My ALIEN 3 'fan-edit' proposal...with a TWIST!

Snorkelbottom, 'Windows Movie Maker' seems to be pretty basic as you say, and doesn't seem to be rated highly by the guys that are proficient at 'fan-editing'. Not sure about a totally free version of a decent piece of software being available for this kind of thing, but it seems that the 'Sony Vegas' software is available as a free 30-day trial download if you ever feel like trying it out for yourself. Here's a link to a table which compares the different features in the various versions of it - [url=http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope/compare]http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope/compare[/url] And here's a link to the various downloads. From what I can gather from what some 'fan-editors' have posted in the past, 'Sony Vegas Movie Studio' is a well-thought-of editor which offers lots of features and gives excellent results - [url=http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials]http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials[/url] See what you think.

You might try [url=http://www.lightworksbeta.com/]Lightworks[/url]. It is well spoken of but I don't like it's interface. EDIT: Here is a good [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK4ogYgnm4I]tutorial[/url] that lets you know what you are getting.

Just FYI you guys cause I know this stuff I really do.... Try Ulead Video Editor I am telling you it rocks the house and is easy and simple and quick to install and has a slew of options all the others do not. Specifically perfect for what you are trying to do, plus you can use the wav/avi/wmv editor to split and re arrange sound files and special effects. I am telling you it's perfect for what you want to do.

i actually quite like the look of that, kind of a cross between UE3's matinee and Magix Music Maker 17 (which I have)

Ah, but is it free

I'll get you a link man

[url=http://download.cnet.com/Ulead-VideoStudio/3000-2194_4-10529023.html]30DayFreeTrialUlead[/url]

Ever helpful Sparky lol, thanks man

I am looking for all the diff versions for you now some of the special edition downloads they have are awesome!!!

Here's a Fabulous One man [url=http://ulead-videostudio.en.softonic.com/]FabulousEditor[/url]

Okay sparks I have added the ultimate edition to my wish list, but to be honest its only a little bit better that movie maker

OK here is what I have been doing I just downloaded and installed the editor I gave you in the 2nd link It is Unbelievable and FREE It is ULEADS video studio editor 10 PLUS IMO the single best editor out there! It has EVERYTHING which one did you install? P.S. it prompts the user at the install to tell it what country you are from which means which version you want to use and then PAL or NTSC do NOT miss this you have to select PAL for what you are doing I however am using NTSC I could select PAL and do this project as was requested of me first, BUT I want YOU to do it !!! And I want you to use THIS editor so please tell me you downloaded and installed from the 2nd link not the 1st, right?

sadly the 2nd one I just discovered is just a 30 day trial but thats all you need is 30 days to do this project.

OMG I am using it now and it is AWESOME, it is just like the one I got with my Cap card and it has Everything Snorky, ask me questions if you need any help but WOW you can do everything you would want with it and it is a piece of cake to use once you now how.

What I need is a video editor with multiple sound channels, effects channels, at least 1 preferable two video channels, plenty of transition effects, the ability to import and export in many many formats, to change the resolution and possible the frame rate used etc.

has all of that just playing with all that right now

dude The ONLY editor out there that has more than that 2nd one is Adobe's and it is so big it takes about 1 hour + to install let alone figure out..I use that for some stuff and this for 90% of my projects....and I'll help you if you need any but it sounds like you already know what you wanna do so that's awesome... I cannot believe you do not already know about the timeline on this thing.

WOAH... Hold on a minute cervantes, you want an edit where Hicks and Newt survive... It could be done but they would be left and the sulaco - you would need to delete all scenes referencing them... 1. Intro would be much shorter 2. Andrews log 3. Newts autopsy 4. The cremation 5. Clemens reference to the acid burn on the pod ...and probably others I can't think of right now.

