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To give a little something away, I'm creating a extra scene that was never shot entirely.

Pulling all the tricks I know to make this the ultimate version of Prometheus.

As much character development shots as I can find. Except for a few that I don't like or think don't contribute to the story and the characters.

Using the original soundtrack to close some audio gaps.

I dug really deep in all of the 4 disc collectors edition blu rays. Saw what other fan editors did and build upon that.

It will be a combination of others work, perfected that and added so much of my own work.

Color graded all the shots that were still ungraded so that everything has the same feel.

For some it might be too long and boring but this is for people like me that want to spend every second possible staying in this world and story.

The engineers are my favorite part of the Alien lore. It made the world so much deeper and complexer. First the Alien franchise was just a professional B movie series. The engineer lore makes it so much more interrsting in my opinion. The creation of man connected to the xenomorphs and the engineers (space jockeys) is just perfect for me.

Thank you for your interest, I hope to finish it soon. Getting closer and closer. It might take another 2 months and then it will probably be done. I think I read about this Janus before is that possible? Did you already post about it somewhere else on this site?

Sounds amazing Magnum Opus, and as someone else who has been consumed by the Movie Prometheus, I am definitely interested. 
I too have spent much time and effort to actually writing a two part sequel to Prometheus which continues the promise of the great themes within WITHOUT harming Alien Covenant! 
I have already sent the first part, (which is titled’Janus’) to Dark Nebula and he is reading it and will give me feedback when he finishes.

if you like I can send you the script for Janus as well if you would be interested in reading it too.

the basic premise is that it takes the surviving members of Prometheus, (some have actually survived that we thought dead) and brings them into the same timeframe as Ripley8 (Without harming Alien Covenant) and climaxing in a ultimate finally that brings the series to a satisfying end. This is NOT a time travel story!

let me know if you’re interested.

Lamaruke 

Casually ignoring the fact a Xenomorph is ripping soldiers to shreds behind him lol...

It could be interesting

All the shots look promising. I hope it will have a good plot and make the whole Alien timeline relatable and interesting. I am happy the trailer has so many views on YouTube (so far already have 22M). This is the first ALIEN TV show ever and I have been looking for it since Prometheus. 8 Hrs of bliss. That's like whole Alien 1-4 combined. I am looking for Season 2 already lol. 

Agreed, they really are dropping a lot from the series in close proximity to the last. Unless the marketing plan for this show is vastly extensive, I don't see them maintaining this momentum all the way to August. Hope they pace themselves to keep the hype alive.

Yeah, I guess they're gonna goof this release because they went with no info for almost a year then are hitting us with tons of trailers in a very small window of time. They need to pace themselves, save these for closer to the release date. The trailers are starting to have spoilers in them too.

 I have to adjust my findings, listened more closely and it's actually: Henryk Wieniawski: Violin Concerto No. 2 in D Minor, Op. 22: III. Allegro confuoco.

Sorry for the confusion.

I just found out the violin composition by the girl at the end is: Henryk Wieniawski - Scherzo Tarantelle Op 16.

Since I need it to edit into my fan edit of Prometheus.

Beautiful artwork.

This sounds wonderful!! I am looking forward to seeing it, and I am certain most fans will too. Thank you for your hard word and dedication, i've pinned this for visibility!

Needs more Kirsh. Seriously tho, looks amazing.

OWWW!!! That is one BIG Continuity SNARL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same here! I'm more and more intrigued the more I see. Not that I want the summer to fly by, but I am quite eager for this show.

Looks so good, i'm fully seated for this.

Cool new looking Xeno too, has a beautiful copper dome. (it looks like one of the Kenner toys, iirc it was a mantis or something like that).

Agreed Jonesy, this trailer really invigorated my excitement for this series. There really is no better time to be an Alien fan.

I noticed several nods to Alien 3 and Aliens in this trailer too. Very atmospheric and on brand!

awesome trailer. It is much better than I expected.

It feels unreal to have another epic Alien saga so soon. I am somewhat still in Romulus mode and I still have the Alien VR yet to finished. And there is Alien Isolation 2 in the works. Such an amazing period to experience. 

Looks great, giving some Alien: Icarus vibes.

