The Space Jockey

I am T I feel that the Spacey Jockey we see begin to form and assimliate into the chair is a previous jockey from the planet that is trying to reach earth. I dont believe it is David because i feel he will meet his demise another way. Probably sacrificing himself to save elizabeth or by them some time. And as for the mutated member of the ship I feel he will probably be torched by a flamethrower by some one from the crew.

I have a theory that it was destiny mankind was meant to find the eggs and that those that created the "Xenomorph" kind. It looks from the clips that humans make contact with some sort of vials that contain a "contaminent" changing their DNA to create a new life form or transformation...possibly a way of the Aliens finding new Worlds to terrform, dominate...or food? It's definitely got an overture of genetic manipulation...perhaps these are some distant relatives of humanity that have experimented with genetics on a terribly mutated level and Einstein's theory on time travel turned out to be correct and they have somehow returned from the future to create theirs? Whatever the case, this is easily one of the most anticipated films of all time, can't wait!

it think its obvious that the spacejockey are divided into different parties or clans who disagreed in certain ideals(probaly like our mythology..greek mythology is so big it could be used on nearly every story) the trailer is trying to tell that the spacejockeys set a trap thousands of years ago by telling different civilizations "koordinates" or riddles which only could be decipherd in a certain future.so the big question remaining is..why do the space jockeys make it so complicadet to destroy mankind if they were superior thousands of years ago ?? so that leeds to the conclusion that the spacejockeys weakened themeselves.they are divided into different "parties" ,"clans" ,woteva ,they fought and one partie(probaly the peacefull one who didnt want to destroy earth and other life) abandoned the other one on an exile planet ..let them less power so they couldnt get away from the planet ,just let them one ship without power..but the abandoned partie had a long time to develop other weapons..the xenomorph DNA for exampel(i think its connected with DNA from earth) and maybe other stuff.and they need the power from prometheus to get away and the weyland corp is just a puppet/boguscompany controlled by the "dark" spacejockey/alien clan.who think they are gods and can do what they want because they are just superior..that would be the same old-epic good vs evil story..but with a fucking nice set and a scott-cameron-fincher ripley universe:)

Hmm, not sure what happened to my first comment, but I had a theory that it is all based around genetic manipulation, that a species, perhaps even somehow linked to Weyland Yutani intended for humanity to find the vessel, to "awaken" the ship and for the contents to be sent to Earth...it is a transport vessel with a macabre intention. It could be perhaps a Einstein Rosen-Bridge: http://www.krioma.net/articles/Bridge%20Theory/Einstein%20Rosen%20Bridge.htm ...an idea that in order for the Xenomorph kind to be created, it had to meet humanity in that place, in that time...sounds pretty complicated, but I definately think it was destiny for the Prometheus to be there and this is the prequel to Alien :)

Again I think you guys are putting too much thought into it. We know the jockeys created or lead man in the first civilizations. And they wanted to be contacted when humans were ready. Those are facts. The sj's are obviously superior with their ability to grow their own ships and ampule chambers and so on...... We also know they can manipulate DNA. Whos to say that the xenos aearnt a result of the humans taking the ampules. Because that's the source of the sj's power. Much like the fire prometheus stole.

The Space Jockey at the start of Alien, will naturally be where Prometheus ends up. My theory is ... and it's been telegraphed by calling the movie Prometheus!!! man seals the gift of fire from the gods, the gods punish man... Or in context of Prometheus.... The company send the crew to investigate, as usual, ulterior motives are hidden behind the supposed archeological, religious and the pure science ramifications of discovering sentient Alien life.... From the trailer we can deduce that... "We were so wrong..." wrong in thinking that it was an invitation, and that other lifeforms want to share knowledge with us, and that they are soft and cuddly E.T's!... Wrong in possibly trying to steal artifacts/knowledge from the Aliens, knowledge to create life! Hence the Engineers/space jockeys/custodians of the artifacts set out to punish man by going to Earth and unleashing the bioweapon upon us! and also from the trailer we see the Prometheus possibly intercept an Alien vessel. From the trailer we see that the planet is/has been terraformed, LV427 hasn't, and no Alien "temples" ( the dome like structures) had been discovered in either Alien or Aliens, so my theory is that it's a different planet, we also see from the trailer that members of the crew get infected with some kind of Alien DNA, and are mutated, and some infighting ensues, there's also a birthing sequence with Noomi Rapace character, Shaw (I think) so either the crew are infected by opening something they shouldn't ( we see DAvid opening one in the trailer) or the Engineers/space jockeys capture and experiment on the crew to punish them, there were reports from some scripts floating round over a year ago that there may be mind control involved, which makes sense if they are such a technologically advanced race who's tech is bio infused. There is also a theory that the Alien xenomorph mimics and mutates from contact with its host (hence the Alien/dog all 4's hybrid in Alien 3) and that the tall bipedal Alien from ALien is so, because it came from a human host.... The Engineers may have terraformed earth and "created" us from part of their DNA, this would explain why they are humanoid, and it would also explain their wish to destroy us so easily if we have offended them, got ideas above our station in trying to steal their secret....

