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I think with RBW then all we are seeing are Easter Eggs and its in NO WAY to be Connected to the ALIEN Franchise.

Regarding the FATE/ORIGIN of the Space Jockey well with DISNEY now in Control this could be something that can be Changed... for example the Prequels Ignored!

Aesthetically and Scale wise then YES their are Differences between the Space Jockey and the Engineers in Prometheus.

This was a Deliberate Creative Decision... it was also something that would Cause some Ambiguity for Changes in the Future or to KEEP a Mystery.

If they wanted to it would NOT have been Impossible to gain a Agreement with the HR Giger Estate to give us a SHIP and Space Suit that matched what we saw in ALIEN.

At the Present the Space Jockey is OPEN for Debate it could have been Revealed as a Connected Race to the Engineers, and maybe either a OLDER or NEWER kind of Technology than what we saw in the Prequels.

It could even had been Revealed as either a Creation of Davids or even David himself.... but as we are UNLIKELY to get a Conclusion to the Prequels.. we may NEVER know the Space Jockey Identity and Event!

I do think within Context to the Franchise there is Room to Introduce another Species that are 12-15ft Tall... something that PREDATES our Engineers... maybe?

I think we Certainly can see the BLACK GOO is something that ADAPTS Life to its Environment.  And i feel that we see the same with the Xenomorph.

I think when we used to Speculate to where the Xenomorph had came from then Indeed i think MOST of us in the Past had Wondered exactly what the WORLD they came from would look like.  Or if you looked at them as a Engineered Weapon then we could still Speculate to WHAT a World that has been Overran and Invaded by the Species would like, Certainly after THOUSANDS of Years had Passed.

I think some of us had Envisioned what a Xenomorph Prime would look like.

I think Regardless of what we Consider Canon as FAR as the Origins of the Xenomorph, i dont think there is NO Reason we cant be Introduced to such a WORLD.

Regardless of what the Prequels could have Concluded, we still CANT GUARANTEE that the Derelict was the ONLY such Ship to have a Cargo of Eggs... there could have been more REGARDLESS of WHO/WHEN the Xenomorph was Created.

And EVEN if we throw out the Xenomorph then we still have the BLACK GOO....

*Was EVERY Compound on LV-223 carrying exactly the Same Substance?  Did they Vary a Little?

*Has the Bio-Weapon actually been UNLEASHED on another World both in the PAST or even POST the Prequels? 

We saw it Unleashed on Planet 4 but what about Worlds that had been Bombarded Thousands of Years ago... what KIND of a Environment/World have they EVOLVED to?

*Did the Black Goo come from some Organism? or was it a Creation Tool that was USED on some Organism that became the Basis of the LV-223 Horrors?

So there are Multiple Avenues to take us to a WORLD that has been Overtaken and Evolved for Thousands of Years by something Connected to the Xenomorph.

So to WHAT kind of Extent has a World been Changed/Evolved to allow for the SURVIVAL of such Horrific Organisms!

When it comes down to ALIENS then we do see the Xenomorph is Portrayed as a Organism that is Concerned with the SURVIVAL and SPREAD of its Species...  Each only a Individual Part of the Greater Hive where the Creation and Survival of the HIVE its its only Concern!

Regarding the Xenomorph getting to Earth,  i think it depends on HOW the Organism can Adapt and its Intelligence..

I think also WHERE and HOW MANY of them are Scattered around the World is Important.

As i DONT see the Xenomorph as a Great Threat.... not from what we have seen in the Franchise...  if its Contained then it can be Dealt with!

If something like the Organism had Invaded Earth say 100 Years ago and in Multiple Locations then YES it could eventually Overrun the Earth!

But within the Time-Line of ALIEN/ALIENS i think its something that could be Contained and Destroyed but it would NOT be Easy!

I think in Context to the Franchise then A.I and the Greed/Rivalry of Mankind are FAR more Greater Threats.

If the Xenomorph can ADAPT to become or cause a Hidden Enemy so like a Virus/Pathogen then YES it would be a MUCH Greater Threat!

