Ship to ship combat? Prometheus trailer of trailer.

Lets touch on a couple of things: One, we definitely do not know whether or not the Prometheus has weapons. If its a research ship, prolly no weapons. Two, if the planet has a big temple on it, it would stand to reason that maybe it would have a raod leading up to its entrance. Walking and driving a vehicle may very well be commonplace where bi-peds are concerned. Three, (pure speculation) if you need to stop a ship and you don't have weapons, you might try and ram it with your ship...especially it everything is on the line. Thoughts?

I think the Prometheus is purposely crashed against the "spinner".

@ Nrlfetmefan Totally agree, it makes perfect sense. I can't help being a bit amused by all the wild speculations on this board :) Lasers creating roads, people mutating into big blue aliens, someone giving birth to big blue aliens, time travel and wormholes, you are all crazy you know :D

I wonder how many of us will be in the theater going "HOLY SHIT" just be cause certain scenes did not play out as we expected (or as Ridley cleverly edited the trailer to have us expect something else to happen) But there's a lot of smart people on here who will have gotten it right too. I'd love to go into the theater not knowing anything but I don't have the willpower to resist spoilers.

@humanityFTW I think I told "Rick" why many many months ago when we saw the first images from the trailer in that leaked Fox Scandal Gatey "thingy" remember?The Company is intercepting the Derelict to prevent it from reachng Earth. In it are tons of them VIALS programmed to become XENOMORPHS and treat Earth like one massive Terra Forming project, Killing everything alive and eating all the famles slowler than the males cause they are "prolly" tastier. Ya know why too I think...someone on prometheus stole some of them vials and this is their punishment being averted somehow. Got it all from one of them leaked Fake scripts, twisted it a bit to suit my needs but it makes sense to me and I have been sticking to it since day 1. Will be the first to say, "I was soooo wrong" in Vickers Voice if it turns out I have to come to Rick's house and eat crow!

I'm sorry if I insulted you @Ghorgul, but I felt the need to approach the way I prefer to write with a certain level of pride. Nrlfetmefan is right, there's no reason we can't be civil. Anywho...I pernsally wouldn't think there was air-to-air weaponry on what amounts to a corporate R&D vessel, and also, the size of that explosion seems to large to be anything but a collision; especially concerning the escape pod revelation.

But there is clearly debris from another ship falling all around the derelict as it crashes in the original trailer craigmore...what say you to that bit of flaming pie? LOL.

I agree with Nrlfetmefan Sound points he makes. Though personally I wouldnt be surprised if the Prometheus had some little-known weapons system hidden on it, considering how Weyland(company) behaves in the future. He is probably right about the road, as it seems to go under the Prometheus and continue long way to both directions (I'll have to check the pictures later today). Shilliam Watner found great point with the supposed turret in another thread: [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/1926&page=6]7th post on this page[/url] Basically he says that the turret could turn 360 degrees in its azimuth angle and 90 degrees in it's zenith angle. This supports the view that the SJ ship flies on horizontal orientation (which he expressed in his post), and as the turret is on the opposite side of the "Window" side (roof window of starmap/SJ room as have been speculated), If the SJ wants to fly and sit in head towards sky position, the ship will fly horizontally with turrent pointing towards ground. This would also make the ship quite frightening bomber with it's full 360/90 firing field below it. (Azimuth and Zenith are from spherical coordinate system, it's a lot easier to describe my idea using these) Actually this makes me think that the part where we see supposed emergency ejection with SJ ship in the background is just moments before SJ ship opens fire on Prometheus (SJ ship is higher than Prometheus so it could easily engage Prometheus from that position), and only little later comes the scared/surprised Idris Elba scene with that red flash. Little before/at the same time/a little after Prometheus attacks SJ ship with some sort of weapon, or emergency pod, or could even manage to cratch SJ ship, causing it to fall down. They way we see it falling would suggest it was hovering at place as it doesn't look like it has momentum any other way but down. And all this makes me think that maybe Prometheus is the one trying to run away, and not the other way around as the popular theory goes. Sry for the wall of text, ideas started to flood my head and I happened to have this forum in front of me @craigamore + everyone else Private mailed to craigamore my apologises. I'm sorry about the argument and taking on one's personal writing style. I think we can look past this, and that I can be not-annoyed by extra dots! :D Yours Sincerely Ghorgul

