe not even that.

Ridley Scott as far as i am aware has never claimed he hates the Queen, he has actually said it makes sense and it was a good Monster, but its not the idea he would have carried forwards.  So he had a different idea than the way Camerons Queen and Hive and Bugs went.

He could have been playing Face though... so his real feelings may be different, i would have thought Ridley Scott would not take a Queen route, but then Alien Covenant has proposed this..  But i think Ridley Scotts idea would certainly not be that David using Daniels or anyone else will lead to a Queen Xenomorph as we see in ALIENS

I think RS will take us down either the Evolved Daniels into something else route, or have it where at least we see her Egg Cells being Harvested for Davids Experiments.  The Question is which?

I think enough clues had been shown that David had used Dr Shaw's Reproductive Organs to Perfect his Creation,  and the extras has hinted that David wanted to Evolve Dr Shaw but she refused.   So maybe we cant rule out some kind of Daniels Hybrid?

Dane Hallet had made some varied concepts for Dr Shaw, and i would not be surprised if we see a Hybrid that would be like a cross between SIL from Species mixed with say a Neomorph.

Critters5

It's not Disney, it's to respect O'Bannon (as he was a feminist way before it made money), as Ridley said with Rosenthal.  In all Aliens, how many female chestbursters did you have? 2 (one in Aliens, one in Res.) and 1/2 (depending which Alien 3 you watch)?

Ps. in my previous comment categories should be replaced by characters. 

red0guy I agree that they would likely not show female experimentation which is why especially with Disney these movies never have the effect which they have the potential for. 

I don't understand why use the title "Queen of Venus" in a David movie, only thing which makes in a fall of David movie is the queen of Barsheeba.

And very realistically:

1. I don't think you will every see woman being experimenting upon on screen, as you did not see them dying. To respect O'Bannon.

2. Killing central categories before the last movie in a trilogy is stupid and will probably not happen.

Critters5

Ridley hates that queen, so no, Daniels will never become that thing.

Very interesting theories...

My TWO Cents... was the Engineers maybe Engineered themselves past Reproduction, they had to go the Sacrificial Route to Seed their DNA,  i wonder if the Agenda was that this route could maybe lead to a Female down the line, they could Procreate With?

Yes, this is the big issue: why did the Engineers need to seed worlds with their DNA ? Maybe they can't reproduce, like you said, so they try to find a way to finally "procreate". But in Covenant, we discover a planet full of Engineers (even if I still believe they are not), so they are NOT so in extinction... That's why I am not sure they seed worlds to SAVE their race (or civilization). 

Thats how years ago i interpreted the LV-223 Experiments, i was also open to maybe the Engineers had been Punished and a Pathogen or Organism (Bio-Weapon) had been used against those Fallen Engineers, but the results of this Punishment, did not kill them all, but then allowed them to Re-Weaponize the Bio-Weapon.

Yes, that is what I was thinking too. That the Engineers on LV-223 could have been punished for some reasons (too much Hubris for having played with genetic?). I thought this poster could represents this event (judgment day) :

This could explains the part in Prometheus when the crew activates the control board and see many Engineers running for their lives, after having heard what seems to be a deacon roar. And then the amount of bodies chest bursted in front of the door. But the question is : who punished them ? The Elders ? Their creators we haven't seen yet ? 

But then it could still be open for the first theory.... in that the Engineers had Evolved themselves past Procreation and the Planet 4 Engineers was the result of finally creating a Humanoid Female they could Procreate with to give us those Planet 4 Engineers.

Yes interesting, as we clearly see some Engineers who could be female here... But I am convinced that those Engineers are only a sub race of them, like we are as humans. They are another DNA test on another planet and are still "in development", as we can see with the docking station and the hole opening in the ground when the Juggernauth arrives that Engineers used to come see them time to time. They are also waving at them, not suprised to see them. That could be explained by Engineers helping them in some ways in the past.  There is also no technology at all on this planet, except docking station which contrast a lot with what we see in Prometheus (in the spaceship). Well, I read all your theories on this, with the explanations on the statues etc, and it was really interesting and somehow, goes in the way they are just a sub race of Engineers. 

