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GuestPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
Bishop, I could be very very off here but IMO there is a 100% chance it is BISHOP. Here is why. They tried to get Weaver to do a cameo and I think she, and Scott, decided it would be better not to given the rest of the content he had in mind for the film. I think somehow to get close, at least to some sly references to her character as a fan of the franchise pleasing platform "foreshadowing" the 4 original films, they may somehow show us that Bishop has been a round a lot longer than any of us ever knew. He was Key Player at "Waylan Yutani", maybe even it's director, that much we know for sure, so it fits in my mind with the storyline. The scene below from the extended edition of Alien 3 is referenced in the Collectors Quadrilogy BoxSet as... "Never Trust Bishop" ----------------- Ripley -> "Don't come any closer." Aaron -> "Wait, They're wanna help" Ripley -> "Stay where you are." Bishop -> "Ripley." Ripley -> "Bishop." Bishop -> "I am here to help you." Ripley -> "No More Bullshit...I just felt it move." Bishop -> {Loudly now} "Do You Know Who I Am ?" Ripley -> "You're a droid, same model as Bishop, sent by the F*****g company, Bishop -> "No, I'm not the Bishop Android, I designed him, I'm very human. The company sent me here to show you a friendly face, To demonstrate how important you are to us... To Me." Ripley -> "You just wanna take it back." Bishop -> "We wanna kill it and take you home." Ripley -> "Bullshit." Bishop -> "You're Wrong...we wanna help." Ripley -> "What does that mean ?" Bishop -> "I'm gonna take that out of you." Ripley -> "..and Keep It !" Bishop -> "We can't allow it to live, everything we know would be in jeopardy." Ripley -> "You don't want to take it back ?" Bishop -> "Ripley...Time is important...let us heal your wounds...we've got a surgical base set up on the rescue ship...come with me..." Unidentified Soldier/Technician behind Bishop with Machine Gun -> "It's very quick, painless, a couple of incisions, you'll be out in 2 hours." Bishop -> "And then it's over...you still can have a life...children...and most important...you'll know it's dead...let me help you" Ripley -> "What guarentee do I have...once you've taken it out...that you'll destroy it ?" Bishop -> "You'll have to trust me...please...trust me" Ripley -> "No." He could have even been a part of the original Prometheus mission and brings a lot of added value to the table like being able to remote pilot a ship...and contain unruly inmates...lmao.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
well guy pearce is a perfect android bUT is also true that this can be other smoke in our eyes
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GuestPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
The fact that that they are keeping that of all things such a guarded secret is the main clue in and of itself to the answer which I believe I have found. At this point, in order for it to make any sense and mostly because he did not use the descriptive.."New"...in his sentence when he said that...it can only be one of two androids in particular...Only One of them though... "Call." or "Bishop". The following dialogue is from the final moments of the extended version of "Alien 3" on the Collector's Edition Quadrilogy Box Set. It is referenced as... "Never Trust Bishop" Ripley -> "Don't come any closer." Aaron -> "Wait...They're here to help." Ripley -> "Stay where you are." Bishop > "Ripley." Ripley -> "Bishop." Bishop -> "I'm here to help you." Ripley -> "No more bullshit, I just felt it move." Bishop -> {Loudly Now} "Do You Know Who I Am ?" Ripley -> "You're a Droid, same model as Bishop, sent by the f*****g company." Bishop -> "No, I'm not the Bishop android...I designed him...I'm very human...the company sent me here to show you a friendly face...to demonstrate how important you are to us...To Me." Ripley -> "You just wanna take it back." Bishop -> "We wanna kill it and take you home." Ripley -> "Bullshit." Bishop -> "You're wrong...we wanna help." Ripley -> "What does that mean ?" Bishop -> "We're going to take that out of you." Ripley -> "...and keep it." Bishop -> "we can't allow it to live, everything we know would be in jeopardy." Ripley -> "You don't wanna take it back ?" Bishop -> "Ripley...Time is Important... Soldier in White Lab suit -> "Let us heel your wounds." Bishop -> "We've got a surgical base set up on the rescue ship...come with me." Soldier in White