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mr_ZPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 28, 2011
Thats a scarily good plotline you got there RHunter!
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 28, 2011
~ Neurion,
I couldn't have put it better about Science and Supernatural creator coexisting. I believe the same. One shouldnt try to cancel out the other. Why can't both exist. If the Spacejockeys were it, we'd be f%#€. That's an technogically advanced insane demonic uncivilized society. If that's all the human race had to look towards as a creator, I'd sooner settle for a bullet to the head than to even think meeting the Jockeys as our Maker. Might as well end it cuz your living in hell....an't no paradise, or go hide on a distant planet and pray the Jockeys won't drop their demon eggs down on it. That's like going to hell. There might be a flip side to the movie. Maybe there's good and bad Jockeys, why would a civilization capable of creation be so demonic and ruthless. "We create you then destroy you with the utmost horror". What an oxymoron. I figure as long as you never reach a level of equality your cool with the Jockeys or don't steal any Bio technology, then you have hell to pay.
~Micro Changes in air density,
I like your time travel analogy. Fruit of their toil. Unless they live for a hefty length of time they wouldn't see the outcome of their creation. The only problem I have is I can see traveling in the past but the future...I don't know. IMHO, time passed may not be lost, but the future is the unpredictable unknown. The only beings I see traveling to the future is if they already are in the past traveling to an event in the present. It's only my opinion. I'm no scientist or physicist but I just can't fathom traveling forward vs. back. I can see traveling parallel in parallel Universes in what Physicist call String Theory. A parallel universe where you took a right in lifes descisions vs. a left, so in one universe you married the prom Queen and was the next Steve Jobs vs. being kicked in the sack when you asked her out ending up spending time on the Prometheus forums talking about a movie like the rest of us...lol
ReplyRHunterPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 28, 2011
~ Neurion,
I couldn't have put it better about Science and Supernatural creator coexisting. I believe the same. One shouldnt try to cancel out the other. Why can't both exist. If the Spacejockeys were it, we'd be f%#€. That's an technogically advanced insane demonic uncivilized society. If that's all the human race had to look towards as a creator, I'd sooner settle for a bullet to the head than to even think meeting the Jockeys as our Maker. Might as well end it cuz your living in hell....an't no paradise, or go hide on a distant planet and pray the Jockeys won't drop their demon eggs down on it. That's like going to hell. There might be a flip side to the movie. Maybe there's good and bad Jockeys, why would a civilization capable of creation be so demonic and ruthless. "We create you then destroy you with the utmost horror". What an oxymoron. I figure as long as you never reach a level of equality your cool with the Jockeys or don't steal any Bio technology, then you have hell to pay.
~Micro Changes in air density,
I like your time travel analogy. Fruit of their toil. Unless they live for a hefty length of time they wouldn't see the outcome of their creation. The only problem I have is I can see traveling in the past but the future...I don't know. IMHO, time passed may not be lost, but the future is the unpredictable unknown. The only beings I see traveling to the future is if they already are in the past traveling to an event in the present. It's only my opinion. I'm no scientist or physicist but I just can't fathom traveling forward vs. back. I can see traveling parallel in parallel Universes in what Physicist call String Theory. A parallel universe where you took a right in lifes descisions vs. a left, so in one universe you married the prom Queen and was the next Steve Jobs vs. being kicked in the sack when you asked her out ending up spending time on the Prometheus forums talking about a movie like the rest of us...lol
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumTrue StoryNov 28, 2011
reminds me teens and pervs but i didnt want to be too harsh :P
ReplyBazingaPrometheus ForumMaking alien life from different organismsNov 28, 2011
Spoke too soon, looks like the idea is already out there. Did not mean to step on any ones toes!!
ReplyScotAlien Movies ForumMemories of AlienNov 28, 2011
My Mom in her brillance thought it was a good idea to take me to see this movie a month after my 5th birthday in August 79 at the Hickam AFB theater in Ohau, Hi. I was totally freaked out for years, I didn't want to be alone in the the dark or go upstairs by myself. When I watch the movie today it still has the spook factor. It was such a drastic change from Star Wars.
ReplyTine RipAlien Movies ForumMemories of AlienNov 28, 2011
I cant remember how little i was when i first saw that movie.
There are nothing more scaryer than a xenomorph to me.