These idea i had years and years ago....  so my interpretation of Prometheus was these Engineers (which ever explanation from the TWO is why they cant Procreate) had at some point came into contact with something that infected one of their kind, that lead them to GIVE BIRTH to a Deacon (or its Ancestor) , the Engineers became Fascinated with this Organism, as it allowed them to Create Life by giving Birth something they ONCE could but no longer could, or something they could never but their CREATORS Could.

They began experimenting with this Organism, creating various kinds (like David was doing on Planet 4) until they had achieved the Mural Deacon, then they chosen to use its DNA to seed Worlds, as they saw the Deacon as being more Perfect than Engineer DNA.   So they Sacrificed the Deacons with the Sacrificial Substance and the resulting broken down Genetic Soup was collected and stored in those ampoules within the URNS.

This is for me the most interesting mystery in Prometheus : all the content is the ampoule chamber (murals, disposition of the canisters, the big head, the green crystal). I agree with you that they dealt with the deacon somehow in the past, but we don't know what this deacon does really and why the Engineers seem to worship it. But on top of that, I was really intrigated by the green crystal. It leds on the podium as it is the most important item of the room.... but no infos on it ? That is VERY strange. I found some old concept arts that are very strange also, as none of them got in the final version of the movie. Here they are :

We can see some kind of green crystal on each of these concepts. The crystal is like "jailed" in the center of a big room. All the ways seem to lead to this crystal.

Even more interesting, we have here a close up concept of the crystal, with this time "something" inside. Something which seems to be living :

We can see again the green color, as the Prometheus Crystal. And what is inside seems to be interesting enough that the crew decided to open the jail to take away what is inside :

We can see some stuff sticked on the rock so they have made some tests / analysis on it, lights all around the site so the crew knew they will be here for some times. And finally, but this is my interpretation, we kind of feel "pain" on the rock, as the crew is cutting off : inside the rock, it seems to have something living (an eye floating in some liquid ?). When cut off, the eye seems to have some pain and closes :

But well that could be far-fetched.

A last concept arts that confirms, on my mind, that they wanted to be this thing to be organic :

Well... I think they planned a lot more for this green crystal but for some reasons they cut off all this part of exploration. My theroy is that this living thing could be an entity the Engineers found somewhere on a mysterious planet. This entity is jailed in a rock prison, floating in a kind of liquid keeping it alive. Then the crew, after some tests, found there is a living thing jailed here and tried to free it. And then who know what is happening ? I think this living thing is able to give the Engineers the base material to create the goo.  This is why some of the concept show this thing in a big room filled with some green/black water. This could be the non-raffined goo extracted from this living entity. Then this "primal goo" is raffined with a complex processus that explain the whole structure of the pyramid. This concept art could explain this process :

As we have a shit load of canisters full of goo, in only one juggernauth (and they are many on LV-223), we should supposed that the goo has been produced in industrial quantity. 

What do you think of this theory ? I think it has been discussed in the past as well, sorry for if so.

BigDave, Gavin Great minds think alike! :-)

BigDave great idea about the infected ocean! I think JC would really go for this....maybe with an environmental angle..."See! This is what will happen to Earths oceans if we don't protect them!!" - James Cameron Alien 5/Antar 2020

Do you think Daniels could end up being the actual queen from Alien 2? Surviving the Derelict crash.

Indeed its certainly interesting to see the various connections that encompass various Ancient Mythos that can tie into the Prometheus Plot, it was never a case of the Biblical Accounts and so there are many loose connections that would fit in with the Engineers for sure.

As i mentioned Earlier the Flute played a role in a lot of Ancient Mythos, and indeed Krishna is just one example.

I think the potential for a Black Goo Discovery rather than Eggs would be interesting though, as you can imagine the impact and monstrosity of a finding of a Juggernaught and its Cargo Infecting the Ocean.

Xeno-Sharks Hybrids,  Trilobite/Octopus etc.

I think both ideas are interesting...  Certainly a Underwater Juggernaught is interesting.

I would be tempted to go further....  what if Earth had a Ancient Engineer Outpost, at the Dawn of the Creation of Mankind, when we had been evolved into Early Man...  what if this Ancient City was revealed to be very like the Engineers City on Planet 4?

But then reveal this City on Earth is discovered in the future, and so Mankind Finally find ATLANTIS what they discover is a Ancient Underwater City in ruins, covered in time by coral and other sediment and oceanic life.  Much like some of the lost underwater towns/cities in Italy

Imagine more derelict than this though and the Statues of Engineers, and this place has a Hanger, like in Alien Covenant.  Where the Explorers then uncover a Juggernaught.

