Daniels fights off Aliens in new Alien: Covenant movie still!

Interesting image and more to add to trying to piece together a Plot.... and structure (wander the more we see these, the more people question the 4Chan Leak).

its lighter in this shot.... yet its more of a none natural light, so its in a dark environment....   this light is off artificial light or from fire or something.

Trying to think its this part of the Covenant?

The Rescue Drop Ship? (as they do get back off Paradise)

or near some Engineer Construction but it lacks the Bio-Mechanical Toned down look of the Juggernaughts.

And looks to modern for the Ancient Temple Architecture.

Looking at the scene, and blood which is not her own Blood..  unless she has a small cut to eyebrow?

It looks set after this shot which (if its a actual scene in the movie) is set at Night.

I would like to know if this shot is Promotional or else its a Red Herring that would potentially put a lot of my piece together the movie work which i will do.. off track...

If it is in the movie... then its not maybe directly after the new shot in the OT... as the Weapon is different.

Well different Optic Assistance, Different Muzzle break and maybe lacks a Forwards Hand grip

 

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Well I hope she comes into her own element rather than become a poor man's Ripley. We don't need Ripley knock-offs; we need well written characters, which hopefully Waterston will portray effectively (I've never seen her films before).

This image leads me to believe we'll have a little Prometheus, Alien and Aliens!

This image leads me to believe 

Is it just me or is the gun Daniels is holding in this new still different from the one Big Dave referenced...? The one in the new still does not seem to have a muzzle like the other one does.

This is a promotional still. 

The gun Daniels is using in the new still looks like the same gun that the man next to her is using in the still from Big Dave's reply. The new still is probably plotted after the still in Big Dave's reply. I don't think it's a promotional still. 

Indeed she has obtained a different Gun, this happens for sure if she runs out of Ammo in the one gun...

Its low resolution but it could be the Male in this image, either gives his Gun to Daniels or he dies and she takes it... 

This Shot i think is a massive one... it would be a Promotional one... but also a shot that could be in the movie... 

Its a very important Shot that gives a lot of clues...

I think it has as much significance as this Aliens Poster

So i think once AC is out it would be a Promotional one..

The shot of the Male with Daniels thus has to be importance... she looks afraid in that shot.. but the next shot she looks Angry and Bad Ass...

Between those shots could be that Moment Daniels Transforms to that Ripley Mold Character...

I made a in depth look on the Leaky leaks Topic...

And i can only match it to Rigby (how dies earlier, and if he is not dead at this point... why is Daniels afraid).  Or could be Walter, but there are some differences (side burns).

And so why is that shot framed so you cant see the Person?

I still think there is a chance its James Franco... they have to make it off the Planet... i would assume the majority of the 10 Crew who went down.. dont make it back...  (ive already done a Body Count lol)  leave that for another Topic.

So we have McBride, Smollett , Scaletti and Hernandez on the Covenant...  we have also Haubrich who i think she will be the one who sees Crudrup get Chest Busted after he gets back to the Covenant.

So who do they send down?  The Covenant is Large and make sense to send another Drop Ship... maybe Smaller one?

Goran D. Kleut is unaccounted for but i dont think he would play a Member of the Crew.... he could be the Mystery person 7 in my Post i did on the Leak Topic....

But i am still banking that he would play a Engineer or be the guy in the Xenomorph Suit.

Even though I have'nt seen the film, for Chrissakes, not sure whom I hate more... Daniels or Shaw. 

Looking at that promo pic with the rather present day looking firearm and then comparing it to the Aliens poster, I still find it hard to grasp that AC is actually an Alien film. 

It's amazing how such a minor detail can determine your view on things, maybe it's because the M41A pulse rifle was so iconic and used in so many comics and games. 

I do however find similarities between the AC promo pic and the Aliens teaser, with the former echoing the bluish tone and the female warrior attitude from the Aliens poster.