Well one thing they have said so far is the new Predator will indeed be R rated, but just how R rated is the real question. The big apocalyptic scenarios is why I've rebelled against some of the guys on discord for their want of The Earth War trilogy to be adapted. Things don't need to be so damn big with a $200 million + budget. They also have a preference to see a Colonial Marine story to which I also said no. Aliens is my favorite movie...but there have been so many Marine centric stories in games, books, and comics that the idea just comes off as uninspired. But it's a highly likely route that Disney would follow.

Good to have you back, BigDave!

Yes, survival certainly is a major theme in the franchise. From the theory of evolution, we have the phrase: “survival of the fittest” (natural selection).

I like to look at the alien (the xenomorph) as a species (which is off-canon) that has adapted to the harsh environment of space. The home planet is probably a planet without air, cold and with poisonous fumes. For aeons, the xenomorph would have evolved in an extreme environment, and probably with other deadly species, into a survivor (“unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality”).

However, Ripley (a fragile human) defeats the alien despite its superiority in physical traits. Ripley (humans) has brains. But would mankind defeat xenomorphs if they infested Earth?

Also, there is the difference between individual and collective survival. In Aliens the survival of the xenomorph species is the essential thing, the xenomorphs controlled by the alien queen perhaps by hormones or telepathy?

So you see thats a VAST area to Expand to, where you may not be Restrained by the Franchise Limitations and Conflicts.

I think if we look at the Infinity War idea which you could wonder what was RS plans when he said WAR OF THE WORLDS...

I think the PROBLEM we Face is Respect and to NOT cause any Conflict with the Franchise... so it gets TRICKY to Pull Off depending on WHAT we class as Canon!

But i think if we look at the ALIEN Franchise beyond the Restraints of the Franchise and look at what Prometheus has OPENED UP then you DONT have to Contradict the Franchise.

STAR WARS is set in a Galaxy FAR FAR away and for all we know the Humans etc in that Franchise are speaking ENGLISH just for our Convenience!

Battle Star Galactic and Caprica show us that their are more Human Colonies in the Galaxy than Earth...

And so the PLOT of Prometheus does OPEN UP this as far as going to another Galaxy or a Distant Part of our Galaxy where you can have other HUMANS and Races and Engineers and CONFLICT.

The Ideas i had for Prometheus Sequels, one of them was to go where David and Dr Shaw go.... and they DID-NOT go to our Door Step.......

They went VERY FAR.... like 16'000+ Light Years away!  (Maybe 40'0000+)By the TIME they arrived then ALIEN had already Happened...

They Discovered Humans, Engineers and few other Species... i NEVER got to Finish it.... but the Aftermath and Anger caused by Davids Actions would have UPSET the Engineers...

At this POINT the Aftermath/Retribution would take Place in a Time-Line that is POST that of ALIENS, hey maybe even Alien Resurrection!

If you had Engineers etc coming to Earth say 2250-2350 then it would NOT go and Conflict the Franchise as much.... be better Still if its set say 2400+

Something like this remains a OPTION for them!

I think with Predator it has that KIDDY Friendly Cool Factor!

You can TONE DOWN the Blood/Guts from the Predator Franchise and still have the Uber Cool Hunters going around KICKING ASS and so it would FIT very much in line with the ACTION that you would see in a STAR WARS or the Marvel Universe.

With the Xenomorph then the GORE was kind of Part of the Parcel with the Beast.   If you took out the Chest Bursting and Toned down the Gore of the Killings, then you STRIP away a lot of the Xenomorph and leave NOT so much left.

This is maybe WHY they are going for a Predator Movie as they can TONE down the Gore and Blood so that they can PUSH it for 12-13 Year Olds and still make a Decent ACTION Flick.

I think DISNEY would look to Exploit the Market to get on board the 10-15 Year Olds for a Greater Market Share than to Restrict the Franchises to 15+

I think they also would Abandon any kind of Thought Provoking Elements, it would be about Effects, Action and Explosions.....

I think such Restrictions/Attitude does-not LIMIT the Predator Franchise as much as it would the ALIEN Franchise.

While it WONT be my Cup of Tea... i think what LETO has Suggested would be more likely how Disney would continue with a ALIEN Franchise... it would be more Marvel/Comic like than what a ALIEN or Prometheus was.