This is one idea i had pondered with a while back too...

But this could work with Monster Zeroes idea, where instead we come to some Planet that once had a Engineer Civilization, so like Planet 4 but has been underwater for many thousands of years, i think such a Plot could work.

I think a Alien: Atlantis Title would be a little to on the nose though lol but revealing a the Plot as Project Atlantis would work or in Monster Zero's case, the First Mission was Project Atlantis and his Plot is set on another Mission to discover the disappearance of Project Atlantis maybe?

Prior to any news with Alien Covenant, i had some information from a supposed Source regarding Paglen/Greens Prometheus 2, back in February 2015, based of a Draft from October 2014 and Concept works November 2014.

They claimed the Movie would have TWO Monsters, both different yet both similar to the Xenomorph DNA.   But the clues regarding Dr Shaws fate was interesting.

They claimed Dr Shaw plays a Small, but Pivotal Role,  David wishes to Create and play God, and in order to Re-Create It (Xenomorph/Deacon) all you need was Knowledge and Tools and David has both.  And that David Creates One of the Monsters in the movie (when they say TWO Monsters they mean TWO kinds).  They said Dr Shaw is incapacitated for the most part, that Mankind/Humans play a bigger role in the Xenomorph than the Engineers.   They said that concepts have a Human (they are vague) connected to a Bio-Mechanical Looking Device, like some of HR Gigers works, and its like the Robot Girl from Superman 3 but with a Giger Atheistic Twist.

They added that in context to Paradise Lost (Poem), without Sin (i assume Satans Daughter) there would be NO Xenomorph.  Now Satans Daughter is a Hybrid Human/Serpent who is incapacitated as she is constantly in Labor giving birth to the Serpentine Hounds of Hell.

All very interesting but to be taken with a grain of Salt...

But fast forwards to after Alien Covenant and the clues and looking at various concept works, it appears indeed the Source was basically describing what potential had been done with Dr Shaw.

I wonder if David would continue to do the same with Daniels?

As you must be aware, Prometheus had lot of allegories to religion/mythology,

In the Original draft (Alien: Engineers by John Spaihts), the Juggernaut was compared to Krishna's (Indian God) Wheel by David.  

Guess what's the musical instrument played by Krishna?  Its the Flute. 

There are lot of interesting articles you'll find on the net about Krishna's Flute, its meaning and why he plays it. 

That's the closest thing that comes to my mind about the Flute being in the movie.

Interestingly, 

The concept of 'Destroy in order to create' is very much of Lord Shiva's (Another Indian God) 'Tandava' Dance. 

Likewise, the Elephantine suit of the Engineers could be compared to Lord Ganesha (Elephant God). 

I think its left a bit open to how David Creates Thousands of Eggs, on one hand we had the Covenant and its thousands of Colonist and Embryos so if those are all Human then we looking at about 3000 or so Hosts.

But then what kind of movie would it be if David uses those Colonist to Turn into Eggs, we have to ask how does David accomplish this with just TWO Face Huggers, unless the Xenomorph is shown to Egg Morph the Colonist.   Ridley Scott claims the focus wont be much on the Xenomorph and so a Xenomorphs Egg Morphing Colonist in Mass is maybe not on the cards.

I do think the Colonist Numbers are maybe a Plot Device to hint at how Davids Creations could end up in Thousands, but its a case of is this to be the case.

Because the Advent Viral we also have David suggesting all he needs is his Queen, which means David is looking for a way to produce some kind of Queen/Host to Produce Multiple Eggs.   So it would be interesting to see if we will see Daniels used to obtain Eggs, or Colonist or a combination.

I think when looking at the process we need to look at the Black Goo as in Prometheus as this was something a bit more simple.

*We already saw that a infected Male, can Pass the Xeno-Parastite/Pathogen to a Female and cause her to gestate a Trilobite Face Hugger, which means there is one of 3 ways this happened.

1) Infected Holloway Sperm Fertilizes Shaws ineffective Egg Cells.

2) The Parasitic Pathogen is Worm-like Organism that is passed via Sex like a Sexually Transmitted Disease and the Parasite actually Sperm Fertilizes Shaws ineffective Egg Cells.