I find the weapon debate interesting. Hicks states in Aliens that they have state of the art weapons (although carries a very familiar and present day looking shotgun as well!). They are a specialised military outfit. This makes sense that they would have some weaponry that looks more futuristic than present day weapons (there will be 'state of the art' weaponry in existence today that is produced in low volume for covert use that no doubt looks more 'futuristic' than, for example, a M15).

However, Prometheus and Covenant are both non-military ventures. Despite WY obvious interest in bio-weapons, and possible manufacture of military weaponry, they are still non-military ventures - neither with a primarily conflict focussed agenda.

So, it really isn't a stretch to conceive that conventional weaponry (still shoot bullets not lasers) don't look all that different 100 or so years from now. The M41A is, after all, an automatic rifle with a grenade launcher - the shape of the body makes it look more scifi than it probably is.

The weapon Daniels is holding in this photo is probably the same one the man is holding in the other photo (note she's also wearing the same jacket and gloves - stands to reason there is a continuation between the two shots). Whether or not it is a promo image is yet to be seen, regardless, the image is likely to have been taken on-set, either during production or between takes, so the I'd suggest that it is reflecting events leading up to the image being taken (and as others have said, with a hat tip to Aliens), rather than a staged/propped photo of KW looking badass with a random gun and staged head cut.

Look up Weyland storm rifles but have not seen a single weapon that looks like one in any pics yet.

 

I loved Ripley in alien, then she was rewritten into a mommy for newt in aliens, ( then they kill newt )and I've been biting my tongue for years as the hollywood commercialization machine has gutted the lifer warrant officer and with each new director, a flavor of the day Ripley. It's embarrassing. I'm not anti Ripley just pro Alien, and I was relieved when Shaw wasn't relegated into a Ripley clone, ( no pun intended ). I'm hoping that this movie doesn't become an Alien  fanboy 2.0 wet dream, ( and I consider myself an Alien fanboy ) where we lose original thought, Ridley please keep up the good work of alien and Prometheus. I hope I'm not being prejudiced but that photo of Daniels is kind of turning me off, hope I'm wrong and she is not Ripleys mom, daughter, or reincarnation. :-)

The movies gonna rock !!! :-) :-) :-)   I feel better.

@Noonespecial - yep, so this proves they exist - my point is they co-exist with 'conventional weapons'. As mentioned, why would a non-military colonisation mission need a high tech satellite guided target detecting weapon that can track and assess a threat over 300 miles away??????

And unless you count the Covenant as a satellite (providing a small arc of coverage), that tech would not work on a planet with no satellite network, so essentially it becomes a standard point and shoot weapon.

So why waste money on high tech weapons for a possible threat that as yet has not been seen on previous surveyed worlds - like buying a top end gaming rig to just browse the internet and check your email. All it says is that they are carrying weapons as a precaution for security - they're not packing for a military style assault.

I liked all transformations of Ripley as they showcased Weaver's dramatic range throughout the series.

I'd say her performance in Alien Resurrection were among her greater ones (minus a few horrible lines and no matter how the film turned out), as she managed to brilliantly portray something that was resurrected inhuman with signs of struggling to remember her past life.

Her bursts of animalistic (alien) rage, instincts and intelligence were cleverly realized in scenes where the scientists tried to prove that the Xenos could be controlled. 

She rarely if ever broke character and played this clone of Ripley who really died as a human person back at the end of A3, and now turned out a resurrected experiment.

 

In AC with Daniels I think there's the ever so important message that everybody can change, and that she becomes more of the warrior we saw Ripley as in Aliens but in a different take based on the circumstances and who she is.

Katherine Waterston looks awesome!!!

As far as the Weapon Debate... i covered this on a Topic a number of weeks ago....              

As MuzzleNZ pointed out... maybe the more specialist Tech is reserved for the Military and more Expensive Funded Missions.. the Covenant is not a State of the Art Prometheus or even a Military Ship..  The movie is set some 75 years before Aliens and so we dont know when the break through from the Weapons we see in Alien Covenant  to Pulse Riffles in Aliens happened.

