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MemberOvomorph12/22/2011O.K. the biggest talking point appears to be- what is stood there as the space jockey chair rises up? Is it the engineer? a mutated human? A grey?
Anyone got an fresh ideas?
I for one am very worried after seeing this
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Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Just think if Dallas and Lambert had of had a closer look at the jockey they would have found a human skeleton inside. Maybe Shaw. Hell that's the last thing I would have dream't of for the last 30 years. What a coup. Scott you bloody genius.

Scidley
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011I created a looping GIF extracting the Space Jockey Chair sequence in High Resolution. It´s about 20MB so please be patient with that file to load completely:
[url=http://bit.ly/vhxtGw]http://bit.ly/vhxtGw[/url]

Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Thanks Scidley that is excellent. That guy has some strange muscular stuff going on.

RaymondKnight
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011I have been reading this thread and feel like I have something to say. It makes sense that biomechanisms are an invention of the SJ's, a way to make a living organism with the purpose of a machine. This would allow them to integrate with their technology for perfect communication. I do not think it makes sense for the SJ's to actually BE biomechanical, they use to to create a guidance system for piloting, to make beings/slaves to do their work, and to create a creature as a weapon. Since it makes sense I think it is a better route than just satisfying us with some crazy creature that is the SJ (then we would be disappointed that it didn't make any sense). If Ridley Scott wants to make it humanoid, it will flow with the story AND he will make it really cool, not like other movies that just throw those ideas around.

The High Priest
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Great work Scidley - Just by doing that you have thrown new light onto the entire landscape.

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011I totally agree what Scott will do will have pure purpose and be convincing. The sj world must be credible. His left arm does look boi-mechanical though?

The High Priest
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Mutation seams to be a key element of this movie. The SJ in the original Alien was also a mutation of humanoid (SJ) in Scidleys loop?

Frantz
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011i think he is maybe a survivor ( like the other mutated "jumping" guy ) or maybe a bot ... i dont see him being a spacejockey ( it would suck btw ) ..to me is the same person on a wheelchair in another sequence
the neck to me is part of the suit ..not of the body

alteredstate.
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011i cant belive people are comparing m night shamalyn to a ridley scott scott film for f**k sake whats the matter with you people,
you spend to much time blind speculating next thing you will be comparing fassbenders acting to adam sandler.

Mentos
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011[b]@Scidley[/b] that's pretty brilliant, good job!
Just a thought..
[img]http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g471/muromachi/prometheus-giant.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images.castcall.blue-compass.com.s3.amazonaws.com/portfolio/457/457537.jpg[/img]
Above is [b]Matthew Rook[/b] as we all know he was penned a while back as the [b]Elder Engineer[/b] on [i]Castingcallpro[/i].
Is it just me or are there siliaritiers between the shape of his head and the shape of the [i]"Giant's"[/i]?

birdman
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011OK.... Here's what I think about the figure in the Jockey Chamber. It is def a humanoid, and maybe twice the size of the human in the spacesuit in the same Chamber during the star map scene. The human in the middle of the round platform is moving it's arm about like directing the star map or something. If you compare the scale of this human in the center of the star map in control of it, and the humanoid when the chair rises, the humanoid is much bigger....looks like it can sit in the chair comfortably.
Mutated human or something else... What do you think?

Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Looks like Matthew Rook good eye mentos. He still looks CGI to me though lol.

alteredstate.
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011i dont think neville page who specialises in creature design has spent months with this film sying he has worked harder on this project than anything else (quotes from the horses mouth) he has worked on to come up with a bald grey skin guy.
Get a grip and trust in ridley.

Mentos
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011[b]@Biomechanic[/b] thank you sir. I agree, he seems to have a CG glow to his torso.

eggchamber
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Compare the head and face of that figure to the guy in the wheelchair at 00:00:43 in the trailer.

The High Priest
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011the thing that romanced, excited, and scared me in equal measures about the original Alien was just how "alien" Gigers Space Jockey and Derilect craft really were. I totaly bought into the realism of how it looked. This for me reflected just how different a species was if we were to make contact with another lifeform. I am just nervous that Prometheus will destroy the real twisted mystery and bizzarenes and otherworldliness of the Space Jockey. I hope alteredstate is right, as I agree its gonna be a crying shame if the Space Jockeys are Giant versions of humans, and the reason the one in the derilict is so "alien" is beacause it is a fucking suit, or a "mutation".

Frantz
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011i think everyone will hate that High Priest ... i hope is our geeks that see too much in that ... its not possible to hold them ....:D

HybridVigor
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011I think he's the Space Jockey preparing to fuse with his bio-mechanical suit/chair.

aintnozeno
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Still wondering if those two big horizontal objects on the floor are cryo tubes or something like it. Maybe that's where the boi-mech suits are stored? They look like Giger's version of a coffin- complete with visors for viewing the inhabitant.

Raven
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011also if you look at the SJ chair there appears to be something in the form of a head rest on the back part of the SJ chairmaybe a 'helmet" that when the guy walking on the room sits down wraps aroung his head as does the rest of the suit becoming "one " with the chair. Just a thought.

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011This does look cgi in fact that whole scene is. The SJ could be done in CGI for the full movie with no character listing. I think it's very likely and I am also disappointed to some degree. But if the SJ invented mankind he might well have done it in his own image. After all our children look like us. It will be fascinating to see how he might communicate with the crew

mstaJ
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011From the very first time I saw Alien, I ALWAYS believed the SJ was in a suit. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. Just because he is "alien" doesn't mean he's cannot be harmed by "space" like humans.
Plus, if you read the recent interview by Ridley Scott, he talks about how we, humans, came to be, and how Prometheus touches on it. If according to Prometheus, we are descendants/created of/by the SJ than awesome. They created us and the xenomorphs. It's not far fetched at all to believe other "alien" species would resemble us, just as it's not farfetched to believe they'd be 100% different. All in all, we won't know until we actually see other extraterrestrials and must remember this is a movie and it's in Ridley's hands. Who else can you trust to do a prequel/story of the SJ in an Alien Universe other than the man who made the first? (James Cameron doesn't count. Aliens was great, but too action heavy compared to the scifi horror Alien is.)
Whatever Ridley does with this movie, I have 100% faith in him.

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011hmmm...yes close up that guy looks a bit more non human....that looks like a rather impressive suit he is wearing tho.....perhaps he is the other person with white blood!...maybe a more obvious model!

Tromatizer
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Honestly, that could just be an actor standing in for the space jockey. Sometimes trailers have incomplete, alternate or promotional only scenes, especially when there exists such a detail oriented fan community who will tear apart the trailer scene by scene. It is possible, however, that the rumored plot leak could be partially true in that the crew changes genetically, so that bald guy (assuming he's not a stand in) may turn into the space jockey.

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph12/22/2011Yes we need to consider a lot of this trailer may never be seen again. Check out the trailer for Alien3. I believe the movie scenes are all now complete so its CGI and cut and past for six months. Lots could change
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