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Regarding hyperspace travel, this was discovered around the mid 21st century no exact date was ever established. I certainly don't think the distress call was from the Prometheus. It was noted in some early drafts (again I've probably posted this already) that the signal was intercepted a while before the Nostromo left Earth for Thedus, giving the Company time to put Ash on board and reprogramme MU-TH-UR before the Nostromo left Earth in October 2120.

Like you Biomechanic, I look at the films with a very discerning eye. I have also wondered why they would remove their suit helmets. Why David would stick his bare hand in the ampule and extract that biological material, why he isn't wearing full isolation gear when exposing the ship to a potential BIOHAZARD. Unless.....nobody is there watching him, droids are always following their own secret agenda's though right?

I've seen speculation that: They're all wearing their helmets, then the mo-hawk guy gets hit by the acid (destroying his helmet) yet he can still breathe, so the rest of the crew remove theirs.

Well maybe he doesn't have bio-gear on because he's a robot but still yes not smart and could be significant. Don't touch alien matter!

You are definately correct. Very interesting.

my idea is that something very important is going to happen because the sand storm is not "natural" and i think the scene is connected to JAnek face of horrified surprise ... the fact of shaw's fly is a side effect ...i dont think they will place even an alien abduction because they will place another cliche in the movie and there is really no hint about that . So to me the point is ...what cause the sandstorm ? ...a ship landing ? something getting out of the ground ??

I love what you just wrote their Frantz, really I do. At first I just dismissed that all as a storm or wind but after sifting through all the images of it and reading the varied descriptions of it since the trailers hit and now I think you are right and there is a HECK OF A LOT MORE going on their.

Yes, I too feel there's more going on with what looks like a sand storm, or a shock wave from a huge explosion And that idea of something large coming out of the ground is intriguing. AND, I can see all those things blowing against Shaw, but she is sucked INTO it which seems very different!

Oh you are definitely correct with that possibility. In the Prometheus OFFICIAL Trailer Spot #1 she is going through the same thing(making a painful face).. but you see everything around her. But the 2 scenes do not seem to be connected.

ok ...ive just a flash ... The sand storm is the "temple" destroyed ...someonehave triggered something ... or they werent supposed to enter ... ..all that debris arrives exactly from the direction of the temple .. ( ship door was in the direction of it )

wow, there may be creatures running around with duel sets of jaw bones, quick Frantz, jump in this sand hole over here.

shhhh i think ive nailed a big one ...shhhhhhhhh

lmao

Yes, I agree that this abduction theory is highly speculative and cannot be confirmed by hard data. Nevertheless I believe it cannot be dismissed simply for being a cliché - is there anything more of a sci-fi cliché than characters being scanned and lying in pain on medical care stretches? Still, we seem to get a lot of that on this trailer. What we do know from Rapace is that some critical event will happen to Shaw midway through the movie - well, the trailer seems to point out that important things happen to her which are related with medical inspection stuff (also in trailer #1, thx danrald). And I still find very revealing that she seems to be the only one captured by the sandstorm. Why does this happen to the story's main character? All of you seem to agree with me that this sandstorm looks artificial (well, Spartacus apparently agrees via Frantz eheh). I can certainly buy some of the alternatives provided (explosion, etc) but IMO it would be a more appealing alternative to connect it with the weather-control abilities of the race that runs the planet and as a way for them to get to Shaw for some reason. JMHSpeculativeO...

I like this idea much better than my worry of the alien race being conceived by Shaw and Holloway. In fact I don't want them to have sex in the film. However, this doesn't explain how Holloway got infected, as shown in his screaming in the helmet? The Holloway factor is too big to ignore in this film, imo. And I don't much like him either, given his significance.

Well Mac, I am sure the devil would agree with you that human beings are flawed seeing that he is made of fire and humans from stinky clay. Relating to Satans dialoge with God in regards to Satans opinion of his superiority over Man "Give Me Time! and I'll prove that Humans will disobey you!". Even the angels complained to God when he was going to create Adam. I do not agree that the flaw is in the creation but that evil is in the will of choice, but I do agree that it is weird that the creators would look like their creation. Certainly, more of a reflection of the obsession of jealous spirits!