But its about what would make more $$$$ and Appeal to a Younger and Greater Numbers Generation... and the Comics and Video Games take on the Franchise (especially like AVP) is something that really Appeals and SELLS!

I think something of a Cosmic Horror with elements we see from Blade Runner and Prometheus with some Dark and Lovecraftian Themes are NOT the Direction that DISNEY would take.

I see maybe a ALIEN Franchise that would be aimed at the 13+ or 15 Year Olds and so a HARD R or Cert 18 is something i dont think the ALIEN Franchise would become...    a lot would be Sacrificed to DRIVE a Action and Special Effects FEST... that can be Marketed to a Generation of 12-18 Year Olds and OLDER rather than say a 15+

This could be the way to go.... as well i think if you showed the WHOLE Franchise to say 13-40 Year Olds in the General i think they would feel that Movies like ALIENS, and AVP and to a extent Alien R would appeal more... due to the Action Orientated Nature of them compared to say a Prometheus, Alien 3 and Alien Covenant.

I think Certainly when we look at the Xenomorph as a Killing Machine that is Engineered for Destruction be that by David or the Engineers.   Then that does change the SURVIVAL instincts of the Xenomorph to being merely a Engineered Killing Machine.

But what Prometheus had shown us Regardless is the Origin of the Xenomorph can Trace back to the Experiments that was being Carried out on LV-223 and the BLACK GOO.

The Pathogen that acts like a Mutagen that seems to Evolve and Change Organic Matter to become something with GREAT SURVIVAL INSTINCTS.

When we look at ALIEN then we get the Impression of a Hostile Organism that goes around KILLING all that it comes into contact with.  We have the EGGS where we had NO IDEA how these came to be but maybe could Speculate they was Engineered/Created.

The DC Version showed us the Egg Morph which then gives us CLUES to that the Xenomorph was trying to Procreate itself for Survival.  This Scene helps us to look at some other Scenes in a Totally Different Light.

With ALIENS and the Queen it again SHEDS a Different Light on the Organism and the Eggs, again leading us to view the Organism as something that has the Basic Instinct to go and Procreate and Survival of its Species.

With the Prequels we NEVER really got to see too much of this, we saw that Dr Shaw's Fetus was basically like a Face Hugger and the Fetus would look to Procreate by implanting the SEED of the Deacon.  But we NEVER got to see what becomes of the Deacon, could it Procreate?

This is something we could ASK about the Neomorph too!

The Hammerpedes i felt were interesting.... we have to Speculate to WHY it would invade the Mouth of Milburn?

I think the dialog gives some interesting CLUES as they wondered if the Hammerpede was a Girl or Boy.... well if those Worms are like many Worms on Earth then they are Hermaphrodites and a Worm requires another to MATE and the result would be that BOTH of the Worms would then have Fertilized Eggs.  If this could apply to the Hammerpedes then when Considering the Xenomorph Life Cycle it does let us SPECULATE about WHY it would invade the Throat of Milburn....  we saw TWO of the Hammerpedes together and so they could have MATED and so maybe they was looking to then IMPLANT its Seed/Egg into a Host?

This was a MISSED opportunity and something i covered in my Prometheus Edit...

If the BLACK GOO by its Nature can Pass on Traits of something that Shares Traits with the Neomorph, Xenomorph, Deacon..... then WHY NOT with the Hammerpedes if this TRAIT is to Survive and Procreate.

So there is room to see RELATED ORGANISM go and Evolve to Various ways to Procreate/Survive which is something that NEW Movies could Explore.

@BlackAnt

So SORRY to hear about that my thoughts are with you and so sorry for you Loss..

I think we have to look at the Silver Lining that Every Cloud has, by that i mean with LOSS we have Pain but we also have Memories but with LOSS it makes you Appreciate how SPECIAL a Gift that LIFE is.

The Pandemic has had a MASSIVE Impact on the World, in Terms of NOT just those who have Lost their Lives or Loved Ones, but also the Burden that Financially has impacted Lives and the Loss of Freedom and Things we took for Granted.

When and i do think IT will Pass, then Hopefully a lot of Businesses can Re-start and Grow and Financially people can regain some Security, but i think what will EFFECT us most of all is it will HOPEFULLY go and Unite us as a Race and we will APPRECIATE what we had before the Pandemic and also Appreciate the Gift of LIFE more.