Lab suit -> "It's very quick, painless, a couple of incisions, you'll be out for 2 hours." Bishop -> "And then it's over....you still can have a life...children...and most important...you'll know it's dead...let me help you." Ripley -> "What guarentee do I have... that once you've taken it out... you'll destroy it ?" Bishop -> "You have to trust me....please...trust me." Ripley -> "No." ------------------------------- The following dialogue is from the final moments of the extended version of "Alien Resurrection" on the Collector's Edition Quadrilogy Box Set. It is referenced as... "I'm a Stranger Here Myself" Call -> "So this is earth ?" Ripley #8 -> "This is Earth." Call -> "It's my first time here...suppose the military will be sniffin' around here pretty soon...bet you're not to anxious to see them." Ripley #8 -> "Not really." Call -> "You Know, a person could get really lost around here if they wanted to...what do you think...what should we do ?" Ripley #8 -> "I don't know...I'm a stranger here myself." ---------------------------- Bishops intentions are clearly to aquire the alien for Waylan Yutani's "Bio-Weapons" division and this is confirmed in Resurrection. If call thinks she has never been to earth, and even suggests to Ripley to run away now before the company gets to the crash site, her intentions are therefore honorable towards Ripley...and they get proven as such several times in that film That leaves One Answer and it is... BISHOP Perhaps a different actor model or using CGI but it has to be BISHOP to make any sense...he is the ONLY Android with the correct intentions who could have had access to the information and history of Prometheus's mission 30 years prior...and at the same time...known of the original Queen inside Ripley, which is more than likely how General Perez has come to aquire a Queen on board the U.S.S. Auriga under the closley guarded care of "Father". Bishop had to have been involved. And we know he must have been, because Gediman tells us They "Took DNA samples from her death site on Fiorina 161." Only Bishop could have known exactly where to do that. For them to keep it a secret it cannot logically be any other Android at this point then Bishop. Otherwise there would be no need to keep it quiet and they Risk losing a lot of credibility by doing that.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
At this point, in order for it to make any sense and mostly because he did not use the descriptive.."New"...in his sentence when he said that...it can only be one of two androids in particular...Only One of them though... "Call." or "Bishop". The following dialogue is from the final moments of the extended version of "Alien 3" on the Collector's Edition Quadrilogy Box Set. It is referenced as... "Never Trust Bishop" Ripley -> "Don't come any closer." Aaron -> "Wait...They're here to help." Ripley -> "Stay where you are." Bishop > "Ripley." Ripley -> "Bishop." Bishop -> "I'm here to help you." Ripley -> "No more bullshit, I just felt it move." Bishop -> {Loudly Now} "Do You Know Who I Am ?" Ripley -> "You're a Droid, same model as Bishop, sent by the f*****g company." Bishop -> "No, I'm not the Bishop android...I designed him...I'm very human...the company sent me here to show you a friendly face...to demonstrate how important you are to us...To Me." Ripley -> "You just wanna take it back." Bishop -> "We wanna kill it and take you home." Ripley -> "Bullshit." Bishop -> "You're wrong...we wanna help." Ripley -> "What does that mean ?" Bishop -> "We're going to take that out of you." Ripley -> "...and keep it." Bishop -> "we can't allow it to live, everything we know would be in jeopardy." Ripley -> "You don't wanna take it back ?" Bishop -> "Ripley...Time is Important... Soldier in White Lab suit -> "Let us heel your wounds." Bishop -> "We've got a surgical base set up on the rescue ship...come with me." Soldier in White Lab suit -> "It's very quick, painless, a couple of incisions, you'll be out for 2 hours." Bishop -> "And then it's over....you still can have a life...children...and most important...you'll know it's dead...let me help you." Ripley -> "What guarentee do I have... that once you've taken it out... you'll destroy it ?" Bishop -> "You have to trust me....please...trust me." Ripley -> "No." ------------------------------- The following dialogue is from the final moments of the extended version of "Alien Resurrection" on the Collector's Edition Quadrilogy Box Set. It is referenced as... "I'm a Stranger Here Myself" Call -> "So this is earth ?" Ripley #8 -> "This is Earth." Call -> "It's my first time here...suppose the military will be sniffin' around here pretty soon...bet you're not to anxious to see them." Ripley #8 -> "Not really." Call -> "You Know, a person could get really lost around here if they wanted to...what do you think...what should we do ?" Ripley #8 -> "I don't know...I'm a stranger here myself." ---------------------------- Bishops intentions are clearly to aquire the alien for Waylan Yutani's "Bio-Weapons" division and this is confirmed in Resurrection. If call thinks she has never been to earth, and even suggests to Ripley to run away now before the company gets to the crash site, her intentions are therefore honorable towards Ripley...and they get proven as such several times in that film That leaves One Answer and it is... BISHOP Perhaps a different actor model or using CGI but it has to be BISHOP to make any sense...he is the ONLY Android with the correct intentions who could have had access to the information and history of Prometheus's mission 30 years prior...and at the same time...known of the original Queen inside Ripley, which is more than likely how General Perez has come to aquire a Queen on board the U.S.S. Auriga under the closley guarded care of "Father". Bishop had to have been involved. And we know he must have been, because Gediman tells us They "Took DNA samples from her death site on Fiorina 161." Only Bishop could have known exactly where to do that. For them to keep it a secret it cannot logically be any other Android at this point then Bishop. Otherwise there would be no need to keep it quiet and they Risk losing a lot of credibility by doing that. Bonus -> Bishop...can "Remote Pilot" any ship. He brings some added value to the table as well. It just plain fits perfectly...like a glove. A far more younger, agile, state of the art Bishop from 30 years prior could be a very effective crew member of Prometheus, even under a different or assumed name as a company plant on Prometheus herself."
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
Ridley have said the there is some sort of alien DNA in the last 8 minutes ...i cant really think that he care something about Bishop and Call and all the whole "alien" franchise expect HIS first movie .
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FrantzPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
btw what did you wrote make perfect sense :)
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
you could be right, i wouldn't be surprised at all if he went in a totally different direction. I could be way way off, it's just a hypothesis, But I like it a lot. I am in fact speculating, and you are absolutely right I want there to be a solid tie with the rest of the franchise and that calls my whole take on this into question...it's just wish full thinking on my part.
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Mr.JPrometheus ForumThe 2nd Android
Yeah, I think the only thing that Scott is using is the Weyland name and thats it. I think he will throw a monkey wrench in there. I think fassbender will be a fairly good android but the sleep android will be the one who programed to bring back the specimen....but who knows at this point...Scott can do anything.
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Game_Over_ManPrometheus ForumSupposed Leaked Cam Trailer Footage !!!
Any theories on the last 8 mins? I reckon, birth of giant Xeno from Space Jockey (of course), beast kills off Elba and Theron in that order...distress beacon set up my Fassbender to lure Nostromo, Fassbender killed by dying Rapace who's in state of metamorphosis...no survivors...cut to 30 years later, ampule room morphed into eggs room, beacon monitor shows signal from Nostromo...cut to titles...maybe haha
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumSupposed Leaked Cam Trailer Footage !!!
I am afraid to say but just now I had a flash that the last scene in the film is... That "S.J. guy" {lmfao, those are also my 1st two initials} in that chair landing on LV-426 and dying, and then, a few seconds later, "prolly" represented with some sort of time lapse, out pops you know what and what it/they does/do...first..."A molecular acid based... Mark...a Buuuurn" right before they trotter down through their hastily created hole in the side of the hull where Cain will fall through soon, and then lay out "a layer of nest" to just cover their Queen's thousands of egg-like Incubators !!! Enter The Queen. The End!
