Metallic look of things

Frantz
MemberOvomorphDecember 28, 20112319 Views37 RepliesITs only me or everything we have saw until now in prometheus is "Mechanic/Metallic" without the "Bio" ?
...the ampules are metallic ..with Bio they become Eggs ....
the Metallic "spider" that David extract from the urn ...with Bio it become a Face hugger
the supposed SJ have a metallic suit ...with "bio" it become a biomechanical suit
the SJ "chair" look so clean and shiny ...it miss the bio "fused" part ( CGI maybe )
Its like everything in the temple is metallic and is "waiting" the "Bio" to evolve
i also found that interesting image ..watch the nose
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December 28, 2011
But the similarity is only at first glance...
Prometheus - In the ampule room the "ampules" are arranged en-masse around a large "head" icon.
Alien - In the egg chamber the eggs are arranged in troughs, that weave and wind through the under-belly of the Derelict.
What I'm saying is, is that the ampules are not arranged into troughs, like the eggs were. The only similarity between the ampules and the eggs are that there are lots of them.
December 28, 2011
and that they have inside something that resemble a metallic face hugger ... and that in both rooms there is a sort of laser ... and that probably many people will die because of them :p
December 28, 2011
Metallic Facehugger? That is somewhat a subjective view. Seeing what you want, than what there is...
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What I see is metal X-shaped apparatus, with a holder (that David is holding) with a vial hanging off each arm of the X-shaped apparatus, all incubated in some organic matter. One thing I do not see is a "Metallic Facehugger".
As for a laser/laser-mist in the ampule room, I do not see one...
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December 28, 2011
the idea of cocooned people turning into eggs with face-huggers lurking inside.....just seems a bit more far fetched than an alien queen actually laying them....sorry...if the queen does burst threw some one's stomach I will neither be disappointed or be outraged at the thought of Ridley embracing the ideas that was created in aliens....right now that is the only thing that makes sense to me....
i don't mind if he brings his own artistic vision to the whole plot....but i don't see why he should completely abandon what other directors did in the sequels....surely he is not that egotistical...I think cameron's ideas was brilliant...and aliens was every bit as amazing as alien....but it is very difficult to compare those films..(Alien vs. Aliens)...they where too different.
So it was a human ship with all the crew turned into eggs?...i dunno!
December 28, 2011
I think the urns and eggs are clearly two separate things: The urns are manufactured containers for SJ biomechanical technology, and the eggs are a [i]result[/i] of that technology. If the mist in the original "Alien" was a form of protection, it was definitely in the form of a trap. When that layer was broken, it clearly triggered one of the eggs to become active and open.
December 28, 2011
Something clearly happens that leads to the fusion of Bio and Mecha. It makes sense to me. To be realistic, IMHO it isn't a necessary for technology to be a painstaking visual effect vs. Being operational. I'm an engineer and look at it from that point of view. I honestly don't obsses over it because quite frankly it's just a movie but it's a brilliant story Alien and all. I mean there are people here who will be upset if it isn't the way they envisioned it to be...lmfao . Blade Runner, Legend, Alien...these films put you into this world with his devotion to building these worlds and the vision in which they are built are amazing and to such detail. I'll take what ever Ridley has to offer and hope he delivers which I think he will but I don't have single minded vision of this. My vision is open. I can't wait for the movie but at the end of the day, if and only if it's on the mind, it's not all that's there.
December 28, 2011
there are red lasers in the ampule room or temple and the effect they do on things is very similar to the blue fog .
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also the "thing" extracted by david seems to be ..a bit more complicated than a simple vial /phial whatever .
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December 28, 2011
Frantz, I think the red lasers are most likely a form of scanning/mapping technology deployed by the humans.
December 28, 2011
is true for the red lasers BUT he seems a bit surprised ... remember that this scene is probably followed by a slaughter ( we have an image of probably this guy screaming and there is the mohawk guy in the background )
snok ..if i look at the whole object ive to look at that sort of tail too ...not only the top .
December 28, 2011
I think the crew are laser scanning the room in particular the alien relief on the wall. A science team of course would document their research and that technology does not look alien to me. In Alien we aren't suppose to know that the blue mist was created by a laser that was just what the effects team used. It was simply a way to realize Giger's concept. A glowing mist itself was just surrounding the eggs and I always thought it was to give the eggs a warning that their was life near.
December 28, 2011
I think the jacked-up bald dude is most likely an SJ. You can see all kinds of biomechanical stuff going on with this figure, which is probably a CGI overlay on a motion-captured, digital enlargement of some jacked-up actor. We're likely to see significantly more of the actual biomechanical workings of the non-human characters in this movie than we ever saw in "Alien." As good as it was, the alien xenomonster would have fallen apart in terms of credibility, had we ever gotten a good, long, brightly lit look at it. At the end of the day, it was really just a tall guy in a rubber suit with some animatronics......and gallons of slime.
December 28, 2011
I see the story about humans being used to ressurect the dyeing Engineers. It makes complete sense that the metalic ampules are used to maintain genetic code which will transform a vessel (a specially designed vessel; namely a human) into an Engineer or something else. My theory is the wheelchair man comes into contact with a very small amount of the bioformer when the team discover the alien dna on Earth and he slowly starts to transform into a part human / part Engineer, maintaining some of his human morals. The others who come into contact with concentrated bioformer are less compassionate to humans or more concerened with their own resurrection ................. This being the case I believe the large humanoid is the part human / part engineer, but I'm hoping their will be something more Space Jockey like :)
December 28, 2011
I'd go with a lot of that. What is likely is that the jockeys are waiting for the arrival of humans and intend to interact and share their knowledge with them. Maybe use them to regenerate their species. But the crew get greedy setting off a war.
December 28, 2011
I still don't hold out and hope for any crazy monster xenos not even toward the end.
December 28, 2011
From Ridley Scott in June, 2011
"The (space) journey, metaphorically, is about a challenge to the gods. NASA and the Vatican agree that is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way. That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric von Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about."
It involves the hypothesis that the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by ancient astronauts who were welcomed as gods."
The explanation goes further as to interpret the drawing you see here below from tomb of Mayan ruler Pakal as a possible comparison to the Space Jockey seen in Alien, a character Scott has already said would be central to the Prometheus story.
I am not sure about that "Micro Changes" But I am More and More sure of one thing more than anything else the closer we get to June...and it is this...
This film is going to spend a lot of time focusing on the Engineer's !!!
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December 29, 2011
Scott's own words regarding the xenomorth, "he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando and no way am I going back there"; instead, the alien will be reenvisioned as a progenitor of the received form of the Xenomorph, and Scott contacted H. R. Giger for possible artistic collaboration.
pro·gen·i·tor
Noun:
A person or thing from which a person, animal, or plant is descended or originates; an ancestor or parent.
................. I have high hopes we will see a creatures, especially looking at the amount of references to preduction crew related to effects, design, puppetry, etc both to creature design and prostethics :)))