Also as i mentioned in the other Topic weeks ago... the Principle of the Gun has not changed in hundreds of years.

I will say however that Prometheus Security Weapons seemed to use a different Propellant than  the guns we use today... we have seen no shots of the AC Guns being fired and so we cant say what the Propellant is and maybe we cant assume its Gunpowder based like we have in our Fire Arms as of today

I will further add that the Prometheus Fire Arms seemed more advanced than in Aliens as far as Propellant..

Back to the Original Photo in main Topic...  here is a few clues.. which i had mentioned earlier.

*Daniels seems angry in this shot.. its like this is that Moment she has to Grow a Pair of Grapefruits and Transforms as a Character... which Waterston has said her Character has a very Trans-formative Arc... and indeed similar to Ripleys.

So this Scene or just before could be that moment or just after that moment when something happens.... that forever Changes her... pretty much like maybe Shaw after seeing Holloway get Torched, then realizing she has been infected with something.

*The Gun does look similar to the one the Male in the other Shot of her had...

*Maybe the Blood is not hers but from that Male?  and so maybe the death of this Male is partly a reason for her having to Transform from a Mere Teraformist to a Female much like Ripley from Aliens.

*The other Shot, if its from the movie is framed similar to the Ripely and Newt Scene... Daniels is Terrified.. the Male is Kept Secret from us....   such a iconic Shot that is bound to be used as Promotional Work... where as the other is the Alien Head (much like Aliens was the Queens).

So this image has to be of great importance and its the scene that Transforms Daniels from Terrified Teraformist to Alien Ass Kicking Heroine...

Now its a case of who would be put in such a iconic scene with Daniels?  only a handful of cast who fit the Bill who was sent down to Paradise... Each has clues against them which i covered in a Topic on the so called Real Leaks post... as i attempt to provide clues that show the 4chan leak is False

 

Looking at latter shots of her... which we surely say are on the Covenant or Rescue Ship...  she again has this same Gun...

So she has obtained this Weapon off the Person she was standing with in this scene...

She does not appear in latter shots to have any scars or wounds.. and so this Blood is maybe from the Person she is in this shot with...

WHO THIS PERSON IS...

I feel is important....  i have studied the cast and scenes and trailer in Depth...  and unless Ridley has made a mistake with Wardrobe from Scene to Scene...  or a Drop Ship had landed prior to the one we saw in the Trailer..

Then only Benjamin Rigby matches it, but it appears Waterston has her pivitvol moment after this shot, that leads to the Shot in the OT.... and that Gun.. a moment she transforms from Terrified Tera-formist to Alien Ass Whooping (or attempt) Ripley kind of Character.

But she is scared in this image... why before Rigby gets infected?

So i think its not Rigby...... which means it could be Walter (Hair is different and back pack and coat) or its someone else they are keeping a Surprise ;)

I think as others have said, to me this is probably James Franco (I believe his character is predicted to be Daniels husband). It's almost certainly not Walter (hair/posture not reminiscent of Fassbender) and does look like it may be Franco. We don't know when Franco's character dies, but it seems to me, his death (or at the least, Daniels protecting him while he lies wounded) is potentially the catalyst for Daniels to become a badass, and the shot of Daniels with his gun. Would follow that if they are shooting, Franco goes down, she may grab his gun when she is out of ammo. 

It make sense that if the first drop ship explodes, another will need to come down. I'm wondering whether Franco comes on the second one to pick up survivors, but dies before they can leave. Would stand to reason this would be far enough in to the movie for Daniels to 'transform' into the Ripley-esque character. If the first part of the film is about the events of the landing party, then Franco would get little screen time (as has been suggested) until he's needed, if he remains on the ship, but once he comes down to the rescue, gets killed off quickly.

