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I'm OK with it if
1. It shows that David didn't create the original Xeno.
2. Has heavily reduced time for the androids
3. A lot better written characters compared to what we've seen this far. Don't sacrifice character-development for run-time.
These conditions must be met if I shall have any interest in it, otherwise screw it.
Good find! And yet another nod to the older films from Fede who just couldn't help himself I guess....
Hopefully she keeps drifting away from a sequel script. Who knows, maybe she's forced into a sequel like a watermelon through a mailbox, appearing terribly deepfaked, repeating some classic lines from the quadrilogy before going back to the narcissus, cuddles with a deepfaked/CGI Jonesy and falls asleep like nothing happened.
Update to the second point: I just learned that there are two easter eggs, answering what happened to Ripley. Turns out: They in fact picked her up! The narcissus can be seen in two scenes. Once inside the station and then ejecting, when the station starts colliding with the rings.
It kind of does look like a horses eye
Well if this series turns out to be a bust like the Halo and Fallout tv series, I will loose all faith in sci-fi television
its okay, not thrilling, just okay
I highly doubt it since the Earth War Trilogy is a direct sequel to ALIENS so essentially the Earth War Trilogy was ALIEN 3 before ALIEN 3 was made.
Having the setting on Earth back then made sense because it was after Ripley discovered the xenomorphs, after she told the ICC and Weyland Yutani corporation of her encounter. So it was an escalation of the metaplot.
Here where it is set before Ripley's encounter make no sense. If xenomorphs were already on Earth two years prior to Ripley's encounter why didn't they procure a specimen? If the xenomorphs were on Earth, there was no need for Lv-426, no need for Hadley's hope and no need for Ripley's personal vendetta against the xenomorph because her entire journey is render moot!
Oooh cool, I love the occult theme they have going on here. Reminds me of the old Dark Horse comics involving such plots.
I never understood this huge emphasis on mystery.
Is it so you can make up your own conclusion for your own headcanon or fanfic ideas? I don't like mystery, this may come from me being heavily into science, history and paleontology where I want to unravel mystery and know the nitty gritty details of well everything!
Back to the elephant man. I was referring if Prometheus used the elephant man Space Jockey instead of the humanoid design.
Thought I saw a glimpse of a scary looking eye...
I wonder if the show is based on the comic series from 1990 called Aliens: Earth War
It's OK, could maybe have been better and a bit more unpredictable if that makes sense.
Absolutely love the poster in all its simplicity. A nice nod to the classic poster for the first Alien film with vibrant colors and more detail.
Looking at these, I can tell in some frames there is an open Ovomorph, people getting attacked by face-huggers and Xenomorphs. For that other frame, it kind of looks like a close-up shot of a horse? Or a sheep, I'm not sure.
I feel like folks online read way too much into things, and twist words around. Even when Fede talked about using practical stuff in Romulus he meant filming practically as much in camera as possible instead of filming people wearing motion capture suits and lots of green screens like in a bunch of Marvel movies. People read that as “No cgi its all practical”, and then when the VFX breakdowns of the film dropped people went “Butttt Fede said noo cgiiii!!!! Wtffff!!!”.
Yeah, reminds me of forum discussions about the force awakens (based on what J.J Abrams may have mentioned regarding practical sets) vs the prequel trilogy, the latter being thrashed for "excessive CGI" when apparently, it did in fact use a lot of practical sets and effects as well, whereas the force awakens on the other hand actually used a lot of CGI, as it turned out. People tend to jump to conclusions (and yes I try and sometimes do look myself in the mirror)
Would you be equally disappointed if they were the massive bulky elephant men as depicted in the old Dark Horse Comics?
Yes to a lesser degree because they're comics (love them in general but not into/neutral to Aliens comics) but also and I think mainly because the whole point of the space jockey in the first place was to keep you guessing what it was and what happened. The ambiguity surrounding the derelict and its pilot that may or may not have been very old. The mystery and how the film draws you into it is one of the Alien's greatest strengths.
It seems that AVPs weren’t canon to begin with, they just existed in their bubbles as crossovers.