Kinda why i love them, cus they scare the hell out of me XD
ReplyL_V_4_2_6Alien Movies ForumMemories of AlienNov 28, 2011
I was 5 when the movie hit theaters, not sure how old I was when it premiered on television, but my parents would not let me watch it. I was so mad that I got my brother ( 2 years younger) out of bed to sneak into our dining room and hide under the table to watch it. Scared the hell out of both of us and up to about 6 or 7 years ago anytime I would get stressed out I would have nightmares of those damn aliens.
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumVideo RecapNov 27, 2011
Pretty interesting trailer huh? Although, I have to say…while watching it, I felt kind of like “Gorman” in ALIENS, watching the ambush on Acheron/LV-426 on the APC monitors. It’s pretty frustrating to watch…but better than nothing. What is apparent is to me…is that Sir Ridley seems to have imbued this film with the very artistic and visual quality that is his signature.
This is just the kind of thing I was hoping for. Even with screen reflections, distortions, grain, and poor sound quality…I could still make out the grand imagery and atmosphere in this pirate trailer. And even though PROMETHEUS is probably not the obvious ALIEN prequel most of us were anticipating a couple of years ago, it looks like it’s going to be something very special, complimentary, and a worthy companion piece…to the original ALIEN masterpiece we all share a love for. Totally pumped!
~Neurion
P.S. I felt a slight chill when I heard the old school music from the 1979 ALIEN trailer. Yes!
ReplyNickPrometheus ForumVideo RecapNov 27, 2011
1:07
The mans neck is way larger than it should be, perhaps he is infested and being changed
(I smell homage to the deleted cocoon scene in alien)
I have always been terrified of things that dissolve or absorb people.
*the blob, that black shit in the movie Creepshow 2*
Christ even "cell" from Dragon ball z freaked the shit out of me as a kid when he did that thing with the tail.
I think Ridley is going to expand on that fear, it is not a common sight.
ReplyReimerPrometheus ForumNew Trailer descriptionNov 27, 2011
It certainly looks impressive and appetite-whetting. Puzzled that something ostensibly legit, with the backing of a big corp like Fox, could go out with something so basic an error as using "it's" instead of "its" (as in "could be its end").
ReplyReimerPrometheus ForumNew Trailer descriptionNov 27, 2011
The voice-over at the start (Vickers?) is striking: I wonder if this desperate-sounding transmission might be the source for the "acoustical beacon" referred to in 'Alien'? The only excerpt we hear in that film is in a deleted scene, a whooshing, guttural unintelligible sound - possibly a time-degraded version of Vickers' warning?
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumNew Trailer descriptionNov 27, 2011
yes that is important and you that talk english as mother language shoud recognize if its the voice of charlize theron or noomi rapace .
ReplyZenenPrometheus ForumLV-426 after all.....Nov 27, 2011
Hmm maybe it crashes on LV426...linking it to Alien..
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumLV-426 after all.....Nov 27, 2011
Perhaps..because we the the ship a couple of times in the trailer and that is alot for a trailer, so he is giving us the reveal we knew would come...maybe they ruined that planet when it crashed on the planet...cause in the trailer, it looks like a clear sky, perhaps something changes the environment? Well, I guess we shall see when the HD trailer hits, be able to see more and go frame by frame...
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumLV-426 after all.....Nov 27, 2011
either way, they gonna "go there".
I get goose bumps just waiting for that probable 3.7 seconds of footage and at the end of the film.
and all the possibilities it opens up for what "prolly" comes before it.
Logic dictates they have to end this thing with the Jockey On LV-426.
What better treat than actually showing us the birth from within it of the creatures and then Finally, the Queen "Biiiiaaatch" that do/did/is doing "What she do/did/does" From her Entrance into "Cains Hell Pit" part of it's ship {could that ship even Be "Prometheus" itself...?}......to her actually laying those eggs...to end it perfectly.
Also, that scene in which we clearly see what appears to be some encantation of a Xenomorph rising and it clearly appears like it's inside a ship, made me think...
If we get to see that ship crash on LV-426, perhaps that ship is "Prometheus" herself, and if it is...
...There has to be a Queen on board !!!