3) As above but instead of fertilizing Dr Shaws Egg Cells, the Parasite just Gestates inside the Womb and the Womb is fooled to think it is a Fetus.

With option 2/3 there would be NO need for a Male, a simply passing of the Black Goo into the Females Reproductive System would do the trick...   The Question is the infection of Dr Shaw via Infected Sperm, because if it is then we can ponder what a actual Egg cell would become if infected with the Black Goo and so not via infected Sperm, would it make a Egg become a Mutated Xeno-Pathogen Egg?

If Dr Shaws infection was not due to Sperm, but option 2/3 then Black Goo infecting the Reproductive Organs should just yield Trilobites alone.

The next stage of any INFECTION regarding Procreating the Pathogen would be a WHAT if a Female got infected with the Black Goo and became a Mutant Hybrid, like the effects on Fifield, but more Xenomorph (as earlier concepts had) thus a Deacon/Human Hybrid, then we can wonder what becomes of a Hybrids Reproductive System, to they automatically Gestate Trilobite type Organisms, or do they start to Produce Eggs that are passed through her Womb to the outside World... i.e Egg Laying.

These are all interesting things to ponder, and we have to wonder what route Daniels or another Female takes as far as if David gets his Queen from some process.

The other option is the more Lazy One,  which is infected Female = Queen Chest Buster, but this would be just too close to Cameron's Aliens.

@ MonsterZero,

Much like BigDave I too have pondered a similar idea, but with mine, I set it on Earth...

A young Weyland funds an expedition to the bottom of our oceans where a sunken Juggernaut is discovered, partially corroded and covered in coral and barnacles. I never went too far into the concept but did imagine the crew entering the vessel through the vaginally reminiscent openings, which in this case would have been closed and sucked the crew inside. Unlike Prometheus, though I would have had the Engineer pilot onboard sacrifice himself to destroy the vessel and the Aliens onboard saving the remaining human characters and the human race at large. With Weyland knowing the Engineers exist and having only salvaged fragments of their technology he searches for historical similarities, leading him to Dr. Elizabeth Shaw.

Considering James Cameron's love for everything subnautical, and his love for science fiction it is very viable possibility he could return in time, as I doubt the Avatar franchise has the legs to last through another four sequels.

Extra points for the fact they used a curved hilt variant rather than just the standard, really cool design

BigDave very beautiful .
a hybrid queen daniels that would generate eggs would give a deeper sense to Shaw's death as a hypothetical queen, but would also make sense to David as a creator who may be wrong.
Tennessee good material to work on, it would be wrong to kill him without letting David know in his eyes.daniels generates hidden eggs, produces 2000 eggs while the colony is built, he brings to eat her to make her feel good, the eggs produced in the closet of the ship.
when everyone is asleep, the black man comes to see you, David unleashes the facehuggers as done for Lope,his beasts will be freed to conquer the galaxy.

Tennessee does not know what the eggs contain ;)

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

Indeed and even those movies ( Alien and The Thing) had copied from movies prior to them, just such a unique way Visually they did so.

Certainly interesting MonsterZero you should make a broad Synopsis, that would be interesting and maybe some day you could get it to some kind of a Draft ;)

Ha Ha...

I cant wait to see it, hopefully its something more Dark like Rogue One. i think after the next movie after (SW EP9) Disney need to DITCH the whole SKYWALKER Plot and make some alternative and darker movies.   A Ben Kenobi Flick could work just no goofy creatures and gags...  I think a Movie set Between ROTJ and TFA that gives us clues about Snoke, the Knights of Ren, touches on the Rise of the First Order from the Ashes of the Empire... done in the tone of Rogue One could also work.

Then i think a Prequel Series is needed a Trilogy prior to the Phantom Menace a kind of Rise of Emperor  Palpatine Saga even if the end of the Second is where Palpatine is revealed, so basically cover Darth Plagueis Saga leading to Palpatine and if they are VERY CLEVER...

Or let my have INPUT on SW EP9 they could throw a Massive Curvball Plot Twist that connects, the Last of the New Trilogy with a Darth Plagueis Prequel Series. (Midi-chlorian Rey) either as basically Anakins Twin or the Creation (Rey) that Plagueis had planned.

"The sexburster would have been interesting to watch"

Very True... its something i am surprised we never saw in AC...