To the topic of the Alien TV series, the way I see it, Noah Hawley talked about different ideas for his TV show, and he didn’t find anything from Prometheus and Covenant useful so he stuck to the original 1979 Alien. Folks who dislike the prequels and want them retconned so badly must have read that as him trying to ignore them completely out of the canon.
Aliens Dark Descent didn’t use anything from Prometheus and Covenant from what I remember, and the writers, I think, acknowledged that prequels exist.
I feel like folks online read way too much into things, and twist words around. Even when Fede talked about using practical stuff in Romulus he meant filming practically as much in camera as possible instead of filming people wearing motion capture suits and lots of green screens like in a bunch of Marvel movies. People read that as “No cgi its all practical”, and then when the VFX breakdowns of the film dropped people went “Butttt Fede said noo cgiiii!!!! Wtffff!!!”.
that comment wasn't aimed at anybody except for marvel... I wish I could buy out the alien franchise and give the comics back to Dark Horse.
Neomorph
Would you be equally disappointed if they were the massive bulky elephant men as depicted in the old Dark Horse Comics?
Engineers have returned to find David and his variants.
I do wonder if the Romulus sequel goes in the direction where Andy and Rain cross paths with David if we will see Engineers.
Exactly. Which is why I feel the Monster won't actually be at the forefront of the series. I expect most of season 1 to focus on the Androids / relationships between Synthetics and people and the Prodigy Corporation with murmurings of Xenomorphs throughout until the end of the series where they reveal the beast.
Since they've got plans for more than one season out the gate we know they can't reveal everything and culminate the story in one season.
Hopefully they don't demystify the beast too much.
The question is how much new you can add without demystifying the monster.
The retconning and continuity issues are indeed silly and/or make no sense, but after Prometheus reduced the ambiguous space jockey into a mere suit for tall, living roman statues, and David being the creator of the xenomorph as we know it, I just couldn't take it seriously anymore.
With that being said I'll view Alien Earth like I watch Terminator films, by disregarding the confusing timeline and watching them as individual stories while ignoring the connections.
I just wanted to add, ALIEN Earth is basically switching places with AVP 04.
Xenomorphs tend to grow really fast, the baby form was essentially it's chestburster phase.
So If the Alien TV series is its own thing, then its non-canon and thus can be ignored.
As much as I am delighted that AVP 04 is getting retconned to oblivion (Prometheus and Covenant had already did that) it still does not change my opinion of Alien Earth. I believe its going to be a total disaster at a continuity perspective:
1. ignoring the alien prequels
2. having xenomorphs on earth prior to the events of the nostromo and hadley's hope
3. focusing the story on transhumans rather than the titular monster
from baby to an humanoid monster in no time ..thats not very realistic ..secondely he dont look like an hybrid from alien ..he is like the engineer of prometheus.the creators its a bit a mistake..
I meant to say this yesterday but since as of the past couple hours you can watch, a new roughly 10 second teaser has dropped. Looks pretty neat
Sounds good! I wonder how Earth 2120 will be depicted. Dark and dirty? Modestly advanced? Jaws 19 hologram? Hopefully we'll get that teaser soon!
Looks like I may be an outlier here, but the praetomorph from covenant was my favorite. It may just be that iconic shot of the alien staring into the camera, but that shot is chilling to me. The neomorphs I thought were equally as brilliant, and probably the scariest iteration of any alien in any movie.
I think both Covenant and Romulus should get a sequel, kind of like what they are doing with Predator and Prey
Yeah I'll give it that much for sure. This just in though
https://www.joblo.com/covenant-romulus-sequel/https://www.joblo.com/covenant-romulus-sequel/
Interesting coming from the guy who said "The beast in cooked " after it came out. More recently expressed disappointment in doing Covenant instead of Blade Runner 2049
But Romulus was light years better than The Force Awaken though.
I know I'm in the minority on that one lol. The more i think about Romulus the more I'm disappointed with it. It felt like watching The Force Awakens all over again, just the safest movie possible constantly reminding you of the good ol' days.
You're welcome, check out the latest one and download if you want, it's about the Alien Romulus prequel novel. They're doing a good job IMO
I would rather have a sequel to Alien Romulus instead of another David movie, but that's just how I look at it. Alien Romulus was OK, better than the prequels so it was OK, even though it could have been better.
