Peter Weyland Video - My Theories

I think the idea of Weyland being on board the mission is a very good possibility. Whether he is synthetic, or the old man is still questionable. The older person in the space suit has hair. The man in the wheelchair in the infirmary does not, and appears to not be as thin. I doubt a mission into deep space would include two senior citizens. Makes me wonder if the alleged transformations are different from one crew member to another. Some many speculations, so little real information. 99 more days, and it will all be put to rest.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I have a certain level of respect for ANY movie that eventually gets made. (Yes, Mr. Ed Wood... even you managed to get it done!) I'm not oppossed to blending the A - AVP - P franchises. There are TONS of AVP fans out there that (sadly) can't sit through the original "Alien" because they find it too "boring"... (I know what you're thinking)... but much of Generation X & Y can't tell the difference between "boring" and great character development. Like the video games they play, they need action and an immediate payoff... not a well-written story that actually has something to say. Having said that, Ridley has stated this film will be familiar to Alien fans. Therefore if Alien truly is the grandaddy of all its sequels and the Pred. franchise has been blended with this universe then we can't help but see small references to things that fit into each. PS. I love the idea of Weyland going after the Xeno bio. and Yutani going after the Pred. tech. When all is said and done, Sir Ridley Scott, I simply ask this: "Show me something new." There is literally a UNIVERSE of creative and never seen before ideas out there and there's no need to approach them from a human perspective. Nothing would thrill me more than seeing a bunch of self-important humans who think they matter suddenly being treated as nothing more than lab rats by SJ (gods) on a sinking derelict.

PSS... bring on the pain.

I is back from work......ok...I think AvP, A:Series, and Blade R are all going to blend some how. I think, the "tech hunt" angle I just thought-up this morning is really viable and can or will be the way to do the blending. Yutnai - Pred Tech, Weyland - Engr Tech and somehow the merge could be through Blade R. Could be we developed the skinjobs to fight the Preds thus no real lose of human life and Weyland is pulling a Doogie Houser through hunting for the gods to cure himself. Could be we developed nanotech through the pred tech (aliens being dissolved in AvP:R and the gun) and the nanotech allows us to rewrite and program new code into DNA and thus making a replicant. I'm not overly knowledgeable on the whole predator mythology and could use some help here. Snorks I'll mail you on the Weyland Experience in Aliens 2.5

One thing that bothers me about the 'Bladerunner' tie-in Rick........Weyland's speech takes place in 2023, in which he refers to synthetic humans who are 'almost' or 'nearly' passable and will one day be indistinguishable from humans....that's four years after 'Bladerunner' when they're so advanced you can't tell the difference without a test that looks for the so called blush response of the eye.

I'm with you db. IMO Peter Weyland saying 'we are the Gods now' is setting the stage for a very humbling human experience. The reference to Lawrence of Arabia is R. Scott saying this movie is going to be about the vastness of space and how we are like ants compared to the civilizations that are already out there....the SJs...the SJs appear friendly, but they have an agenda larger than we can possibly imagine...we are merely pawns... craigamore - the androids in Blade Runner are from a different company - The Tyrell Corporation - R Scott has this belief that Corporations rule the world...but we all know that's silly...

Its funny and amazing reading the blogger's views on the TED/ weyland viral site . A lot of people are saying that its way to over the top and Guy Pearce is sounding bad with his accent etc. Well i can tell you after 10 long years of Tony B. liar, speeches and now David Cameron , and the con-dems That speech was quite mild in comparison. When i consider all the morons that buy into that kind of bullshit and still get suckered in every time both here in the uk and over in the us with bullshit corporate talk and politician Megalomania. It was totally realistic to me lol.

@ cain... ridley despises the avp films. When asked at the announcement of prometheus what he thought about avp and it's sequel he grimaced and said the less said about those the better.

I think the pioneer to robotics was firmly established in the first two movie's snorky.

@alteredstate, yeah,I can feel his pain when he says it....I am glad that Scott has decided to exclude all but Alien and lay down a new set of rules and a new story in the universe he created.

Agreed cain it needs a totally fresh perspective.

Regardless my friends, you cannot escape the simple fact that the website is www. weylandindustries.com, and Weyland industries is from AVP, and in terms of look and age it seems as though Guy Pearce is playing Lance Henriksen's son and heir, whom creates his own company and takes further than that of his father. @ Altered State - the pioneer of robotics was never established in either Alien nor Aliens. In Aliens Bishop referred to himself as a Hyperdyne Systems 341-B, and referred to Ash as a 120-A/2. AVP just hinted that Charles Weyland was leading the way, in 2004, in the field of robotics. Obviously Peter Weyland surpasses him, by miles. We, the fans (and I think the comics too) inferred that Hyperdyne Systems was a company like Cyberdyne Systems (Terminator franchise), maybe instead it is a technical name for a synthetic or a division of Weyland Corp/Weyland-Yutani Corporation.