I don't mind, as long as Franco doesn't fall down an air vent, into some water, getting grabbed by a Neomorph, with the only trace of him remaining being his teddy bear bobbling in the disturbed water, followed by Daniels locating him with his 'colonist PDTs', gets Walter to fly her in the drop ship to the Engineers Temple, at risk of imminent collapse, and wait for her while she heads down into the depths, finds him, David, and a bunch of eggs, fires her flame thrower, gets back to the surface........... yeah, I know, you get the point ;)

@MuzzleNZ

Nice to see you thinking as i have been ;)

It would add to the Story Arc of her Character.... 

Crew go down, Hell Breaks Loose... Drop Ship blows.. up...

Crew stranded...... Franco either comes out of Cryo-sleep... or his unit fails but he is in Medical Lab..... recovers... finds out his Wife is in trouble... 

He is warned not to go down.....   he is then like Stuff you lot... im going to get my Wife..

Arrives... saves her... get to the ship near enough he is wounded, he gives her his weapon and says he loves her and to go..... or similar... 

This is how she gets blood on her... she then leaves in the rescue drop ship which is Piloted by James  Franco and  Tess Haubrich they bring back a David/Walter a Crudrup who the David/Walter says banged his head.. (so crew see no infection and trust the Walter)....  

When on board Daniels is taken away to be comforted and Haubrich is left to check on Crudrup who then Chest Bursts in front of her..

To me this kind of would work... again the Shower Scene causes a Problem... because how does the Xeno get on board otherwise?

And how does it grow so fast, to then kill off Hernandez and Scaletti because otherwise the crew would find Haubrich  who says whats happened to Crudrup... or the crew find them both dead...

Then who in the right mind would want to go take a Sexy Shower knowing something is on the loose...

SPOILER........

It makes little sense that Franco is killed off at the start.... the 4chan leak claims he dies off screen, and Daniels plays back a video message off him... that the only role he plays..

I would say the main Characters for this movie as far as Statue... are Fassbender, Pearce,  Franco, Waterston and then i guess McBride... with Cudrup coming next....

These guys have been given main Characters... Fassbender David/Walter.... Waterston the leading lady.. McBride the ships main Pilot... Cudrup Captain .... and it would be logical that Franco would play a big role... and Captain who dies off screen is a cop out....

But having him come to the rescue for short movie time would fit perfect...

 

Only evidence against this...

Would be as a rescue mission why would he carry a Back Pack?

So again we have to go to it being Walter... but hair is a bit different? But its hard to tell...... Why not reveal it as Walter? maybe its a game of Cat and Mouse and to tease us.... lead us to think its someone other than Walter/David.

But then as i put on this Topic

The Cave Face Hugging scene... David/Walter is not wearing the same Shirt David had last in Prometheus... but this top in the cave scene looks similar to what Walter is wearing under the Blue Hoody.

So for Walter/David to be standing with Daniels... this scene would have had to happened before the Face Hug Scene... but then....  if this is Walter... when does he take Cudrup after this scene to get Face Hugged or at what time would David be able to trade clothes and places with Walter?

If the Scene is after Crudrup..  we have questions too, as to where and who was Daniels with while Walter is with Crudrup... or David does the Switch-a-roo?

Also the Person with Daniels seems to have slightly different coat and equipment and different boots to Walter in the Woods scene.

Only evidence against this...

Would be as a rescue mission why would he carry a Back Pack?

So again we have to go to it being Walter... but hair is a bit different? But its hard to tell...... Why not reveal it as Walter? maybe its a game of Cat and Mouse and to tease us.... lead us to think its someone other than Walter/David.

But then as i put on this Topic

The Cave Face Hugging scene... David/Walter is not wearing the same Shirt David had last in Prometheus... but this top in the cave scene looks similar to what Walter is wearing under the Blue Hoody.

So for Walter/David to be standing with Daniels... this scene would have had to happened before the Face Hug Scene... but then....  if this is Walter... when does he take Cudrup after this scene to get Face Hugged or at what time would David be able to trade clothes and places with Walter?