What if the deep space vessel, the Prometheus, is named so because it uses the ion propulsion technology NASA started to develop in 2008 <-- I think, to be able of intergalactic travel. The name of the program at NASA was, the prometheus project. Maybe the Weyland Corporation secured the project from NASA to develop the technology and apply it to corporate galactic exploration wich leads to the events of the film? The whole prometheus mythology might have nothing to do with the beings in the film. Its just the name of the ship because it is the final product of the Prometheus Project started by NASA.

@ O and Everybody I agree with "O" that I don't think we are going to know everything about the space jockeys after this movie, and I think that the Space Jockeys race also received "the invitation", but they are jelous or offend because they are "the original creators".

We must not fortget that Prometheus in the Greek Mythology wasn´t an human. He was a Titan. The titans were family related with the other gods like Zeus (one of the Olimpics) who created the human race. So the theory in this forum from ardjuna that are two kind of Space Jockeys (Gods) may be plausible. Some of them don´t approve us or result offended by us.

The Space Jockey at the start of Alien, will naturally be where Prometheus ends up. My theory is É and it's been telegraphed by calling the movie Prometheus!!! man steals the gift of fire from the gods, the gods punish manÉ Or in context of PrometheusÉ. The company send the crew to investigate, as usual, ulterior motives are hidden behind the supposed archeological, religious and the pure science ramifications of discovering sentient Alien lifeÉ. We know David is an android, so where's the surprise element? there must be another person/ android who is planted from the "Company" to make sure all that Money that's been spent on the mission, brings them back either a) some hi tec that can help them take over the world b) some bioweapons, for other nastier uses! From the trailer we can deduce thatÉ "We were so wrongÉ" possibly wrong in thinking that it was an invitation, and that other lifeforms want to share knowledge with us, and that they are soft and cuddly E.T's!É Wrong in possibly trying to steal artifacts/knowledge from the Aliens, knowledge to create life! Hence the Engineers/space jockeys/custodians of the artifacts set out to punish man by going to Earth and unleashing the bioweapon upon us! and also from the trailer we see the Prometheus possibly intercept an Alien vessel. From the trailer we see that the planet is/has been terraformed, there's waterfalls, rivers..LV426 hasn't, and no Alien "temples" ( the dome like structures) had been discovered in either Alien or Aliens, so my theory is that it's a different planet, we also see from the trailer that members of the crew get infected with some kind of Alien DNA, and are mutated, and some infighting ensues, there's also a birthing sequence with Noomi Rapace character, Shaw (I think) so either the crew are infected by opening something they shouldn't ( we see DAvid opening one in the trailer) or the Engineers/space jockeys capture and experiment on the crew to punish them, there were reports from some scripts floating round over a year ago that there may be mind control involved, which makes sense if they are such a technologically advanced race who's tech is bio infused. There is also a theory that the Alien xenomorph mimics and mutates from contact with its host (hence the Alien/dog all 4's hybrid in Alien 3) and that the tall bipedal Alien from ALien is so, because it came from a human hostÉ. The Engineers may have terraformed earth and "created" us from part of their DNA, this would explain why they are humanoid, and it would also explain their wish to destroy us so easily if we have offended them, got ideas above our station in trying to steal their secrets from them! The Space Jockey/Engineers must be a very technologically advanced race, who have been terraforming for centuries and manipulating DNA must be easy for them, the Bioweapon that Ridley has talked about on many occasion ( and he did so on the commentary track to Alien) must be what they use to erradicate life, or as punishment/weapon etc.. and the Space Jockey in Alien may have been infected with the bioweapon either as punishment or by accident, my guess by accident, and that's the reason there were so many eggs in the hold of the ship, or maybe it was a queen that queen that emerged and laid the eggs? or maybe he was on his way to terraform LV426 but got infected by the bioweapon before he could use itÉÉ. And in Alien, Ripley translates the "distress beacon" as being a warning, so maybe the crashed SJ, was telling his crew to keep away.... Whatever the outcome, we are all in for a great movie!!!