Also, neat callback in this pic to Ripley 8 in Alien Resurrection, when you see her in the jail cell before Call comes in to confront her.

In an interview with Fandango, Ridley Scott compared the Engineers to "dark angels" inspired by John Milton's Paradise Lost, highlighting their complex and ambivalent nature. He also described their role in Prometheus as that of an ancient and advanced civilization, responsible for the creation of humanity. However, he did not use the exact phrase mentioned in your question.

This idea that their body—especially their bone structure—is perceived as a “cultural document” to be preserved makes me think of a kind of aesthetic or philosophical conservatism, where evolution does not mean total erasure of the past, but rather integration and homage.

I wouldn't mind an alien-movie that has the Engineers in it in some way, that would be cool but they need to get the characters right.

Oh my god, Timothy Olyphant looks amazing as a Synth, very Roy Batty (according to the director, the look was Olyphant's choice). The Westworld/Caprica vibes are off the charts now, totally can't wait to see the series.

Interesting theories, I'm leaning towards there being many different factions of Engineers.

In David's Drawings artbook, David had this to say:

"Bone density and strength:
While the Engineers have definitely taken steps to evolve their genetic structure and durability, they curiously maintain a strange deference to the sanctity of their pre-technological state. Strange for a civilization who has moved through industrial/technological considerations shown in their early structures to the evolution inherent in their eventual aesthetic integration as a spacefaring culture. One can only assume they ironically treat themselves as they do their cities, as cultural and developmentally historical documents to be treated with reverence."

@jdvyne, I hear you and I agree to a degree - I also hope the Xenomorph isn't diminished to an easily defeat-able "bug" yet again. It should be the epitome of terror but in the show I believe the Xenomorph specimen on board the USCSS Maginot is an adult form, not sure if any eggs or Facehuggers are going to be part of the containment breach. If that's the case then these Hybrids and Synths will only have to track and kill a single Xenomorph - which is doable and mimics that of the Nostromo plot. If there are eggs / Huggers however then yes, I don't think the Alien infestation should be eradicated so easily.

@Svanya, I concur, I loved Westworld and the Synthetic story arcs have been vastly more captivating than the Human ones in pretty much every Alien film. While I expect the Alien won't get as much screentime as the Hybrids / Synthetics, I do hope they don't wait to crank up the heat for the final 2 episodes - leaving us on a cliffhanger to Season 2. So many series partake in that kind of setup and it's frustrating. Slow burn for the first 6 episodes and then bombard us with the content we've been craving for the last 2 episodes. Given FX have already ordered a Season 2 before Season 1 has even released makes me nervous this show may play that game too.

Also I'd like to tell you one of my earliest theories from a time before "Alien: Covenant" (it is still probably my favorite one but with Alien: Covenant Ridley Scott seems to have moved away from that direction).

The Story:

There is only one Engineer faction. They have seeded many worlds, including earth, where they have created humanity. The Engineers revere and worship life and as an religious act the seed worlds and create life. And because the Engineers think of themselfs as the pinnacle of creation, eventually they always create life in their own image.

Then one day the Engineers stumble upon a planet, where they find the ruins of an ancient civilization. THE FIRST ENCOUNTER OF ALIEN LIFE! This civilization seems to have been wiped out. But in the remains of this civilization they find: The Xenomorph-eggs or -DNA. They try to recreate it and are somewhat successful.

The Engineers realize, that this life form is superior to the life, that the Engineers have seeded. To use a metaphor: The Engineers have seeded daisies so to speak and now they have found a rose. It is more beautiful, resilient and able to resist (it has a blossom but it also has thorns). The Engineers - who worship life - realize, what they have made a mistake, which they now must correct.

So the Engineers drop Alien eggs on every planet, that they have seeded and sure enough on every planet the Aliens supplant the previous life forms. To continue the metaphor: In every garden, that the Engineers have created, they now plant roses. And in every garden the roses supplant the daisies, while the Engineers stand by, watching captivated how every garden of theirs is being embellished.

Since the Engineers have come to the conclusion, that the Alien life form is superior, they have started to incorporate its DNA into their own DNA. This is why they look biomechanical at the end of Prometheus. Humanity simply is one of the last of the Engineers creations, that is to be "updated". The Engineers don't hate or despise us - THEY WANT TO HELP US GETTING BETTER! THIS IS LOVECRAFTIAN HORROR AT ITS FINEST!