Does that mean they're gonna start standing in line for "Air Jordans?" Plus the very idea of something gnawing away at my liver for all of eternity does not sit well with me. But if your gonna shoot someone fighting over your place in line for "Air Jordans" or for being the guy that created the guy that shot someone while in line for "Air Jordans" I guess that's what you deserve.

"Well Mac, I am sure the devil would agree with you that human beings are flawed seeing that he is made of fire and humans from stinky clay. Relating to Satans dialoge with God in regards to Man "Give Me Time! and I'll prove that Humans will disobey you!". Even the angels complained to God when he was going to create Adam. I do not agree that the flaw is in the creation but that evil is in the will of choice, but I do agree that it is weird that the creators would look like their creation. Certainly a reflection of the obsession of jealous spirits!" By "flawed design" I was only referring to physical qualities of humans, not moral (although a good question too). I was also referring to the apparent (as we have not seen the movie yet) difficulty of having believable human being creators in the story (even if they are not quite god-like) unless they are of the unsavory kind. Well, either way, it is actually incredibly hard to argue that human beings are designed by some intelligent designer who wants to design us in the best possible way; it makes way more sense that we are an outcome of an evolutionary process rather. If you don't believe me try to outrun a cheetah, swim faster than a dolphin, fight a gorilla, ask why we have blind spots on our eyes, why our skeletal structure is so weak, why we have only one heart that is not repairable, why not live more than 120 or so years, and on and on and on. Now we do have highly developed brains which is a clear advantage in survival, but that can also be explained by evolutionary process in a more satisfactory way. Even if we were actually designed by some higher beings, there is no way you can infer this from what we know know about ourselves at this pointing time; and DNA is just another set of atoms arranged in another peculiar way that behave in predictable manner as all other atoms in the universe BTW.

Well, we know not yet where in the evolutionary process the Engineers injected some 'nitrous oxide' into the system, so to speak. So how much more influence they could have had after leaving Earth is up for debate - especially with environmental factors moulding the human race in the meantime. Personally, I would be disappointed if the Engineers resembled human beings too closely. Unless the story indicates that the Engineers were directly responsible for the homo sapiens sapiens branch, close resemblance would be a setback to the plausibility of the story. I call it the [i]Star Trek[/i] cop-out: where [i]all[/i] aliens are humanoid to the point of ridicule - and they speak English... and at the correct pitch. Now of course, the plain English talking is necessary to facilitate dialogue for the benefit of the audience, but the average-height human with the ridged brows or pointy ears passing off for an extra-terrestrial?... it's only to keep production costs down. So I just hope Ridley avoids that route, although the "tall guy" is not helping! Aside: Just to be clear, you can also go too far in the other direction, what I call the [i]Star Wars[/i] freak-out: where [i]all[/i] aliens are invertebrate squiggles. I subscribe to the school-of-thought that suggests most intelligent life-forms would evolve to remotely resemble the humanoid form, because it best facilitates the attainment of intelligence. So the Predator or the Xenomorph are classic examples: distinctly not human, yet anthropomorphically humanoid.

"Well Mac, I am sure the devil would agree with you that human beings are flawed seeing that he is made of fire and humans from stinky clay. Relating to Satans dialoge with God in regards to Man "Give Me Time! and I'll prove that Humans will disobey you!". Even the angels complained to God when he was going to create Adam. I do not agree that the flaw is in the creation but that evil is in the will of choice, but I do agree that it is weird that the creators would look like their creation. Certainly a reflection of the obsession of jealous spirits!" I was only referring to physical qualities of humans and how difficult it is to insert human creators in a story and make it coherent and believable in this day and age. Now if the world of Alien movies is not a human one, or we assume the creators are evil or amoral, then that is another story. I mean, it is certainly possible that an animal like the xenomorph or an alien race could exist, it is not outside the realm of possibilities in the universe we know up to now, but to connect these to God-like beings is another matter (at least not easy in my view).

If we are going to get all relative about how "good" humans are, then I would say in the realm of the universe we are not good or evil we just "are". Good for the planet? Maybe humans are doing exactly what they were designed to do. Advance, kill off other life. Create technology. Are we earths Xenomorph? I don't think spiritual definitions of good and evil have and place in Ridleys universe which makes it more disturbing because it means humans are not only not at the top of the food chain but not chosen by god or anything significant at all.

she is too scared in some sequences to be an android ...imo ...btw yes she is in charge of many things ...