Thanks Sparky I'll purchase it from Amazon in a few weeks

I make Titles and credits in other programs now and then import them into this thing as video clips. You should see what I can do with titles now, I am the KING. LOL.

check out the opening titles on this one and the ending too I think the credits will blow you away what I did that is... turn up your surround the song is awesome [url=http://vimeo.com/10892300]AutomaticThrill[/url]

Honestly Sparks, don't wanna hurt your feelings and all... but that's entry level stuff, the sound was good, hearing the game and the music, but the opening credits and the effects, not so good. Sorry :(

That's OK My feeling's aren't hurt it's a socom video and was made that way... I am not sure you understand what I am talking about or that you understand timelines and how they work. If that footage was of Alien 3 you would understand what I mean, I will show you something else yet again...gimme a minute

[url=http://vimeo.com/10572057]BetterTitles[/url] Snorky I am trying to show you how easy it is to transition clips together and make fantastic titles The stuff that goes by real quick here at the beggining of this one is way way more polished...and I have several that are way way more polished than this but am trying to find them for you. The whole point is regardless of the quality you want you can do professional style titles. In your case All of the footage will come from Alien 3 itself so there will be No Quality control issues, the credits will match the ones in the film. If you wish to make your own as I said you will have to use a third party graphical program to do that such as Adobe if you want professional looking ones... but you'll see a big jump here in the quality and I have several others like I said that a far far better than this. but because you will be using ONLY footage form the film itself you don't need to create your own...your finished product is going to look automatically polished professionally, it's just footage from the film itself.

Oh the cuts were fine, just that if i'm gonna fork out £40 I wanna get value for my money

you can do it all with copy of the film, and that software right there chief. No kidding you. I get what you are concerned about it's just knowing how to use the program, the BEST one out there is Made by Adobe, it's HUDGE, I forget the exact name and ha s much more professional interface like an actual mixing board style if that's what you desire. However, the trade off is it is way way harder to manipulate clips with it and all you need to be able to do is CUTS for this project to work as he wants.

Ok thanks sparks, will get it in a few weeks then

Very Last Thing Snorky...I Just Made This With That For You !!! Ya See !!! Took Me 3 Minutes !!! [url=http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/?action=view¤t=SnorkAlienCut.mp4]SnorkAlienCut[/url] Edit: You also do NOT need to BUY anything bro, do NOT buy anything! Use the editor I told you about and when you get into the main screen click on the tiny icons for the bottom part until you see the one that shows you the tracks!!! Believe Me It's Professional. and drag and drop. I can teach you real quickly how to use it. Also when you are rendering use the last link under the share tab "create Video" and select "Custom" off the menu...and you can encode it in the format and size you wish.

so you like the edit?

[i]Snorkelbottom said - WOAH... Hold on a minute cervantes, you want an edit where Hicks and Newt survive... It could be done but they would be left and the sulaco - you would need to delete all scenes referencing them 1. Intro would be much shorter 2. Andrews log 3. Newts autopsy 4. The cremation 5. Clemens reference to the acid burn on the pod ...and probably others I can't think of right now.[/i] @ Snorkelbottom - Although it might be possible to imply that it was *only* Ripley that was jettisoned in the 'EEV unit' by removing shots such as you've mentioned above, this would throw up it's own set of problems. For instance, it would mean that the great intro. would need to be chopped up quite a fair bit to suggest this, but I'm not sure that would satisfactorily explain why the other 'pods' weren't transferred to the 'EEV unit' too, considering the fire broke out in the vicinity of ALL of them... ...and without going out into all the exact descriptions, it would also entail removing a heck of a lot of neat footage, dialogue, and music to accomodate the scenario that Newt, Hicks, and Bishop were still aboard the 'Sulaco', and none-the-wiser...but would make for a very choppy version of the movie I reckon. I've been told that there's been several previous 'fan-edits' that were going to attempt to imply that Newt, Hicks, and Bishop may have survived, but they didn't come to fruition unfortunately. And seemingly there was also one involving a small group of editors that was going to show *two* 'EEV units' being jettisoned in the first place - one with Ripley in it which crash landed on Fury 161, and one with the rest of the 'pods' in it, which would have drifted safely away... That sounds like it would have needed a touch of effects changes, but it wouldn't have satisfied me anyway, as it still wouldn't have saved Ripley herself! What I'm intending is a solution that makes it possible to watch the existing storylines of the ALIEN 3 and ALIEN RESURRECTION movies in their full complete glory (albeit re-cut to include a combination of what I think is the best footage from each version)...but yet allow for a 'total disregard' for them at the same time, in a way that actually shows onscreen how Ripley, Newt, Hicks, and the Bishop have survived their horrors! Luckily for me, there *is* a way to do that, and there's just enough footage and dialogue available to do it in a way that would definately satisfy me. This way, I would still be able to view these movies as they were intended, but end up with a very different outcome at the end of each of them, thus nullifying the direction they took. Hopefully it might satisfy others too who happen to hold the same love/hate regard for these last two sequels as I have. Hope that clarifys things a little.