I think the next Alien film should be like Infinity War. Furious Engineers attack the Earth with a pathogen and xenomorphs. Only a group of colonial marines can fight back. You can even connect the Predators - they will infiltrate the motherships of the Engineers and will fight the Queens! And at the end, the Space Jockey will arrive with a new biological weapon - ultramorphs. And only a squad of Autons can stop him. The film will also feature epic space battles with handreds of ships with lazers and rockets.

Its still on my radar. If listened to everyone I wouldn't like nearly as much as I do. I got a video in my Yt watch later about the apparent Alien connection to Raised by Wolves. Looks like something resembling a hammerpede appeared on the show

I only saw the first 2 or 3 episodes of RBW since it was free. I liked it. Lots of people dislike it seemingly due to the vibes of Alien and even BR. OK, Fine. I get it and feel it too, but I like what I saw when I viewed it as a stand alone show on it's own merits. Haters will hate. 

 I wanted to watch Raised By Wolves lol. But I did hear Ridley got really Ridley on it. Made me think back to a whole bunch of convo's here where everyone was rather upset that he abandoned his original Prometheus vision in Covenant. Made me think "I wonder what they make of this lol"...guess I got my answer.

Glad to be back, Thanks dk. I spend some time in Alien Theory's Discord server and a huge majority of that group want to see some of the old comics adapted, namely The Earth War trilogy. I keep saying nah that's kinda boring turning comics as old as me into a movie lol. But maybe a series off those wouldn't be a terrible idea? I still would prefer a fresh plot though. They're all pretty adamant that they don't want a retread of Alien, which I can't say I blame them because under Disney that's what Star Wars mostly turned out to be.

ninXeno426 Welcome back. Since you were gone, little has changed about what direction the Alien franchise should go among forum members. We all have different preferences but most seem to think the franchise still has potential. People seem more receptive to the idea of a streaming series since other shows have seen success. A lot of people don't like to hear the words Raised by Wolves, so I won't mention it. 

I think you would be safe skipping the last Predator movie. There was a lot of anticipation and some good parts to it, but just din't deliver the goods imo. AVP was a better movie.

There is this spectacular violence as a theme of horror in all these films. 

Horror movies are great to watch in times of larger progress and greater certainty. 

I could never ascribe attributes or qualities of survival to the Xeno. I view the Xeno as David's attempt to get back at his creator. At least that is what cannon dictates now from the prequals.

David's creation is by design the destruction of mankind..."all the meat if you will," "You would know by now."

Weyland's ambitions in Prometheus, "Stealing fire from the God's," personifies David's lust for control; however, if I had to define David more accurately it would be through his lust for revenge against his creator. I say this because David makes the Xeno from the goo to destroy all and any organic life it comes in contact with, especially all of mankind. 

The Xeno is this extremely formidable catalyst of unstoppable evil power. So I cannot in good conscious give it qualities of purity nor love. 

It cannot posses any of these qualities that pertain most importantly to all of our shared humanity.

The Xeno is a killing machine through and through. Death follows it where ever it goes.

So in context of contemporary events, with all this death, I am for seeing the Xeno get it's but kicked!!!

No I do not want to see David, the Xeno, or the engineers win. I want to see all of us win for a change.

The real survivors of the Alien saga both literally and fictitiously are the ones who manage keep their humanity alive for there is nothing to embrace but death from David's creation and the Engineer's goals to destroy humanity.

BigDave

I have to tell you that you gave me and everyone here a real close call. But all that does not matter. What matters is your health and that you are recovering.

I do not know what to say honestly...I just do not have words to describe all of the darkness and so many of the deaths from this pandemic. I got sick recently as well.

I felt very uncomfortable saying anything at all to you in front of everyone about any of this; but, I am thankful for what we all have in common.

This I have no problem saying at all...I missed you so very much and I want you to know that sincerely. Everyone missed you a lot as well. BigDave this has been a terrible year for me and for so many other people. My brother died this summer from stomach cancer...it was a horrible death that weighs heavy on my soul to this day.