ReplyReimerPrometheus ForumLV-426 after all.....Nov 27, 2011
Cross post from another thread -
The voice-over at the start (Vickers?) is striking: I wonder if this desperate-sounding transmission might be the source for the "acoustical beacon" referred to in 'Alien'? The only excerpt we hear in that film is in a deleted scene, a whooshing, guttural unintelligible sound - possibly a time-degraded version of Vickers' warning?
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumLV-426 after all.....Nov 27, 2011
It has to be,
In fact just running to the store on my Sunday NFL beer run this morning I was Humming that beacon noise like this...
"...whoooomp.....whoooomp.....whoooomp.....whoooomp...."
...and then the shivers began and i had goose bumps all the way there and all the way home...
Think I will need to be hospitalized if they don't move up the release date.
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumLV-426 after all.....Nov 27, 2011
Oh man, now you want people to think? You're killing us! lol....
Though I tend to think if this took place 30 years before Alien....something would have to occur unless something on this transformed the planet as we see in the trailer, which is clear and unlike the atmosphere in Alien but what if the ship has other things on there that could affect a planet besides the BioWeapon? They are terrafarmers so, they would be able to change the environment? So, this ship crashes on this unlisted planet which becomes to be know in Aliens as LV-426 but I am thinking...the ship in distress and being blown apart will cause some how the planet to shift...though I am probably wrong with this theory but hey, anything goes now until the film comes out..lol
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumThe best laugh I have ever had in my lifeNov 27, 2011
"#1 movie in the world"
lol.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus Forum3D or not 3D?Nov 27, 2011
Full Out 3D,
and I want some damn "Groovy Glasses" as well...lmao...
...The way Ridley would have intended me to IMO after reading his statement on wanting to "raise the bar" himself "a la James Cameron".
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumDerelict (Space Jockey) OffspringNov 27, 2011
So never mind, I answered my own question with this website I found..duh!
[img]http://ioannis.virtualcomposer2000.com/writing/figs/derelict5.jpg[/img]
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumOrganic Bio ShipNov 27, 2011
Sp according the novel by Alan Dean Foster, the ship has been there for like a million years..so, I shot myself in the foot...
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
im totally against time travels in movies ..it create a series of plot holes without solutions ( like in the otherwise excellent Source Code ) ..so i hope they will avoid it
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
Let's not forget, Lindeolf used time travel in the reboot of Star trek, so it is a possibility that he might sneak this in here as well.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
i think ridley will relate ONLY with Alien not with other movies or theories of other people
ReplyRHunterPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
I already started a thread over a month ago with a supposed plot line that hints at time travel.
PROMETHEUS
CAST
Elizabeth Shaw...Noomi Rapace
Rayden Holloway...Logan Marshall-Green
Meredith Vickers...Charlize Theron
David 4.0...Michael Fassbender
Jeremiah Janek...Idris Elba
Theo Zedmore...Guy Pearce
Logan...Ben Foster...not true anymore
Ravel...Benedict Wong
Chance...Emun Elliot
Mudow...Kate Dickie
Yuri...Rafe Spall
Aldrich...Frank Kelly
Francis...Sean Harris
Siena...Tal Berkovich
Lettap...James Payton
Tembrook...Tuppence Middleton
Earth. The beginnings of our world. In an opening montage, we watch as our primordial planet is terraformed and bioformed by seemingly all-powerful, Godlike alien entities…the ENGINEERS. The seeds of life are introduced to Earth for the first time by these fantastic extra-terrestrials, who have the power to create and manipulate both mechanical and biological matter at will. The montage ends as the earliest genetic recipe for life is sent forth from the Engineers’ massive, towering CITADEL in the dark desert.
The desolate desert of Africa: 2085. The prehistoric ruins of the Engineers’ Citadel is discovered by a corporate construction team tasked with building a nuclear-powered comm-array in the wilderness. Amidst the ancient remains are found highly advanced, biomechanical relics with are determined to be of extra-terrestrial origin. This catches the attention of the mega-conglomerate WEYLAND-YUTANI CORPOTATION, who finances a massive archaeological excavation of the citadel in the hopes of reverse-engineering the alien biotech for financial gain. Running the operation is MEREDITH VICKERS, a cold, calculating corporate executive, who recruits intelligent and independent astrophysicist DR. ELIZABETH SHAW to head up the research team. Assisting Dr. Shaw are xenoarchaeologist DR. THEO ZEDMORE and her fellow astrophysicist DR. LOGAN. Shaw uncovers the secret of the citadel when she discovers a chamber of star charts, which seem to lead the way to the home planet of the Engineers. Also uncovered is evidence suggesting that the Engineers had a database of all life on Earth, and may even have been responsible for its creation including Man.