Crossing fingers to at least keep Predators if not the AVP films in the continuity as they fit well in the universe, but I'm not holding my breath.

Crossing my fingers that the only movie (heavily) referenced, if any, is ALIEN. Don't get me wrong, I liked the alien sequels...but only as stand alones. Not as true sequels to Ridley's original. I also loved the Predator movies. By the way, the Alien sequels and Pred movies had their faults. But the AVP movies WERE FAULTS, lol! (No offense to anyone involved in making those movies, I'm sure they all did their best to produce high-caliber films. But the end result is the end result, regardless of the amount of effort.) Also, although "Weyland industries" is mentioned both in the viral video and in AVP, it doesn't confirm that AVP will be referenced in Prometheus. It could be coincidence or Maybe the name "Weyland Industries" is the only thing Ridley liked from AVP and decided to keep it. It could be anything. All we know for sure (based on interviews) is that Ridley doesn't like the AVP movies.

regardless of all that snorky the simple fact a walking talking undetected artificial life existed in alien is proof enough of a pioneering design.

Well at comic con ridley did say when asked will there be androids he replied there could be two

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Bishop

2023 he talks of pioneering robotics i cant get my head around the timelines here if he succeeds charles weyland then how come bishop is a representative look a like of charles/ michael if hes already kicked the bucket unless hes in cold storage or he has dna samples locked away. Alien is set in 2122 which includes the ash model. Michael Bishop was an employee of Weyland-Yutani in the late 22nd century and bore a striking resemblance to Charles Bishop Weyland, founder of Weyland Industries. In 2179 Michael Bishop was employed as a synthetic component designer and engineer for the Weyland-Yutani corporation and was dispatched to Fiorina 161 to retrieve Ellen Ripley from the Fiorina 161 Correctional Unit. Not much is known about Michael Bishop's early life, but what is known is that at sometime prior to 2179, Michael was employed at Weyland-Yutani eventually becoming a Synthetic Component Designer. During this time, he designed several synthetics including the 341-B series that resembled him. In 2179, Michael was sent on a retrieval mission to acquire a xenomorph specimen for the Bio Weapons Division and to talk Lt. Ripley into cooperating, due to her having encountered one of his creations in the USCM.Michael Bishop was born on May 5, 2127.He was born in New York,UA. A dying billionare travels to a frozen wasteland. He knows his chances are slim, but he knows what he finds there could change the face of history. My ancestor, Charles Bishop Weyland." ―Karl Bishop Weyland. Although Charles was last seen in Aliens vs. Predator, a character by the name of "Mr. Weyland" could be partially seen in the epilogue of the video game Predator: Concrete Jungle buying out Borgia Industries. It is unknown exactly what is connection is to any of the Bishops seen on film previously. Since any and all information regarding the Predator game is confined to what we see in the game, and since there most likely will not be a sequel, information may remain unanswered. A possible theory to this Mr. Weyland is that he is Charles Bishop Weyland's son and, after his father's mysterious death, took control of Weyland industries. After the events of AVP: Requiem, he probably made a merge with Yutani industries. This would end up being Weyland Yutani Corp. from the Alien and future AVP franchises. With his buying out of Borgia Industries and merging with Yutani industries, his technologic advances would allow space travel into distant worlds like BG-386 and LV-426.

If Avp is set 2004, Then the whole ethos of the alien universe has to be considered accordingly and thats where i stumble cos i cant get the whole point of alien from that point on if i am to consider those canon. A company like weyland would investigate its founders death and discover the xeno and predator's frozen corpses in the Antarctic and develop the weapons from the preserved dna.

i will eat my bed clothes if the blade runner universe is cajoled into this while us scfi fans for the most part love both alien and blade runner to marry them together would be the ultimate insult. Besides ridley knows when not to mess with his ultimate masterpiece's . He will do a sequel to blade runner but to tie them together is just not going to happen i would bet a years wages on that.