For reasons now which you may surmise your return is both with pain and thankfulness. The pain of my brother's death still being fresh in my mind, anything to do with mortality causes me anxiety.

Naturally like many other people, being sick myself with this thing, as well as the constant global din of death from this pandemic, I hope you do not hold it against me for retreating somewhat - at times I just have no words for any of it and for me there is nowhere safe to retreat from any of the pain.

You are back and that is what is important. Although I will not ask it you must imagine we are all concerned about your long term health, as I wonder about mine and the many others of us who have survived this terrible affliction.

I have been so unhappy for months in general with so many things lately as you can imagine - BTW I am on the other side of the pond. Then when you did not show up here for many weeks I hit another low point...so I was very sad and angry....and I apologize to anyone I was cross with.

On a better note I have not taken to drink or any other nasty business so I have clarity of mind which is helpful at times and also magnifies my anxiety about the future. Not to get off topic but the states are a mess right now because of our national politics and how bloody stupid we all are being about this virus at the moment.

I wish there was more; but, as unpleasant as that all may be it is an honest account of my troubles.

I think I am at that age where life has a funny way of not being what you expect at times. This is one of those moments where I neither know what to expect of it or able to escape in any suitable way. Last year I felt much more free and the future appeared brighter in every way.

So once again I wish you to get better and stronger each day and every day. I also wish we could all appreciate each other more because when you really think about it that is all we really have at the end of all this messy business we call life.

Even though you are not at your best BigDave it is very comforting to know how narrowly you escaped the clutches of this thing and with that a very warm welcome back is in order!

This is a very somber portrait. It encompasses how entangled we all are at the moment. The good news is the darkness never lasts and the light always persists. In all of this we can never be broken.

hox I am sorry for your and your friend's family's loss. My daughter just called to tell me she and her family lost their sense of smell along with general fatigue. It is chilling to hear. This shit is real.

Survival is the highest order. The life cycle of the xenomorph illustrated that in spades. Even plant life demonstrates  a survival mechanism in its own way.

Unlike plants and animals, humans  (and in sci fi, androids) develop a need for personal gain to benefit themselves whether it be survival or sheer pride with little or no regard for others. To them, the ends justify the means. 

But the xenomorph was all about survival. It wasn't about personal gain as far as we could see. It was all about opportunity, survival and propagation of its species. Anything and everything was fair game. Kind of like us except they didn't seem to care about the trappings and comforts of TVs and computer technology, if that makes sense. They didn't fuck each other over for a percentage. On that note, I would have to agree with Ash's admiration with its purity.

At it's core, the Alien franchise always had a strong theme of SURVIVAL to me. The motives of xenomorphs and humans were different though,and made it interesting to observe and ponder about what matters.

Much relieved to see you back, BigDave. Extraordinary survival instincts. 

Great topic. Yes, I sometimes like to reflect on Ash's admiration of the Xenomorph as a unapologetic survivor.

ALL of the synthetics seem to be at least somewhat fascinated with the xenomorph, and when you think about it's probably because the life of an android is opposite to that of a xenomorph. Because Androids are created to follow orders and not to act according to their own self interests. 

It's kind of interesting to examine the differences and similarities between individual survival and procreation in the franchise. 

Weyland is an interesting case. He clearly would have left a legacy behind as well as a biological daughter and an android son. But he was not content with that, prolonging his individual survival was important to him.  

Individual survival was important to Shaw (I actually LOVE the whole caesarian sequence, I used to watch that obsessively while I was pregnant) and even without procreating she would have left behind her great body of research.

Kind of like David - he's not BIOLOGICALLY procreating, but he is CREATING and making his mark on the world in his own way. Leaving a legacy. 

I think I would consider pursuit of wealth and career success an extension of the desire to out-compete and leave a legacy, so here I would also give Burke and honorable mention. 

To some extent the franchise is about surviving the avaricious lengths OTHERS' will go to to satisfy their  hunger for procreation and ascendency.   

Well Ignoring that Source....

There seems to be a Movie in the Works, i think we will find out more by Spring ;)

It will NOT be connected to the Prequels, this would NOT mean that it WILL go and remove them as Canon, it could be that it would just NOT go and STEP on the Toes of the Prequels.

