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Are we missing something obvious?

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db

MemberOvomorphMar-06-2012 7:41 AM
[IMG]http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx29/cd1978/tumblr_kr2hd2dDEb1qznvymo1_500.jpg[/IMG] Couldn't find this anywhere recently or otherwise... lock freely if it's been discussed. Are we missing something obivious? The woman looking biomech figure giving birth... it's the derelict. The shape is also very reminiscent of the Egyptian symbol of "KA" translated as "soul or spirit". Ridley is a fan of the "all about everything" theory... right? I began thinking of this based on the other thread about the "derelict as a meatphor". There will be tons of cross-religious metaphors... yes? Collating...
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Ronster

MemberOvomorphMar-07-2012 3:10 PM
I agree best thread I seen on here... Basically if you follow the egyption gods mythology all roads seem to point to the God Atum and Heliopolis as where it all starts Atum is one of the most important and frequently mentioned deities from earliest times, as evidenced by his prominence in the Pyramid Texts, where he is portrayed as both a creator and father to the king. He is usually depicted as a man wearing either the royal head-cloth or the dual white and red crown of Upper Egypt, and Lower Egypt, reinforcing his connection with kingship. Sometimes he also is shown as a serpent, the form which he returns to at the end of the creative cycle and also occasionally as a mongoose, lion, bull, lizard, or ape. n the Heliopolitan creation myth, Atum was considered to be the first god, having created himself, sitting on a mound (benben) (or identified with the mound itself), from the primordial waters (Nu). Early myths state that Atum created the god Shu and goddess Tefnut from spitting her out of his mouth.[1] In the Old Kingdom the Egyptians believed that Atum lifted the dead king's soul from his pyramid to the starry heavens.[2] He was also a solar deity, associated with the primary sun god Ra. Atum was linked specifically with the evening sun, while Ra was associated more with the morning sun.[3] But Petra has been given as the location of the dig although they shared ties with trade with cairo / heliopolis and is not so far away petra again is based on funery temples and idolising the dead. Tributes to the great dead.. This picture which is of the high palce of sacrifice in the mountains of petra does bear resemblence to the hole on the derelict or the sky dome [img]http://blog.tsemtulku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Petra-high-place-of-sacrifice-300x225.jpg[/img]

Ronster

MemberOvomorphMar-07-2012 3:27 PM
Might need debunking that petra in Jordan is not in africa it is actually asia so somthing is not right and does not add up Achielogical dig in africa would point to Eygpt and I think the description of petra as a dig is possible but it's not in africa but perhaps leads them to a discovery in africa perhaps Or the filming locationis simply is in petra somwhere but we are led to believe that they are in africa doing a dig is more likley

Nephilim_LV426

MemberOvomorphMar-07-2012 8:33 PM
Hey I like what you guys are posting about Nut etc. You are right on target. The scary thing is when you think you can figure Giger out... If you like puzzles, here's one I tried, but got stuck. I think I started off on the right track though...think of the 'runes' as concepts, much like hieroglyphs..good luck... [img]http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o612/Nephilim-LV426/Prometheus/Prometheus_SJ_Pod_decypher2.png[/img] [url=https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1_OZMLNumis/Tzl1OknigCI/AAAAAAAAA7A/lzZMvl2IBCI/s500/letteringcontrolchamber.jpg]An unspoiled slate to work from...[/url] [url=https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p9inNWG6Uwo/TzrfL_otGLI/AAAAAAAAA9k/E7NbqsmXdug/s500/421835_3377120266224_1215888587_33527514_1046867435_n.jpg]This might help too...[/url]

Zues

MemberOvomorphMar-08-2012 4:39 AM
I totally agree this is the best and most insightful thread I have ever read here on this forum or anywhere else on the Derelict, Alien, Giger, SJ,etc ......all makes perfect sense. I have the Blu-Ray Anthology with its hundred odd hours of extras, etc and none of that comes close to the revelations I've learnt here. This thread should be mandatory reading for all members ......they would love it! db @ thanks for starting this discussion. galacticnorth @ your link ....http://ioannis.virtualcomposer2000.com/writing/Derelict.html was brilliant and I reckon that you should post it as a new post so that no one misses it...........I think the author is spot on and this is what we will see in the film.....imo
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MemberOvomorphMar-08-2012 6:41 AM
This is a damn good theory and very very Plausible, ohh how sweet will that be if things along these lines are in the film.