When we was first getting clues in Alien Covenant as far as Set Prop leaks etc, when i saw Davids Workshop and those Props.... at the time of the leak i wondered if this was just the Creature Workshop Creative Room, and maybe its not part of the movie?   And when i saw some of those Props, the Baby like Xenomorphs... i was thinking are we going to see them? or similar.

Then when information on the Shower Scene came to light in the Trailers, i had a great idea.

I felt (prior to release of AC) that as the ship is containing Couples, would it not be great if the Black Goo infected a Pregnant Female (she could be days Pregnant) but the Black Goo then infects her Fetus and the Shower Love Scene turns into a Belly Burster Scene...

How creepy would that be... certainly blow the Back Burster, the C-Section and Chest Buster out of the Water....

Fear not.. as this idea is something i have planned for my ALIEN ASCENSION movie idea (Alien Covenant sequel)   and i will just say the Colonist should have taken the Commandments given by DAVID seriously... and dont eat from that DARN TREE ;)

I am thinking my ideas would not fit into less than 3 hours though ;)  Sadly for some its very AI tied though :(

Yeah thanks for the link, i had put a alternative one in the Topic as i edited you post to add the link ;)

The Blood thing, yeah i can see this working if the Original Deacon's Blood contains like a Pathogen in its Cells, that mutates Cells.  so the Black Goo can come from this... The Black Goo does seem to break down DNA and materialize Organic Cells, so i guess it could be connected to the Acid a bit.

The draft does contradict itself a bit regarding the Lord etc, first the Lord is the Sacrificial Engineer, then another and then the Deacon.

My TWO Cents... was the Engineers maybe Engineered themselves past Reproduction, they had to go the Sacrificial Route to Seed their DNA,  i wonder if the Agenda was that this route could maybe lead to a Female down the line, they could Procreate With?

The Alternative idea i had was what if the Engineers are just like David, merely AI but Organic like the Replicants.

These are the TWO main ideas i had regarding the Engineers, i had another one too... but in regards to these TWO ideas, i felt left us with those Engineers SIMPLY not being able to Create Life by giving Birth.

These idea i had years and years ago....  so my interpretation of Prometheus was these Engineers (which ever explanation from the TWO is why they cant Procreate) had at some point came into contact with something that infected one of their kind, that lead them to GIVE BIRTH to a Deacon (or its Ancestor) , the Engineers became Fascinated with this Organism, as it allowed them to Create Life by giving Birth something they ONCE could but no longer could, or something they could never but their CREATORS Could.

They began experimenting with this Organism, creating various kinds (like David was doing on Planet 4) until they had achieved the Mural Deacon, then they chosen to use its DNA to seed Worlds, as they saw the Deacon as being more Perfect than Engineer DNA.   So they Sacrificed the Deacons with the Sacrificial Substance and the resulting broken down Genetic Soup was collected and stored in those ampoules within the URNS.

Thats how years ago i interpreted the LV-223 Experiments, i was also open to maybe the Engineers had been Punished and a Pathogen or Organism (Bio-Weapon) had been used against those Fallen Engineers, but the results of this Punishment, did not kill them all, but then allowed them to Re-Weaponize the Bio-Weapon.

The other theory is maybe the Engineers had used the Genetic Tool (Sacrificial Goo) to Evolve themselves, and then they began to incorporate other DNA or Mechanics into their Bio-Technology and as a Hubris, while on one hand they Engineered those Suits, on the other trying to go ONE-STEP further they created a Hybrid Organism instead...

Regardless of which of these i think the End Process was the Result (Fresco Creature) they then began to Worship its DNA and Re-Engineer to get the Mural Deacon and then Sacrifice its DNA to create the stuff in those Urns.

The ambiguity with Prometheus means its hard to come up with a DEFINITE Theory.... which is was stumped me when working on a Prometheus 2/3, because i felt my theories could all work, they are just theories but i think i may have been in and around the CORRECT Ball Park with at least one of them lol

But alas we got Alien Covenant... which i still think those theories can fit in, and Alien Covenant now pushes me towards either the LV-223 Engineers were Created by those Planet 4 Engineers, or are a Faction that had Genetically Engineered themselves at a great hubris.

But then it could still be open for the first theory.... in that the Engineers had Evolved themselves past Procreation and the Planet 4 Engineers was the result of finally creating a Humanoid Female they could Procreate with to give us those Planet 4 Engineers.