I like where you're going with repeated chestbursting and healings. What if the "telescope" chair is really where an individual is locked into what we thought was a space jockey suit? We know for sure a t least one chest burst ocurred there but what if it was repeated and the telescope wasn't really a telescope. Maybe it's actually a microscope that's faced the other way. (I'm just throwing it all out there)

Well, I believe the name of the human ship is Prometheus, so I don't think the reference relates directly to the Space Jockey. In Alien, he was of some ancient alien race who got screwed by the xenos and before expiring sent off a warning signal to stay clear. I hope this is not a case of a director completely dismissing a previous (and in all probability superior) film/plot...Usually, the most important ingredient in a good horror film (which is what Alien really was) is the unknown factor: lets your imagination do some work. I for one don't want everything explained, because its usually a letdown... Side note: I still can't believe that Scott won an Oscar for Gladiator, while not even being considered for Alien or Blade Runner....

I just read an article in which Scott does indeed state that while this movie shares some of the ideas and images found in Alien, Prometheus is set in its own universe, quite separate from the original film. So, I guess my hope is in vain: the best way to view the upcoming film is to forget you ever saw Alien, or at least pretend the 2 films have nothing in common other than some coincidental bric-a-brac.

Changing topic perhaps, but has anyone noticed that the picture of the SJ sitting in the chair is clearly NOT an SJ - the being is way too small, shoulders not big enough, arms too short. Maybe it's David, maybe it's Shaw?

Some good ideas... But the one about the Jockey being David i dont agree with, i cant see how a Andriod would make a Host for the Alien Organism. In the Trailers you see the Space Jockey what apears to be 5 times. 1) The Bald Pale coloured Humaniod who looks a little worse for ware, see 16 seconds on Full Trailer. 2) At 1:58 You see simular Bald guy getting up from sqauted position as if he just activated something. 3) At 2:02 same being, walks towards the Pilot Chair as it rises, the Pilot Chair has what could be a Space Jockey Helmet on top in a raised position like say a visor on a Bike Helmet. 4) At 2:11 you see a being in the Pilot Seat with the Helmet on and the Chair Apears to attach and fuse itself to the Pilot, (we are talking Bio Mechanical Technology. 5) At 2:15 you see the lower part of what could be the same being, as this persons Suit looks more fleshy/Organic than the Crews one. Now the Female in that Scene Shaw, looks Terrorfied of that being, i would assume that these add up to the Space Jockey not being Human or a Mutated Human. Maybe the Space Jockey is the last of his kind, a dying Race who needs Mankind to spread his DNA, as we do only seem to see one in the Trailers, although one image on Google shows a pair of Space Jockey suits inc Helmet beind Shaw . The Empire Magazine Interview mentions Space Jockeys as 9ft. But its so hard from the clips to gauge how tall they are, as the Suits behind Shaw image they do not look more than 8-9ft Tall, The Pilot does not look to fill the Chair as much as the Alien one. But maybe because its Bio Mechanical the Chair having fused with a Smaller Pilot and then over years rotted/dried out i.e Mummified would mean its harder to tell the where the Pilot Starts and Chair Ends. The Pilot Chair and Pilot in Alien gives the impression of a 12ft Space Jockey, but someone in the Production Team did say SJ was 15ft cant remember who though. The Space Jockey in this movie is hard to Gauge as he seems to fit into Chair well and thus would apear to be 10ft, in scene walking to Chair he would apear to be about 8-9ft but in the scene with Shaw he looks much Smaller and only about 7ft. I guess we have to wait and see.