I think she is speaking metaphorically.

Good point Frantz. She looks scared out of her mind in that scene where she hops into the escape pod. I couldn't imagine that behavior out of Ash or Bishop.

Metaphorically than I guess it is.

Janek is the Captain of the [i]ship[/i]. Vickers organized the [i]mission[/i] (funding etc).

aaaaah..."Sherlock Mentos"...thank you. so she's just a cranky suit "biaaatch" !!! I can fix that ! I volunteer !!!

Indeed my dear Watson ; )

hello !! ...yes the road is well made but is also something that can have be done by some bulldozers ...its not paved and or ancient ...and it seems to start from the ship ..so maybe was artificially made by the prometheus crew ? i see other tires traces near ....

I just looked at that road using a 1080P source image. It's not a solid structure like a concrete/asphalt road. The surrounding ground looks very dusty and not packed down (think sand versus clay). My best guesses are that this path was made by vehicles driving back and forth, or the bottom of the ship scraped the ground as it came in for a landing, or they actually pulled something behind the vehicles. As for what's below the chair.. Obviously the egg chamber silly! J/K I think this control room is a multipurpose room that can be configured depending on it's function. Sometimes it's a map room, and sometimes it's a pilot/navigation room.

That's apparently NOT the Prometheus but rather her landing/"drop" ship.

Certainly it must be the landing drop ship @Spartacus. And of course I know that under the chair is the egg chamber. That was a retorical question to start the debate, haha! Mmm... a control room? Really, when you see the trailer, tha chart-map room and this one look very similar (maybe identical). Whatever it is, I found very intriguing that it is exactly over the future-present egg chamber... and connected to it!

Hi @Frantz: Yes the road doesn't look ancient at all, and I think that could have been made by Prometheus' crew, but when I see it, I had the feeling of some kind of temporary or provisional construction made before, like on building or so. Hahaha, maybe I'm just looking for everything in anything with this trailer!!!

Your assuming that this is the same ship that was crashed in LV-426 in ALIEN. I personally don't think it is.

Yes, I think I am. Don't you think that this ship is the same? Is another ship crashing in another planet? Well, it could be, but this made the space-jockeys the worst pilots in all galaxy!

[i]Yes, I think I am. Don't you think that this ship is the same? Is another ship crashing in another planet? Well, it could be, but this made the space-jockeys the worst pilots in all galaxy![/i] The reason I don't think this is the same ship is because of the planet. I don't think it's crashing on LV-426, and it can't be the same ship if it's not on LV-426. Another possibility is that this is actually a franchise reboot with an alternate timeline like they did in the new Trek film.

I'm with you in a way @Jeffomorph: I don't think the [i]entire[/i] movie is located on what we call LV-426, but I think tha crashing scene we see in the trailer it is. What if they go anywhere to find the beginning of our race, they find the temple and the ampules and, in their return to earth they are intercepted by the alien ship and they crash with it? That could explain the explosion we see in the trailer and the rests of another ship that falls to the surface. And I don't think in a reboot in the way of J.J.Abrahams' Star Trek, but maybe in some way: connecting this to ALIEN, but not with the rest of the franchise

I think there is something deeper and darker to the story than the derelict ship being the bomber stork to bring eggs to earth. It wouldn't be an effective planet killer - humans are too advanced and would kill them. We could kill Xenomorphs now and we don't have the future tech in the movie. flu and malaria are better killers. If that ship is meant for earth something worse than Xeno was intended assuming a sinister reason.

Hmm that is interesting. I suppose its conceivable that they might be fleeing from something. And we can just see the shadow. OR Is it the sandstorm? They're running back to the hangar, they get near and we see this happen: [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kxN1nB7EIuY/TvYMDF4NhAI/AAAAAAAABUM/eT19MjAYxYI/s640/head+pick+up.jpg[/img] Then this: [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_moviepic.jpg[/img]

i think they are returning with some injuried people ..thats why they are fast ...imo the sandstorm is the explosion of the temple ,,, and it happen after they have returned ( shaw is probably carryng a bag with "something " inside )