But this is kind of against RS comments as he suggests the Planet 4 Engineers are the original Engineers, which means the other TWO LV-223 Engineer theories could be whats the deal.

BigDave - I must post this here. Focus on the bottom line in the poster. lol

BigDave - I'm happy. 8) But you should take into consideration that it was made in 1990. :)

You are right about the similarities but let's admit that nearly every sci-fi horror movie tried to copy Alien and The Thing in the eighties. (Galaxy of Terror, Forbidden World, The Titan Find, etc.)

Oh and there is no land on LV878, it's covered completely by water(stormy weather and a dim sun...large waves...Interstellar like)

And the planets atmosphere is toxic.... so IF the crew makes the surface(with oxygen scrubbers failing!! times running out!) they won't be able to remove their helmets and take a breath of fresh air. Hope they can swim(no need to swim...can't breath the air).

Captain is crazy because the wireless implant is putting pressure on his brain.

"Han Solo is supposedly dead though"

No Way... LOL    yeah thats true... oh well i guess its Chewies Next Partner in Crime, so is that FIN? or does the next movie kill them off too lol.    Maybe its a earlier shipment Solo had dropped off prior to The Force Awakens ;)

The Sabre is cool, maybe its revealed that the Light Sabres are actually a Engineer Invention that ended up in the Star Wars Galaxy when Engineers arrived thousands of years ago...   Maybe Snoke was the only Engineer left behind from this event LOL

Certainly one on my Shopping List... i think i will definitely get it by My Birthday lol

Its a must see movie for me, sadly no one i knew wanted to go watch it with me so i passed it by Sadly.

And some extra stills from Blade Runner 2049 just for you Ingeniero. :)

Every movie fan, every sci-fi fan, every Alien fan should buy the Blade Runner 2049 blu-ray - it is an outstanding movie.

The Bio-Mechanical Atheistic.. i am still wondering if Non-Organic Matter has to come into the Equation?  And so i still think either a Synthetic Construct (Part Organic/Part Synthetic) will play a role, or the Engineers have something that they can use on Davids Creations or play a role in how the Mechanical Aesthetic comes into play.

Regarding Tennessee, i think they have written themselves into a corner with AC, the ending means that Daniels would not be party to Davids plans, he would have to get rid of her... or use her for his experiments.

I think if Tennessee awakens and Walter (David) is to continue his Charade, and fool Tennessee i feel that he would ask where Daniels is, and Walter (David) would have to come up with a excuse because he cant allow her to tell him what she knows.. because then David would have to get rid of them both. I feel if David makes some excuse up... oh Daniels did not make it etc.. i think Tennessee  would have some suspicions unless he has a really LOW IQ lol

We cant rule out any of this though, as it would be interesting if Tennessee says how is Daniels, and then David takes him to a Room and we see Daniels as a Hybrid, or she is being used for Reproductive Purposes.... and Tennessee then sees the Penny has Dropped, he would be in Shock....  David would say like  "i would like you to meet My Queen"

I was actually thinking of this as a Flash Back for my Covenant Sequel, i am currently in the process of working out how to tackle certain Plot Elements.... ONE key one is that Tennessee would be framed as being a Saboteur to the rest of the Colonist, after David Charades as Walter.  And the other is indeed Daniels is to be the Queen so to speak.... but its does David introduce Tennessee to what he has done to Daniels, on the Ship or after David has started to set up the Colony but prior to awakening up the other Colonist

My Alien Covenant Sequels, do have it all set out as far as where David goes, what happens to the Survivors of Covenant, how the Engineers fit in and also how the Xenomorph gets it Bio-Mechanics

Some BR 2049 stills showing the hydroponic grow pods used by Deckard:

Well its interesting for sure, but it kind of makes you wonder if those behind the Plots really had it all thought out in any coherent way.

First to Tackle the Eggs...

It appears from the clues given from Alien Covenant that David had to do a lot of Cross Hybridization to obtain close to his Objective, it appears he came very close to a Organism, but it was not quite there... (Female Engineer Reproductive System) and so it was only with Dr Shaws Reproductive System we obtained those Xenomorph Eggs.

The Process was thus LONG and so to replicate the Eggs with Daniels, we have to consider first... (the easy answer).

*Did a Face Hugger infect Elisabeth Shaw and was removed and this Organism leads to the Eggs?