If the Scene is after Crudrup..  we have questions too, as to where and who was Daniels with while Walter is with Crudrup... or David does the Switch-a-roo?

Also the Person with Daniels seems to have slightly different coat and equipment and different boots to Walter in the Woods scene.

I think its rather obvious at some point the drama of the movie will be telling wich one is david and wich one is walter apart from the alien action..many scenes we will be left wondering what happened to david..wich in fact we should wonder what happened to walter...because hes gonna be long time fucked. This is the core of the movie. And why the first 4chan leak was so confusing the guy got confused because it wasnt walter after all but david all along...walter was destroyed at some point in the movie..still we will play this guessing game for sometime. 

I wonder if weyland yutani is playing the game with david..because they send same android appearance maybe to make covenant team feel safer and trust a familiar face when they arrive..ofc aswell to give us the guess who is who drama and sacrifice walter in the end..rather obvious hollywood plot formula that works since the 40s.

It could easily be Daniels or Crudup's backpack Franco has on @BigDave- he's come to get them, grabs the gear etc. Or it could be his own (standard gear for a planet descent).

I too think it's unlikely Franco dies early off screen. Perhaps I'm too soft, but I would find it hard to believe that if Daniels' husband is part of the crew and dies right at the start, that she would smile much at all in this movie (see 0:46 in the trailer). That particular brief clip looks like she's possibly in a hanger/outside a shuttle/dropship - I don't think it's in sequence with the next shots of the cockpit.

Information from KW herself indicates there's an evolution in her character 'when she's tested'. I doubt that happens right at the start of the film.

However, the clip at 1:29 in the trailer also suggests that the two people running toward the exploding ship are Daniels and the mystery man (with a cap on his head, and a camera/torch arm extended from the backpack).

I'm also going to put it out there - I think the drop ship is too small (based on outside shots and interior shots at 0:55 in the trailer) for any of the alien 'bursting' scenes we've seen/heard about to occur in. Unless there is another larger ship on the surface at some point, I suspect all the alien action happens on the Covenant. It's hard to see that med bay being in the drop ship shown on the surface. It also stands to reason that there is an incubation/gestation period for any of the alien types, so wonder if the sick/face hugged crew are ferried back to the Covenant, which creates the potential for there to be concurrent 'action' occurring on the surface, as well as hell breaking loose on the Covenant.

I realise people will say 'but the neomorph is shot in the dropship and the dropship blows up'. To me, there could be a couple of alternative scenarios to this - one, that's true, but the neomorph is not the same one we see back bursting in the trailer; two, the neomorph came back down to the planet in a ship (part of the ferry back and forward theory). It is, of course, pure speculation, but as @BigDave has said, very rarely do trailers depict a sequential summary of the plot - they are cut (usually) to engage the viewer, give a sense of what they will see in the movie, without stepping through all the key pieces of the plot.

I'm highly sceptical about the leaked plot. While some parts may be real (through various aspects being leaked) I doubt the authenticity of the early/test cut claim, and suspect it's likely someone has either extrapolated small snippets of real info into a full plot summary, or just speculated and made the whole thing up.

I like that picture of Daniels, cool. It looks like she is in a tough situation, probably firing at some monsters. The surrounding seems kind of light so I wonder where that is located.

 

King Death: How can you hate a character that you haven’t seen in action? That doesn’t make sense. Wait until you see the movie, give her a chance.

 

Movie fan: I agree

Weyland Storm rifle first released in 2024, how is it state of the art and it was considered the forerunner to the Pulse rifle.

Prometheus was 2094.........Covenant 2104??

80 year old tech.....lol

The .45 Colt M1911 has been in service for over 100 years.

The weapon debate is a little old TBH. We know the aesthetic in AC is more in line with Alien than Aliens or Prometheus. It's like debating why they have so many buttons (in an age of holograms and touch screens). Reality is, trusty old buttons have worked for a couple of hundred years.

They've got weapons, they've got buttons on their consoles. Move on........