In a partially-submerged MANHATTAN, Vickers meets with Dr. Shaw and an OPO, (Off-Planet-Officer), CAPTAIN JERAMIAH JANEK, and plans a space mission following the discovered star charts in an effort to find and make first contact with the Engineers. For the scientists and explorers onboard, it will be a journey of discovery, but for Vickers, it’s merely a way of obtaining new technology so that Weyland-Yutani may retain the lead in the competitive race to establish colonies off-world.
The depths of space: 2090. A highly-advanced, top-of-the-line ISRV (Interstellar Research Vessel) PROMETHEUS decelerates as it reaches its target solar system. The vessel’s crew emerges from their cryo-chambers. Along with Elizabeth Shaw, Theo Zedmore, Logan, Meredith Vickers, and Captain Janek, the crew of the Prometheus is comprised of: First Officer MUDOW, Security Officer RAYDEN HOLLOWAY, Navigator CHANCE, Helm Officer RAVEL, Operations Android DAVID 4.0, Political Officer ALDRICH, Medical Officer FRANCIS, Engineer YURI, and Technical Officers SIENA, LETTUP, and TEMBROOK. The crew gets acclimated to their removal from cryo-sleep, their muscles in atrophy from five years without use. Holloway assists Shaw in her physical therapy exercises.
The crew prepares for arrival at the home planet of the Engineers. Shaw and Holloway are instantly attracted to each other, initiating a romantic relationship. However, as they enter the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, Prometheus encounters a massive disturbance which hadn’t appeared on scanners, one even more powerful than a black hole: a wormhole in space. Prometheus is sucked into the wormhole, and after a harrowing ride, emerges on the other end. The ship crashes on a barren planet, which the damaged computer system identifies as the mission’s final destination.
The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw’s team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis.
Investigating the urns, David discovers that they contain the genetic material for thousands of species within a viscous liquid called BIOFORMER which can rewrite any living organism on a cellular level. Basically, possession of the substance gives its owner the power to create life. Vickers interacts with David and seemingly innocently leads to the Bioformer infecting David through a cut in his finger.
Within the depths of the Temple, we find several living Engineers who discover the transgression of the Humans, and remotely rewrite the stolen Bioformer to make it into a weapon. The Engineers capture Holloway and run a number of horrific experiments on him, injecting him with the Bioformer and allowing him to return to the vessel.
Subsequently, the crew of the Prometheus begins to fall victim to the now weaponized substance, as the “carrier” Holloway injects Ravel, Zedmore, Francis, Siena, Lettup, and Tembrook. The victims begin to lose their humanity and slowly transform, experiencing nightmarish visions and hallucinations and making pilgrimages to the depths of the Temple to receive instructions from the Bio-Brain. Holloway, in particular, is resistant to the transformation, fighting against the alien influence with his feelings for Shaw and his responsibilities as security officer. Meanwhile, David finds that the Bioformer is making him into a biological being…making him Human. The crew also finds that their trip through the wormhole took them back hundreds of millions of years and they are actually stranded on primordial Earth, having moved through space and time.
Eventually, as alien influence and the continued lurking presence of the Engineers becomes clear, the crew of the Prometheus turns on each other as the infected human victims fully mutate into PROTOFORMS: vicious, skeletal alien monstrosities which proceed to assault the unaffected Human crew through the halls of the Prometheus.
Mudow, Logan, Chance, Aldrich, Yuri, and Janek end up being destroyed by the Protoforms. In a strange, erotic ceremony, the Protoforms seemingly mate with the Bio-Brain and each other to create thousands of EGGS, the first of a new generation of the monsters. Meredith Vickers is revealed to be a sleeper CONSTRUCT of the Engineers, who are still active in their far future and Shaw’s present due to the time-travelling abilities of the wormhole. Vickers was grown in an Engineer lab but escaped, fleeing to Earth while always wanting to her find creators and take their power. The Engineers activate Vickers’ secondary GENE PROGRAMMING, and she transforms into an ALPHA PROTOFORM: the STAR BEAST.