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Game_Over_ManPrometheus Forum4 new pics
Logan Marshall-Green's pout is disturbing. Does he morph into a Justin Timberlake? I hope the Xeno's get him first ;)
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spacejockPrometheus Forum4 new pics
Lol, yea lets hope this is only because of the cheesy art direction of the magazine's photographer :)
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Hudson25Prometheus Forum4 new pics
These are awesome shots! At first I thought the pic of the head in thumbnail size was one of the crew members badly mutilated or altered. Then I was bummed to find out it was only the Giant Head statue. Still, very creepy image of the ampule room. Can't wait for the trailer!!
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GuestPrometheus Forum4 new pics
I know that the shots look a bit polished, but I'm sure that's due to the art direction from both the Magazine AND the studio; and does not reflect the movie's final look. While Ridley doesn't want to release too much info on the film, remember that the studio needs to promote/market the movie to the general movie-going audience. Hence the nice polished, but still spooky/sci-fi look of the official images. While I know Ridley is going to make a great movie (even possibly Oscar worthy). Unfortunately, that doesn't mean the movie will gross significant profits. We're in a time where mostly only summer action blockbusters or teenie-bopper movies come close to record breaking numbers. While a movie might not have to hit that high in the numbers dept, it still has to do fairly well in order to be considered a success by the studio and therefore warrant further sequels. Honestly, I believe this movie will be perhaps one of the best sci-fi movies of the decade, perhaps even close in originality and design to the original "Alien". But I fear it will only do "OK" at the theater profit-wise. Maybe enough to warrant a sequel. (Unless , of course, the movie has an original controversial scene akin to the original chest-burster sequence that will draw general movie goers in for the shock-factor). Aside from all the marketing/profit talk, I can't wait till this movie debuts. The images have me even more excited. I hoping this film will bump "Alien" down from #1on my personal list of all-time favorite movies...
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draekusPrometheus Forum4 new pics
@ Frantz I think they're just elements of giger's designs for the movie. Speaking of which, can't wait for the inevitable Giger art book with the design concepts for the movie.
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FrantzPrometheus Forum4 new pics
what are in your opinion those "ropes" or cuts on the nose ? arent surely the cut of the stones because are in relief
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MentosPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
[b]@Biomechanic[/b] You bring up an excellent point, the one in the comic-con stills definitely looks different. As well as its teeth on show, it looks a lot more 'fleshy' and also seems to have some sort of metal covering on its nose. Just a thought guys; could we have two heads on the ship? Or is the head pictures organic? Can it move, talk etc?
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JonesyTheCatPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
They are engineering humans (and other species - it's what they do). This is the 'human' ampule room. I'm guessing there is a 'xenomorph' ampule room somewhere as well as other ampule rooms for other species. The stone? head represents the human race. The other rooms will have heads of other species. The ampules contain human dna. The other rooms will contain other species' dna. Or this is the only ampule room.
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Paddy101Prometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
I'd say there are more ampule rooms.... If you watch alien again when Kane is being lowered down into the cabin where all the eggs are, there is one wide shot where you can see that the chamber extends away for a long distance and turns right and then left again.... i.e. thousands of zenomorph eggs..... So I'd say there are definitely numerous species on board the derelict space ship.... The images look great.... don't get me wrong but I remember Ridley saying that they were re-engineer the Nostromo to get a good look for this film.... I thought they would have done the same for the space suits, made them larger and more chunky then what see saw in "Alien"....
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JonesyTheCatPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Paddy101 - Hear what you say on the spacesuits, but remember Ripley's lot were 'space truckers' and this lot are researchers/scientists, so naturally the suits would be different. Ripley's lot just needed suits that are maybe for quite harsh conditions on mining facilities etc, wheras this new lot need simpler suits for conducting experiments etc.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
So there must be the "cats" ampule room the "dogs" ampule room the "worms" ampule room etc ...1847372 rooms :D
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Paddy101Prometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
@Jonesy - That's a very good explanation for the suits... Never thought of them as mining space suits....