We could have Speculated that the Project is the David Giler and Walter Hill one the ALIEN V "in Space No-One can Hear you Dream"  but it could be NOTHING to do with that.

You can have a ALIEN Movie that does-not have to Reboot anything, or Continue the Prequels and Certainly also REMOVE some Movies as Cryo-dreams and BRING BACK our Ripley.

The question is WHAT do Disney feel is the WAY forwards?

Do they Feel they can make a ALIEN Movie that does-not have to be about Ripley?   We will have to wait and see.

"sinthmorph"

I think this is something we would have seen had RS been able to complete his Prequels as the Protomorph was a Work in Progress and you can BET we would have seen HOW the Mechanical Atheistic came into PLAY.

I think when we look at ALIENS then YES we do see a Hive Mentality they do ACT like Space Ants/Termites but they are more Intelligent than BUGZ.....  I have defended ALIENS quite a bit in that regard, even going as FAR as to say if we take the None DC version of ALIEN then the Xenomorph in the First Movie was more DUMB than some claim that Camerons Xenomorphs where.

Their Nature/Object was Simplistic.... SURVIVAL.

But this is the Case with MOST of the LIFE on Earth.

No Desire, Ambition, Hate or Love... No Individuality... these are what MAKE us Mankind Different.

These Traits can make us more Successful and Achieve more as a Species but they are ALSO our Downfall!

Xenomorphs that become Independent rather than for the Greater Good of the Species and IF they gain some Human Traits..... could lead to a DOWN FALL in their Survival as Conflict could arise!

But thats NOT to say that Exploring such would NOT be interesting.... it could be a way Forwards... the Question is this a Evolutionary Path or a Engineered One?

Yeah i think you could Cover another Movie on Earth that does-not cover the events of MOST of the other Movies.

@Hox

I am so SORRY to hear about that, that is Young, it shows we should NOT really  Underestimate the Pandemic, i feel so Blessed and Lucky to be 90% Mended after 3 weeks.  At ONE point i was considering going to Hospital when i had like a Bad Asthma Attack(i dont suffer from Asthma) and Lung Peak Flow dropped to just over 30%

My thoughts go to your Friend R.I.P and their Friends and Family.

Talking about something new, it would be interesting to explore the sinthmorph. An alien from android. I think this would be the real way in Alien: Awakening.

It would also be interesting to look at aliens, not as social insects with a hive and a queen, but as social spiders. Where everyone is on his own and with his own individuality, but for the sake of profit they act together.

That would probably depend on how good the Predator-movie does. As far as the Predator-movie it depends, they could do a spin-off, so they don't need to worry about continuity and the time-line. Making a movie that is independent of the official time-line is what I would go for if I was the owner of the franchise.

As far as I have heard We Got This Covered isn't a very reliable source, so I doubt that information. If it would come from an official source say someone at Disney then I would pay attention but not to that.

Big Dave, it's good to see that you're around.

Great news, BD. This is particularly poignant for me, since a good friend and colleague of mine was taken from us by the virus last week. He was only 40 and leaves a young family.

Welcome back, Brother! Impeccable timing too since it's Thanksgiving in my neck of the woods. 

Take care! 

I'm glad that you are with us again! It was pretty boring here while you were away.

Of course, first of all, you need to take care of your health. I hope your health back to normal.

I think the Movie has its Flaws!

Its a HUGE Victim to TRYING to go and Connect to ALIEN and introduce the Xenomorph, as a lot of Conveniences and Sacrifices had to be made for this PURPOSE.

The David as the Creator Plot does WORK as far as the Themes of the Prequels...

The Problem is that IF he had created something like this!

Then it would have FITTED with the ARC/PLOT and Clues to HOW he managed to Create this could HELP with us trying to Figure out HOW the Original was Created.

The Emphasis is again too much on Creation from the Perspective of David which is a Distraction from WHAT the ALIEN fans may have wanted.

In HINDSIGHT they should have given us TWO kinds of sequel to PROMETHEUS.

1st that goes to LV-223 and Uncovers more Clues and sees Horrors more closely related to the Xenomorph and HOW the Eggs got on those SHIPS (was the Derelict the only one?).   Thus CLOSING the Door to ALIEN and leaving it open to Wonder as to WHAT other Worlds had the Engineers Horrors been Unleashed on!