At last, the two remaining crew members, Elizabeth Shaw and David, seek to confront the Engineers in the Temple. The Godlike entities prove to be utterly evil, and David sacrifices himself as he’s dissolved in the LIFE SEED BIOFORMER which is the basic genetic recipe for MAN: the former android David, it turns out, is the basis for all Mankind. Shaw is captured by Holloway, but he regains enough of his humanity to remotely activate an Engineer vessel for Shaw’s escape, then holds the other Protoforms and Engineers at bay. As Shaw escapes, she finds herself in the midst of the initial Engineer terraforming of Earth which we had witnessed in the opening montage, chased by the former Meredith Vickers who is now the gigantic, horrific Star Beast.
Shaw makes to her escape vessel which blasts off for the wormhole, Holloway fighting the Star Beast with both falling into the wormhole and disappearing. An Engineer PILOT detaches from the Temple in a FAMILIAR VESSEL and follows Shaw, but is lost in the wormhole. Shaw emerges above the Earth of her present day; however, she’s deemed insane and responsible for the loss of her expedition and confined to a psychiatric hospital by the Company. It’s implied that there are at least some of those who believe Shaw’s tale, but have silenced her as part of a cover-up.
In the final scene, we see the vessel of the Engineer that was chasing Elizabeth Shaw emerge from the wormhole in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, still in the prehistoric past, and crash on a nearby planetoid, the Engineer Pilot helplessly lost and the EGGS in the ship’s cargo hold stirring as something alive moves from within…
The Beginning
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
I didnt see it..but good theory as well...
ReplyGame_Over_ManPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
A lot of sci-fi traditionally has been analogous to current issues, research and debates
- so it wouldn't surprise me that the implications of time travel as researched at Cern wouldn't be considered.
I'd like to think the intervention of the Nostromo has a little more backstory too - I feel the casting of Noomi has a purpose, personally I think there's a little resemblance to Ripley, and I'm beginning to wonder if there's some genetic connection involved...involving a twist in time would be very interesting...hmmmm...
ReplyRHunterPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
Maybe relying on the point that the Direlect is a million years old hence Alien and whatever plot is in affect for Prometheus supports Scotts argument that this is not really a prequel but the last eight minutes has Alien DNA leading to Alien but not in sequence totally. Same Universe but a story of it's own. Who knows...it drives ya nuts trying to figure it out.
ReplyRHunterPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
I don't think there is a gentetic relation between Noomie and Ripley. That's digging deep iMHO. I just think it's what Ridley wanted just like in AVP Reqium, the female Hero happened to have dark hair and be tough like Ripley. Its a way for us to familiarize our self with a character that worked for the first movie IMO. Then again, who knows with Scott. If he's reading these forums he has to be laughing at us sheep. lol
ReplySkipoPrometheus ForumTime Travel Possibility in PlotNov 27, 2011
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ReplyrourkeAlien Movies ForumMemories of AlienNov 27, 2011
It's my first post so hello!!!
For me, being terrified of air ducts as a child because of this movie!
Jokes aside, the moment where Ripley is completely alone on the Nostromo and she peers around the corner and the alien appears. The heart beating and the absolute terror on Sigourney Weaver's face stick with me to this day. Amazing stuff
ReplyrourkeAlien Movies ForumMemories of AliensNov 27, 2011
The moment where Ripley has Newt over her shoulder and she looks up and the Queen is revealed, brilliant cinema
Replydrogie21Prometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASEDNov 26, 2011
Hi Guys!,
Don't want to ruin your run of questions but just wanted to ask what people thought with all the information that has come out. DO WE THINK THAT WE ACTUALLY GET TO SEE A SPACE JOCKEY CONSIDERING THIS IS GOING TO BE THEIR WORLD THAT THERE IN???? You think Ridley Scott is leaving out footage of the Jockey's in the trailer as the BIG SURPRISE when we do see them for the first time in the film???? What do you think? :)
drogie21
ReplyJim JimmerPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASEDNov 26, 2011
I think the head is the same one from the comic con pics the angle of the first picture was high up, so the brow can be mistaken for an eye patch. As for the suits, because they're not wearing the helmets in one of the pics Ill just assume for now that they are just environment suits rather than full on space suits.....
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