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Space Jockey Was Never Fossilized

Gavin

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I've started this as a thread to see if anyone else see's what I see. In Alien our assumption and Dallas' was that the Space Jockey in the Derelict was fossilized and had been there a long, long time... [img]http://images.wikia.com/aliens/images/2/26/SpaceJockey.jpg[/img] For 30 years we have held to this assumption, believing the Space Jockey was a flesh and blood being when he was alive, kinda like this (best picture I could get to illustrate my point)... [img]http://images.wikia.com/avp/images/d/d1/Mala'kak.jpg[/img] Then recently Ridley Scott changed the gameplan and announced that what we saw in Alien wasn't the Space Jockey, it was its suit. Which we see examples of in this (taken from the newest image)... [img]http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/space_jockey_background_crop.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/28869/Prometheus_Image_Shows_Two_Space_Jockey_Suits_The_Background_1326727467.jpg[/img] Looking at these suits/statues and comparing them to the image from Alien and Ridleys statement reveals that the Space Jockey wasn't fossilized in Alien, it was just a faded exo-skeletal bio-mechanical suit. Yes that means Dallas was wrong and after all these years (33) we were wrong. Fossil - [i]n[/i] petrified (skeletal) remains of plants and animals [img]http://www.staff.olympia.org/external/OHSLibrary/dino1.gif[/img] The Space Jockey is not and never was a fossil, just a faded exo-skeletal suit. To clarify here is a quote from forum member Starbeast... [quote]It's a suit that looks fossilised; much like that Halloween skeleton suit, which looks like a skeleton, but isn't a skeleton... it's a suit. This wasn't the thinking for the last thirty years but is now because Ridley has said it - not Jeunet, Anderson or the frigging brothers Strausse - but by God himself. God's law my brothers, written in stone.[/quote] Am I the only one who sees this.

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Knorbuffel
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Well, if a bio-mechanical suit is bio enough, it would fossilize after a serious amount of time, under the condition of a wet atmosphere and some minerals line calcium.
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Not sure a new thread was needed but... In the original script there was also an alien fossilized, standing in a corner, that crew don't see.That quote by Dallas "Looks fossilized" was always a nod to the audience to explain the fact that the Jockey had been there for a very long time.I just don't get why else it would be in the script?I mean he doesn't say "Looks fossilized, but it might be this crazy LV426 atmosphere and it probably has only been here a couple of decades."The whole point on him saying "fossilized" was to give the impression it was very,very old - imho of course. So even if Dallas was wrong about the SJ, it is still obvious the writers wanted to give the audience the impression that it was very, very old as the other creature is fossilized too. From the original script: [b]Dallas gets up. They stand for a moment... Then move away from the rock formation. Fossilized into the other side of the rock is a shape. Fifteen feet tall. Unseen by the members of the party.[/b] Rewatching the scene it is actually -" looks like it's been dead awhile, fossilized."
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Didn't Dallas say that the suit looked like it was growing out of the chair?
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Your not the only one that sees it, I think it's just that alot of us think it's a real bummer and a let down that a) Its a bloody suit! and b) it isn't a fossilised, very ancient skeleton of a long dead creature, whos "ribcage" had been ripped apart by a chestburster.
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Dallas also said that it looked like it had grown out of the chair - whether he meant it looked like it "outgrew" the chair or had literally been grown from the chair is anyone's guess. Regardless, whatever Ridley's reasonings were behind the thing in the original movie have changed. So maybe back when he did Alien this was it's true form, I doubt he gave the backstory much thought back then, but now he's going to explain it and in doing so he's changed some stuff and now it's a suit. Simple as that..
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There is no fossilization in the space of 30 years, the suits and the Jockey are identical. I get that for 33 years we have all held to this fossilization, as have I but Ridley has changed it - compare the Jockey and the suits/statues and look at Ridleys statement.

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Gavin
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Good to see I'm not the only one who gets this...

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Interesting. Dallas states "looks fossilized” perhaps LV426's primordial atmosphere affected the bio mechanical suit/creature in a strange way creating the look of fossilization.
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Gavin
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Thats it, it just caused the suit to fade, which we and Dallas mistook as a fossil

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Knorbuffel
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Not buying it, but after all, it's been a long time since Alien. I'm not expecting to see Apple ][ graphics, nor do I expect an answer to all the riddles of Alien. Going into hibernation till opening day. This is Knorbuffel, signing off.
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Gavin
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nothing to buy, it is what it is, Ridley changed it not me, I'm just pointing it out

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Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
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Gavin
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I agree, when I first clicked it was a case of WTF, but we were all wrong all that time now that Ridley has changed it

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F--- it - lets go for it!
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absolte cracker, biomech...was pissing myself, everyone just take a deep breath.... and release!!
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AND PARKER, {I KEEP INSISTING RICK}, DID IN FACT BREAK WIND AFTER SIPPING HIS COFFEE IN "ALIEN". RIDLEY SCOTT DID IN FACT DELIBERATELY LEAVE THIS IN THE THEATRICAL VERSION/RELEASE OF THE FILM. IT'S NICE TO KNOW THE FACTS ISN'T IT?
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Tying his two films into a neat little bow, by making the ship in Prometheus end up as the derelict from "Alien" would be too clever by half, IMO. I'm expecting a bit more than the usual all-too predictable Hollywood nonsense from this movie.
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the thing that's getting to me the most about just about ALL OF YOU, IS THIS COMPLETE LACK OF FAITH IN AND OF ANY UNDERSTANDING OF RIDLEY SCOTT HIMSELF or how he most righteously rolls !!!
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rolls spartacus cheese rolls, rolls royce , rolls on the floor laughing ? rules
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LMAO, I could have said "roles" and it would have worked perfectly too !!! Maybe even better. It just flat out seems to me that what everyone keeps missing is this...This will not just be an "EPIC" film...it will be an "EPIC" film created by an "EPIC" film maker and his "EPIC" little "droogie" none other The Distinguished Mr. H R Giger. It's NOT just an "EPIC" film. It is also something that will happen maybe this ONCE in all of our lifetimes! Just Like Muhammed Ali, who incidentally turned 70 today, and was "EPIC" ! These things happen ONLY once.................... ..................................................If we're LUCKY.
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We thought it was fossilized. Its got to stop. we were wrong, so wrong. we are so sorry XD

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