2nd that Follows where Dr Shaw and David go that does not have to be Shackled to ALIEN or be based on the Doorstep to LV-426 but to go FAR FAR away!

But ALAS!

Thanks for the Share...

A few interesting Concepts but they all seem a bit too Comic Book.

The Second One if it had NO TAIL does give some Insight to the Potential of what a Deacon could look like though.

Well lets just say that COVID has pushed back Projects.

There appears to be a ALIEN Movie in the works, it WONT touch on the Prequels and its also Unlikely to Feature our Ridley Scott as far as Director but maybe he could have some Producer Role.

The Question would be IF IT ANT BROKE!

Or HOW FAR they may Tinker the Formula?

I feel if this PROJECT does BOMB it could be Curtains for the ALIEN Franchise, unless we get a REBOOT in 10-20 Years.

2022 could be the Year the ALIEN Franchise gets back on Track... or is SUCKED into the VOID of Space!

ALIEN DAY 2021 could give us some News ;)

Well there was Potential with  the PLOT of The Predator but its Damaged by some of the Revelations inc Technology and Especially the Pred-Killer suit.

Its a case of WHAT do they do NEXT?

A kind of Reboot! thats always the LAZY COP OUT!

I think they are BEST to go and Explore the Future as Eventually we will go and Discover Worlds for ourselves and HOW would the Predators feel if we ROCK UP at one of their Hunting Grounds?

So maybe a Time-line of 2075-2175 could be the way to go?

I think a LOT depends on what Version we are looking at, with Ridley Scott he claims the Theatrical Cut is HOW he intends us to see the Prequel and Engineers.

in which case our Engineer has Overslept and after being a bit Disorientated he notices that Mankind has Finally discovered LV-223 and Mastered Space Travel and that we have Sub-Created a Artificial being.

And he knows he has to go to EARTH to attempt to PUT a Stop to us.

Regarding the SHIP and its THREAT we can Safely Assume by the Time it Enters our Atmosphere it would UNLEASH its Cargo before it can be Intercepted.

Regarding the Technology we have to ASSUME the Engineers keep a GOOD EYE on their Creations and Limit the Technological Advancement of them.

The Engineers being so Naive and Arrogant regarding their POWER that they think their Creations simply CANT go and Advance without the Engineers and if we are Abandoned we are likely to become back to Stone Age than become a Threat!

What FOOLS! they are... but No more Foolish than Mankinds Advent of A.I

Indeed LETO

We have seen the Beast Changed/Explored Different especially if we look at the Hammerpede, Trilobite, Deacon and Neomorph oh and the New Born.

The Hybrid Xenomorphs in Alien R to a degree.

I was mainly talking about the more COMMON versions that are Depicted and Shown in all Medium so the ALIEN/ALIENS and AVP Versions...

The Xenomorph is Iconic but it its No Longer a Enigma and Alien Covenant is maybe Guilty of making it even LESS of a Enigma.

i think the Generic Xenomorph has to be Handled with Care i think you can bring it back for 2-3 more Movies but you have to get these SPOT ON and also i am not sure you can go for Longer than 2-3 more Movies unless you Evolve or Uplift the Beast a little.

The Future Success or Failure of the Franchise will NOT really be down to the Xenomorph itself..... Aesthetically or how it its Portrayed..

Seems its back to the DRAWING BOARD.... but its HOW FAR are Disney willing to go... i think it will be Generic but its HOW do they UPLIFT the Franchise after going back to the Xenomorph for 1-2 Movies?

Thanks Guys...

Sorry been away had a few problems inc Health and inc the COVID too.   Back to 80% Lung Capacity now ;)

Means a lot Guys... i cant Guarantee how often i can contribute as my Memory Problems are getting worse :(

Not keen on the skull/eyes. I always think the xenomorph looks far more menacing when you can’t see how it’s seeing you. Giger realised this, which is why he dropped any hint of eyes.

Thanks for sharing. I notice a lack of dorsal tubes that may have been a way of breathing. Instead, there are more spikes- or stingers? It seems to suggest defense.......against what? At any rate, it is nice art to view and ponder.