@ Altererd State - you bring up a lot of points there... Michael Bishop Before even starting on this one I'm covering my backside by first stating that fans are divided on this as much as the filmmakers are; Some believe this character is human, and an equal amount believe he is an android made to look human. Now the evidence for both. Michael Bishop - The only two real pieces of evidence that suggest this character is human are a) the red blood from his vicious ear wound and b) the fact that he declares himself as human. Bishop II - Okay, firstly there is the name "Bishop II" which appears in the credits. Secondly, Lance Henriksen whom obviously played the part believed this character to be a synthetic, and played the character as such (note the relief upon seeing red blood - the character feels as though their cover has been blown, but is glad to see the red blood). Also note the lack of excruciating agony he would suffer from such a wound, he acts more like its a paper cut. "But snorky he says he is human." Of course he does, to persuade Ripley to give him what he wants. Next the name Michael Bishop isn't referenced in the film whatsoever, I don't even think the character introduces himself by name. And then of course there is, for me, the clincher. He says something along the lines of "The company wanted to send a friendly face, to show they care." Hold on a friggin minute, how the hell would they know that Ripley and Bishop had become friends, they only did so in the closing moments of Aliens, sounds a little suss. Yes, I am on the Bishop II is an android side, but anyways lets continue... @ Altered State - Now to the rest... All that info about Michael Bishop is nonsense as none of it is mentioned in the film, thus not Canon. Karl Bishop Weyland, a character from AVP the video game. Thus not canon. Predator: Concrete Jungle = Game = Not Canon. Borgia Industries, BG-386 = Never heard of them in the films thus not Canon. After the events of AVPR, also set in 2004, possibly 2005, thus well before Sir Peter Weylands TED speech, and well before the Prometheus mission. Weyland will merge with Yutani, if not at the end of Prometheus then before the events of Alien. Frozen corpses in Antarctica? There aren't any. The Predators Bomb would have eradicated everything in and around the pyramid (possibly the Pyramid itself). the only evidence remaining is at the bottom of the Antarctic Ocean (the Queen).

well you make some good points there snorky i'm not disagreeing with you i just needed some points clearing up cos i'm a little unsure about the time lines and as far as avp goes i only seen the first one once and the second i cant even remember lol it was that good. Istill don't know who karl bishop is.

when I said..."AVP crap"...I meant "stuff". i DID NOT Mean...TO HURT ANYONES FEELINGS...I totaly enjoyed watching those films...Yet at the same time I feel they do not form part of the ALIEN universe time line...FOX and Scott can do as they wish what I am telling you is their are too many problems it creates for the timeline becauyse when those films were made they were done wiht very little or no consideration for the database of fact created by the existence of the first 4 films. Heck, there's enough debate over the continuity through those 4 films alone...some people don't even consider 3 and 4 valid. I Love all the sspecial edition stuff too, but I cannot honestly consider that/those legit either, because when the films were actually realeased, that's NOT what people saw. There is a serious issue wiht CREDIBILITY created just by doing this...I am OK wiht it if they do it but ONLY if they PLUG all the HOLES.

I still believe avp throw a spanner in the works with regards to the original film and made the whole franchise questionable in terms of credibility.

I agree Altered State totally, I wondered at the time it was happening as well why FOX at the request {not sure if he ever even did} put a stop to all of them until the details could be worked out properly and some sort of teritorial boundrys establised. It amzed me that they would oput the very credibility of the franhise in question. And now...here we CLEARLY see why I was right to worry.

Nah @Spartacus you're right the whole AvP film series is sh*t and a cheap attempt at making a buck. Predator 2 was an awful piece of sh*t and the fact that director put in an Alien skull was meant as an in-joke for Alien fans. The fact that the talentless hacks in Hollywood tried to make a whole film franchise off of pitting the Predator against the Alien demonstrates how directors like Ridley Scott and James Cameron are few and far between. And no, I will not apologize or bowlderize my opinions. This is an online forum. Get used to controversy and debate or GTFO!

The one thing that wasn't cleared up if memory serves me correct there was a survivor of avp the expedition instructor ? now surely she would of spread the word about aliens of two races fighting a vicious battle in the heart of the Antarctic and the deaths of charles and the team etc. or did she buy it to when they blew it up?

@ Altered State... Karl Bishop Weyland was a character in the recent console AVP game whom had the likeness of, and I believe was voiced by Lance Henriksen. He comes across as either an advanced synthetic or a descendant of Charles Bishop Weyland. Either way it doesn't really matter because its a game, thus not canon. The survivor of AVP is Alexa Woods. Her fate is somewhat answered in the sequel AVPR. There is a character called Colonel Stevens (probably not his real name) who is an operative of the O.W.L.F. (Other World Life Forms) task force, a top secret covert ops team first seen in Predator 2 (Gary Busey and Adam Baldwin). His display showed the effects of the Alien/Xenomorph infestation over a set time frame, which is why they nuked Gunnison County. The only person who could have supplied them with any information regarding the Alien/Xenomorph would be Alexa Woods. @ Sparky & Greatboostup... Granted not everyone likes AVP, but don't forget it wasn't just Paul W S Anderson at the helm storywise, it was also Dan O'Bannon. And if it wasn't for him we wouldn't be here in the first place, would we?

yes, I agree snorky and thats why I wanted it dealt wiht back then 25 years ago or so bwefore they created this cross referencing mess. that said, I never said I do not LIKE them, just that I do not or rather will not consider them to be part of the Weaver Led Nostromo Universe until the many anomlies they present are cleared up.