Unfortunately 2000 years ago on LV 223 there was an accident, so the Engineers couldn't complete their work. The last step of course, after all their creations would have been updated, the Engineers would have updated themselfs!

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What must be clear, is that Alien is essentially Lovecraftian horror. That means, that the horror essentially must be beyond human comprehension! Lovecraftian horror is beyond good and evil. There are forces at work, that are so much above us, that they don't even care about us!

The Alien must be from the far reaches of space and time, it is ancient and we cannot understand why it is there. It is like a force of nature! It is truly alien! Its origins must remain in the dark!

With my story Ridley Scott could have introduced the Engineers and made the Engineers into an all-powerful race and the creators of humanity and so forth - all while still not touching the origin of the Alien and its Lovecraftian horror!!! The Engineers may have found the original form of the Alien or something similar but they must not have created it in the first place (ESPECIALLY DAVID MUSTN'T HAVE CREATED IT!!!). But the way "Alien: Covenant" was made, it seems to me that he has shut the door on my version of the story...

Wait the Engineers wanted to prevent A.I. technology from developing on Earth back during the Iron Age? That doesn't make a lick of sense.

But B and C were good choices too

Holy crap that is awesome. Hmmm I'm a fan of E because Greek Mythology.

I honestly think the Xeno won't feature much in the series and it will be more of a Westworld type story, there's too much focus on the Androids/Synths for it not to be the case. The whole Neverland theme is also interesting, quite a few of the Hybrids have names from that story/movie (Wendy, Tootles).

I personally am intrigued because I love the android lore in this universe but i'm betting people that prefer the Xeno will be disappointed. Ridley Scott always said he wanted to make a 3rd movie after Prometheus and Covenant that explored the androids more than the Xenos and I think this will be it (He is listed as the executive producer on the project, so he is involved to some extent).

This also seems to follow some of the themes and storylines that were covered in the comics.

I've seen Fargo and Legion and Noah Hawley is a genius imo, so I have faith in his vision for the series.

I'm not convinced.

Also I'm afraid of the premise of this series. As far as I understand it, a ship crashes on earth - a ship that carries an Alien or an Alien-Derivative. The Search-and-Rescue-Team, that was sent to the crashsite, discovers the Alien and then has to fight for its survival. In the end the Crew will surely win and the Alien-threat will be banished.

This diminishes the Alien yet again. The Alien is supposed to be the personification of absolute evil and a perfect organism - designed to destroy. As soon as no more than one single Alien touches the surface of a planet, that should be game over for the planet. Yet here we go again - humans find and destroy it. The Alien seems not to be a threat after all... In AVP 2 (not that it's canon) at least they had to drop a nuke on the city! Surely that won't be necessary in Alien: Earth, since they can handle the Alien more easily. In one concept art I saw a human fighting an Alien with a sword - WITH A SWORD!

I thought Prometheus wasn't going to be part of the TV series's lore? Hawley make up your freaking mind!

Did someone tell me?

Looks incredible, I can't wait. Timothy's looking a lot like Roy Batty which is a nice nod to Blade Runner, also we finally get to see Yutani and she looks amazing! (She kinda has that Rachael hair so another nod to Blade Runner).

Yea, i'm really thinking the show is going to focus a lot less on the Xeno stuff and more on the Synths/Androids. I would be happy with that tbh.

Welcome back, Cuponator! Thanks for volunteering! Check your inbox on Scified, I'll be sending you a message!

Hi, I'd like to cover as a member of the press for you! It's been eons since I've been on this site! I live in Vegas and would be able to attend the event on May 17, Saturday. I'm filming a horror short the 16th, so unavailable. I should be done by 10p w/ the film project, so could make a late night appearance on the 16th..

If you'll take coverage on the 17th only, I'd love to contribute!

Apologies, yes! Same event - our correspondence has been corrected. This is the Vegas event! 

When is the event? Is this the same event that took place at SXSW? Is this the same event that's going to take place in Vegas this month?

They really went for a Neverland theme with this, even girl's name is Wendy. I'm starting to get really excited to see the series.