I had originally posted this blurb under another topic but thought I should but it here. Geez... all the conflicting ideas being flashed about on this can really send you for a loop. I have completely changed my whole thought behind the premise here now and I am wondering if it IS really more closely related to our Prometheus myth so to speak, but not so much that its MAN this is going to be punished, but the JOCKEYS! -------------------------------------------------------------------- I had always been envisioning this as it is the SPACE JOCKEY's who are the Masters and those who had been seeding life throughtout the stars with a grand design behind it all. But... the perfect image of a human head erected as if it is a God to have homage paid to it... In what appears to be a Temple no less, designed around the idea of the creation of life itself?? And this talk of "Blue Man Group" characters (hahaha) and that are maybe "mutating" crew members??? And now heaps of what appear to be SJ bodies... decaptiated as if "executed"?? Could it be that... - The "Blue" beings are not mutating "anything", but are in fact the ENGINEERS themselves, in their natural forms?? - That they do in fact actually see themselves as God's or God-like beings, and we were in in effect created in their image so to speak? But what of the Space Jockey? The Jockey's are clearly NOT us, or the Statue image. - Is the SJ nothing more than a SERVANT of the "God's"... destined to do their bidding and nothing more? Is the SJ nothing more than a convenient large "beast of burden" for the Engineers as most slaves in history were?? And has the SJ ANGERED the "God's" by providing a secret of the "God's" to us, man? and that the SJ's are now going to be punished for what they have done? - Is the future "Xeno" nothing more than something now crafted by the ENGINEERS to torment the Jockey's? To literally "tear out their livers from now until the end of time" for providing us (Man) with the secret of "fire" so so to speak? Geebus, I better stop thinking about this and just wait for the damn movie! Hahaha! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ((That was a paste of what I said in another thread)). Further... I am now thinking that the JOCKEY is literally nothing more than a "Delivery Man" for the ENGINEERS. Nothing more than a SLAVE or at the very least, an indentured servant.. An intergalactic UPS driver if you will...but a VERY DISGRUNTLED one at that. It could simply be that the actual ENGINEERS, while powerful and extremely intelligent (obviously), could in fact NOT actually travel great distances through space for whatever reason? The SJ could simply be nothing more than one the Engineer's creations that was well suited to this task. (Big, tuff & robust) Or maybe, the egomanical, full of hubris Engineers felt "Delivery" Duty to be a lowly task best assigned to less evolved underlings (The Jockeys)... Hey, just like a corporate boss on this planet having his secretary actually go pick up his dry cleaning or go out and by his wifes birthday gift while he goes golfing or visit his mistress... Hahaha.

@CanadaPhil I kind of think that the big blue guys, engineers and space jockey's are one in the same. However, I like what you touched on about how these beings are the ones being punished. Perhaps, these being stole power, and their "Gods" are punishing them, and we just happen to show up when the s#*t hits the fan. It was touched on in another thread about the mural clearly showing the Xeno. Perhaps you are right, maybe the "Xenos were crafted by the gods to torment the jockeys," or, what if the Xenos are the gods. Xenos are the perfect life form, so what if these giant humanoid beings stole something from them?

Hey Corey, I actually dont think the Xeno's are in any way the God's, but a perhaps sort of a last ditch creation of theirs as a "fail safe" if you know what I mean. Also, just to be clear, WE, the HUMANS are also going to punished... But I think its the SPACE JOCKEY that is the literal "Prometheus" in the story here. After all, Prometheus was a TITAN, not a man. I think I saw your other thread, and I think you had made a comment about the Engineers creating "artificial life" and that we will be stealing their secret. But I think It is WE HUMANS (in the movie mean) that have actually harnessed the power to create life artificially (DAVID the Android). The Engineers dont do it that way... They do it the molecular level with organic matter, not synthetic.. at least I think thats the idea. Now imagine if our arrival there is a COMPLETE SHOCK to them, not only because beings sort of in their own image have travelled across the Stars, AND are the creators of life as well as they are (so to speak). If they formerly thought of THEMSELVES as the Gods (and it appears they do), this would probably completely freak the Sheeeeet out of them!. Any imagine if WE were never supposed to have existed! That somehow some small essence of the God's themselves was taken without their knowledge and seeded on a world very far away. Well just how would that have happened?... The "Space Jockey's" were responsible! and they have to now be punished by the ENGINEERS for what they have done.. Of course, we have to perish as well... u know.. just because. :)

I would not say that David is in that Chair, whats odd is the Bald Person walking to the Chair has a Suit that looks very Organic and nothing like the Crews, it apears that a being with simular/same suit terrifies Shaw in one scene as she is on the floor. At the begining of the Trailer their is a Pale Bald Being, who looks very Human Looking, i think this is the same being that we see in other scenes and the Space Jockey.