@Ghorgul The derelict attacking/stopping the Prometheus would actually make more sense... I think we can safely assume that humans is inferior to this race, right?. The aliens would have a much easier time figuring out the crew's intentions than them figuring out what the aliens are up to. And if the crew figure out that the aliens are a serious threat, it would already be too late... We are no match to them. But... I am afraid it is the other way around, by some heroic actions and ingenuity, the crew figure out that the aliens are a real danger and decide to crash into them to stop them from leaving the planet. And actually manage to bring down a ship far more technological advanced than their own.

I completely dissagree Slakkers, and think the Company attacking and deliberately attemtping to land lock the Derelict anywhere but Earth is what's going on here. i will be the first to admit I was wrong if that turns out to be the case.

Yes Spartacus, you are probably right, but it is a shame, because this is something we see over and over again in films.

yes, you are right and I agree...it is in a way and I never thought of it in that regard until now when you mentioned it, but I may have one thing that'll give you some hope...I am NO expert and it's just an educated guess and that's the best thing for you..because RIDLEY SCOTT is almost ALWAYS completely unpredictable! I remember thinking, and still do to this day, that the suits made him cut out a lot of that scene in Black Rain in which Andy Garcia gets his head cut off by a Samarai sword. The final scene just doesnlt look like something he approved...what i am tryng to tell you is you may still be right, and he may want me thinking the way ia m deliberatly, it's a vice of his, to get us all looking the wrong way befiore hitting us on the head wiht some awesome idea or angle we never thought of.

@Slakkers I like your way of thinking! It makes sense to me atleast. It could be possible too that the people/xenos aboard SJ ship aren't even evil, but realize what humans have let out of the Vault (with giant head) and it's containers and try to stop it from leaving by shooting Prometheus down and killing every human? Maybe the stuff in containers is so dangerous in their view that they don't want to come play a doctor, and would rather purge the danger along a barrel of a gun? Maybe big part of the plot is that both sides misunderstand each others objectives? This is actually pretty usual and normal plot development in many Hard SciFi stories. I just can't see Mr. Scott doing a SciFi movie with so obvious plot that everything is clear as a day when half of the film has been watched (as many of todays action oriented movies are). Some movies nowadays even reveal the whole plot in trailers, you then just have to concentrate on fancy action!

No, I just see it as they ram a ship into another ship. I doubt we will see much in the way of fire exchanged between either of them. Also, Live free or die hard is one of the worst films ever made. Horrible in every way.

@Ghorgul - Who are you the typing police?. Who cares really?...........................................................................................................

I think what we are seeing in this latest trailer-trailer is the prometheus on a collision course with the alien ship, an escape pod is launched and then, as seen in the first official trailer, the two escapees, who by this time have landed, are running away from the crashing ship.

I agree the theory of the Prometheus crashing into the ship, i just thought it might be interesting to see ship v ship. But i guess the collision of both ships would show the crew's desperation more, which would be rather effective, i mean you don't just ram a state fo the art research ship (correct if wrong) into an alien craft or anything. Thanks for all your responses on my first post btw guys.

@You have my sympathy It could really well go like that too. I'm counting on Prometheus firing some hidden AA-missile against SJ-ship though ^^ Saturdays trailer needs to give us more information! Plus I really think the SJ ship flying and firing red coloured energy/laser weapon and ripping Prometheus to pieces with it would look spectacular in 3D! BTW We always refer the human ship as Prometheus, but is this even certain knowledge?

All that debris, Spartacus, falling around Shaw and Vickers, I believe it comes from the Prometheus as it is completely obliterated while the derelict, being made of unkown materials likely durable beyond our understanding, remains intact as it is knocked from its trajectory.