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Melkor
MemberOvomorphJanuary 15, 2012Hi,
Some things bother me with Alien/ Aliens...
Can you clarify if these are genuine plot issues?
- In Aliens LV-426 is to be colonised. Yet this moon (or rather the spacecraft on the moon) was giving off a warning signal that the Nostromo picked up on easily. Why would the signal not have been picked up by the terraforming team/ colonists? If so the derelict would have been discovered much earlier.
- In Aliens, Burke says the suspected alien on LV-426 is a 'Xenomorph'. Doesn't this imply that this type of alien has been discovered before, and not just by Ripley and the Nostromo crew? This could be a nice tie-in to Prometheus. How does Burke know about this species?
Another thing. Many people are hypothesizing that the SJ ship in the trailer is the one from Alien. But this ship has been on LV-426 for a LONG TIME. So how can it be the one from Alien? Why does LV-426 need to be in Prometheus at all?
Comments appreciated.
Melk
January 15, 2012
Uh......, She's wearing a Weyland Corps enviro suit????? You really think all of these guys are gonna make it back to share their discovery????? Have you seen an Alien film before?
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.
January 15, 2012
you never know. plus i cant see this as a prequel. maybe the company found another beacon. remember after aliens when the atmosphere processer blew it had the force of forty megatons. pretty sure that would take out that derelict ship
January 15, 2012
The Colonial Marines game is supposed to have the derelict in it. Don't guess that's canon, but they said they spoke to Ridley about the true nature of the SJ. After surviving the explosion/crash in the trailer....maybe it could survive a thermonuclear blast. Dunno.
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.
January 15, 2012
see - told ya the same old played out COVER UP. sad.
When Charlize said she was doing something different with the Vikers role, was hoping for maybe - just maybe not the same old Corp - Bad - Employee bad. But it looks like thats what we get. same old song and dance.
The Creation of mankind - Knowledge held back from the little people.
Guess I had better get a new battery for my lap top - cause you guys think nothing going to change. might as well sign up with verizon for the next 30 years.
To bad Kids in the future are going to be limited in knowledge. Sad.
And again you have no proof that Shaw is a employee at the discovery.
Is Weyland in charge of all Dinosaur discoverys - Amazon discoverys?
Are they Hiring???? Yeppers
January 15, 2012
okay, you've lost me now...
The Derelict in Alien is the same one as in Aliens, Ripley gave the co-ordinates and the Jorden family found it.
In Alien the planetoid had no name, 57 years later it had been colonised for 20 years and as such had been named LV-426. And it IS clearly stated, and shown that is where they go in Aliens, hence Hadleys Hope, Rebecca Jorden, aka, Newt.
January 15, 2012
true, but you cant have a colony investigate the entire planatoid for no reason. when ripley gave the coordinates, they knew exactly where to look.
January 15, 2012
true, plus after 57 years and how ever long it took the sulaco to get to lv426 would the beacon still be traceable.
January 15, 2012
- "In Aliens LV-426 is to be colonised. Yet this moon (or rather the spacecraft on the moon) was giving off a warning signal that the Nostromo picked up on easily. Why would the signal not have been picked up by the terraforming team/ colonists? If so the derelict would have been discovered much earlier."
Good question. My sense of it is that the company sent those people there with full knowledge of the potential for disaster. Probably because some suit made an economic calculation on the cost-benefit of the weapons potential of the Alien species. In all probability someone or some people knew about this signal all throughout the building phase and habitation. The family of explorers who found the derelict were purposely led there (which in fact was the case as we saw in Aliens).
What would have been weird for a worker in that situation is why terraform and colonize a moon in the middle of nowhere? DId it have resources?
January 15, 2012
plus even with one person facehugged, how long did it take for the rest to be infected. im guessing the derelict was a good distance away so did the alien return with an army of facehuggers or something. or did that hugger produce a queen and start producing. brings up some good questions
January 15, 2012
- "In Aliens LV-426 is to be colonised. Yet this moon (or rather the spacecraft on the moon) was giving off a warning signal that the Nostromo picked up on easily. Why would the signal not have been picked up by the terraforming team/ colonists? If so the derelict would have been discovered much earlier."
Good question. My sense of it is that the company sent those people there with full knowledge of the potential for disaster. Probably because some suit made an economic calculation on the cost-benefit of the weapons potential of the Alien species. In all probability someone or some people knew about this signal all throughout the building phase and habitation. The family of explorers who found the derelict were purposely led there (which in fact was the case as we saw in Aliens).
What would have been weird for a worker in that situation is why terraform and colonize a moon in the middle of nowhere? DId it have resources?
January 15, 2012
The Company always knows. In ALIEN they knew about the derelict ship & the Eggs, and they send them in anyway. In ALIENS, the company knew about the Nostromo incident, and set up a buffet (The Colony) for the Xenos anyway...again! In ALIEN3, the Company probably diverts the ship to Fury to set up another breeding ground.
I couldn't remember ALIEN RESURRECTION storyline but I remember these:
1) Basketball as a contest of physical might. Seriously?
2) Winona Ryder has a nice rack but can't play an android.
3) The hybrid Xeno (Ripley's bastard child) design here is very poor, uninspired, even unintentionally comical.
January 15, 2012
THE WARNING-BEACON
This beacon was definitely a warning and was explained thus by Ash, in the book, "...And that the company experts knew all along the transmission was a warning and not a distress signal". He also went on to explain "...according to what the (company) translators determined, it was much to late for a distress signal to do the senders any good. The signal itself was frighteningly specific, very detailed". Ash also told Ripley, "...they (SJ) set up the warning, to keep the inhabitants of other ships that might consider setting down on that world from suffering the same fate." He also said "... they (SJ) were a noble race...".
It is likely the comapny detected the signal whilst surveying the systems and decided to take the firest possible opportunity to make use of the Alien and associated technology which they were aware of due to the signals speciivity. When they started to terraform the planetoid the signal was probably jammed.
It would have most unlikely the signel would have weakened it the intervening 57 years as it was proposed to have been working since the SJ died, thousands of years previous.
January 15, 2012
we do NOT know definitively what it was. Sorry, not being mean about it, just truth full, and I have explained this so many times, as have others here, that I do not wish to do it again.