Ronster

MemberOvomorphMar-08-2012 2:21 PM
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1_OZMLNumis/Tzl1OknigCI/AAAAAAAAA7A/lzZMvl2IBCI/s500/letteringcontrolchamber.jpg[/img] As interesting as this picture is it could take years to decipher a language so really what it says is not so important but remeber that I posted before about eygptian beliefs about writing and spells in the book of the dead... So remember that it was considered to help the process of passing to the afterlife a sort of purgatory the inscriptions on the tombs of sarcoffugus ([b]yep mimic of a SJ cryochamber or whatever it is[/b]) take power away from hideous creatures that could cause harm before there atonement / judgement before osiris ([b]A Space Jockey God[/b]). So if the ancient eygptians buried there dead in a similar fashion to a SJ cryotube they might consider it give longer life or even resurrection and would naturally copy the fact there are inscriptions around them... Giger is definatley onboard / also Chariots of the gods uses these examples of US Airmen that landed in the pacific in WW2 the natives beheld the US Military as gods because of the aircraft, weapons, technology and goods they brought to the island as they had never seen any thing like it before as they were isolated in the middle of the pacific. Later they would worship them on the abandoned airstrip and build fake planes out of wood begging for them to return to them. i.e. this is the same effect But I hope the translation is given on the Blu-Ray set

Ronster

MemberOvomorphMar-08-2012 3:54 PM
[img]http://www.larsfocke.de/temp/prometheus-space-jockey-chair.gif[/img] Look uner the H E U S of prometheus that does look exactly like an eyptian sarcofugus the Cryotube thing and the hieroglyphs basically back it up with more evidence So they mummified them i.e. they embalmed them in Preserving liquids I wonder what the substances were they used it might give us some insight into what is in the ampules apart from the biomechanical ooze of life I think this might need further looking into along with the ancient pyrimaid texts also which I have not touched yet [img]http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/coffins14.jpg[/img] Thought I would add the image of a sarcofagus and again the inscriptions on the body off the coffin mimic the SJ Chamber / Cryotube / what ever it is

Ronster

MemberOvomorphMar-09-2012 5:02 AM
Ok looked into the Ancient Pyrimid Texts and they basically mirror the book of the dead but are more primitive so nothing here... And the Embalming process was not using liquids apart from to wash the deceased it was actually a process of drawing all the moisture out of the carcus as well as removal of organs... The Substance used was called Natron which is basically similar to Sodium Bicarbonate. And was a salt found naturally deposited in the region of the Wadi tribes. But also interesting was that people cared for the dead as though they were still alive and could still feel what was being done in this process to help the pharohs become as gods themselves. So I guess this has turned up at a dead end unless Space Jockeys suck all the moisture and everything out of a being including it's organs there there would be little to link to here and it still remains to be seen what they do to organisms to extract their essence / Spirit and DNA... It could be a possible use for that snout they have lol [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/SfdC8pO5aHI/AAAAAAAAOI0/N9_J4rMHXhs/s400/SpaceJockeyAP.jpg[/img]

Ronster

MemberOvomorphMar-09-2012 5:29 AM
In feel the cahmbers surrounding the cockpit is possibly where they would put life forms that they wanted to mix together or extract from rather than the cryotube desriptin... If these chambers suck you dry of all your inards and go towrds creating a new life form this would make more sense that the Eygptians were trying to replicate a process that they had seen first hand... As there is alot of evidence that the chair the Space Jockey organically joins with not only makes him part of the ship but is also part of the creation process.
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