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Mr.JPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
This is a brand new ship on her maiden voyage, all the best things because Weyland built her and she will have the best equipment they can make...
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Hudson25Prometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Everything except a good pulse rifle to ward off those pesky xenomorphs.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
i'm sure that at some point of the movie we will hear the phrase "We are a scientist operation....we didnt expect any trouble ...well we have some screwdrivers and a flamethrower ... " plus add some random mercenaries being eaten in the first 10 minutes of the movie .
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Game_Over_ManPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Where does this pic come from? Looks like Rapace...looks like Alien design...looks like an egg in the reflection of her helmet...hmmm [img]http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4897/kevz5jmkj.jpg[/img]
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drogie21Prometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
In the last of the new images of Prometheus that are uploaded....That is DEFINATELY an egg just above the second small photo in the right bottom hand side! Just look at it closely. You can see the shape of the opening of the mouth of the egg that we see in Alien etc.
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Interesting and I am most thankful to those that brought them to our attention but I am not really satisfied by any of these, if anything I am more annoyed waiting for a an official trailer. and it really bugs me what is written on that magazine like cover, I want to read what's inside regarding whether it is really a "prequel to Alien" or not. And even though I already know the answer.
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FrantzPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Game_over ..no is not rapace , is from a documentary ..there are other shoots of the girl dressing for that ..its not from prometheus anyway .
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Game_Over_ManPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Full page article scans :) [img]http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa410/Ultramarine_99/454197942.jpg[/img] [img]http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa410/Ultramarine_99/454212900.jpg[/img]
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
omg the inside thank you thank you thank you ....I am no longer annoyed but rather, sorry for this, my being a heterosexual male and all... ''..."My Nipples Just Got Hard" !!! {now, let's see if we can magnify the print...hehehehehe}
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
ok, I just read that thing in it's entirety and... #1- Game_Over_Man ...I f'n love you for doing that and if there is a way I could truly afford it at the time and you could PM me your physical "addy" somehow I would have payed for you and yours to see "Prometheus" when it comes out...lol. Now, I am going to hide behind the fact that I think you cannot. But if you can please do, I am most greatfull. #2- What I just read there is the most exciting things I have read about the film yet, even though I already knew them all, the way they are presented in that article got me...well...hyperventilating...on the inside...with goosebumps on the outside...and talking to myself out loud while a ringing in my head just about blew me away in that the majestic way it is all wrapped up in a perfect bubble and presented to the reader... I could just die from the anticipation of seeing this freaking thing already.
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Game_Over_ManPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Haha no probs Spartacus - I'm so hyped for the flick too...certainly hoping the tone, look and script are awesome! At nearly 3 hours thats a lot of movie to get right! Just please be an R :)
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Game_Over_Man › wrote; "Haha no probs Spartacus - I'm so hyped for the flick too...certainly hoping the tone, look and script are awesome! At nearly 3 hours thats a lot of movie to get right! Just please be an R :)" Check out my answer to the question, "How do you think the last 8 minutes of the film will play out"? It's in the "Supposed Leaked Cam Trailer Footage" thread. And if you can come up with something for us all. I would be very interested to read how you would have answered that, as well as everyone else. ~Sparty@ThePrometheusParty!
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SpartacusPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
I believe he totally meant..."technically" and I agree with him completely! That movie was in fact a technical bar raiser from a 3D visual point of view.
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spacejockPrometheus ForumBREAKING NEWS: MORE OFFICIAL IMAGES RELEASED
Actually I have something to say about their outfits here. I think they resemble diver's outfits! And I saw in a recent interview with Fassbender where he hints about being involved in underwater stuff. Who knows, 50/50, like a lot of other speculations :)
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