If so then indeed one of those Face Huggers with Daniels would lead to more Eggs. Thus a Queen is born from her.  HOWEVER... if not and if the Eggs came from Dr Shaws Reproductive System (which is what i think the clues hint to). Then how would David be able to replicate this with TWO Face Huggers?

Surely the Eggs are not a case of Black-Goo + Dr Shaws Eggs, because otherwise David had wasted a lot of time with other experiments... I think David had experimented and Cross Bred by using the Black Goo (because i feel it can be used as a Tool to create Hybrids from what ever is exposed to it).

So i would say the way David would obtain Eggs from Daniels has to be either.

*He somehow has tools on the Covenant where he can Genetically Splice Face Hugger DNA with Daniels Egg Cells.

*Or he has or gets some Black Goo to use to Genetically Splice Face Hugger DNA because i think this is what the Black Goo, well Sacrificial Goo at least can do, its a Genetic Splicing Tool... so if a Face Hugger DNA is broken down by this substance and the resulting Genetic Soup is then Spliced with Human Egg Cells then indeed a Xenomorph Egg could be what we get.

I feel Black Goo + Daniels Egg Cells would produce something similar to the Deacon instead, i do wonder if Daniels is exposed to the Black Goo so she becomes a Hybrid Deacon/Human then her Egg Cells could be used as Eggs or she produces Xenomorph Eggs...

But i am still drawn to the Process shown in Alien Covenant via the clues and extras, is the Process was a long one that required mixing of many Organisms to achieve the Final Results.

BigDave said, "Maybe the Falcon had smuggled ONE CARGO it really should not have ;)"

HAHA.  good one.

Han Solo is supposedly dead though.  Instead, I see the Empire originally spawning from the Weyland-Yutani Corporation far into the future in a galaxy not so far away.  So, the Empire comes across some ancient documents for Peter Weyland marking origins of a deadly alien species.  Yet, there hasn't been a siting in millenniums.  Still, even after Weyland-Yutani covering their tracks to hide the Xenomorph species, the Empire ends up putting the puzzle pieces together and finds a den of eggs during a long archaeological dig on some distant planet kind of like Alien: Out of the Shadows.  Of course the Xenomorph species gets out of control and eventually leads to the picture that BigDave posted.

Will the story work?  I hope the story will never work for anyone!

LOL...

I wonder if this will give DISNEY some ideas..

Maybe the Falcon had smuggled ONE CARGO it really should not have ;)

Nice Catch!

Certainly a little Easter Egg connection for sure, i am not sure we will ever see both Franchises being connected as Canon, but the Easter Eggs are still great

Have to check that Movie out (The Rift) never heard of it before, just seen the Plot and some parts is similar to my ideas for a Alien Covenant Sequel lol (pitched the idea to a few on here) will make a Topic hopefully this week about it.

We could also see in part The Rift is kind of like a Prometheus inspired flick... well Vice Versa, from the Plot i have just read you can see The Rift, shares some things with Prometheus/Alien Covenant with the Black Goo and other Organic Experiments.

The Rift seems a movie thats right up my Street ;) (my cup of tea)

This is a nicely done little short.  I am impressed with the budget.  It's definitely worthy of being on the Sci-Fi channel.  Still, it ain't box office quality.  Of course, just because something is in the box office doesn't mean it's good!

I give it a 8 out of 10.  The reason being that I didn't like the way the alien looked.  Also, I didn't like the acting in some parts.  It was good, but it was no Oscar nomination.

On a side note...

I am glad Scott made Prometheus.  It's just not perfect like Alien is.  Maybe if Prometheus got a well deserved 2hr 30min hour run time like some movies seem to get it would've been all better.  I love Prometheus anyways. 

Great info, Ingeniero, thank you for sharing this!

We know that Scott would like to produce a sequel to Blade Runner 2049.

Some dialogues at the end of the movie suggest that this sequel wouldn't take place on Earth.

I have the feeling that this space movie would link the Blade Runner trilogy to the Alien Universe.

When I watched the BR 2049 scene you highlighted, I thought these pods are similar to the ones on Covenant seen in the deleted Walter scene:

I think its a interesting idea...

Certainly would bring a good Tense Thriller Aspect to the Franchise, i like Tense Thriller type Plots, so it could come across with very tense situations of Trust like in the movie THE THING and like a movie i saw last night  De-Tox (Sylvester Stallone)