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Eggs & Deleted Scene in Director's Cut

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So me and the Missus watched Alien again the other night and I took interest in the scene where Ripley finds Dallas and Brett cocooned. I never really noticed before but remember reading about people saying they were morphing into eggs, which I took with a pinch of salt. But if you look at Brett in this scene it really does look like he's turning into an egg, no mistake. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/Alien/d58d1a1b.jpg[/img] This would seem like the writers & Ridley didn't need a Queen for their lifecycle or anything to lay the eggs. I wonder if had this scene been included in the theatrical cut we would have had Cameron still create the Queen for Aliens.
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The whole degenerate into egg's was cut solely because of pacing reasons and I agree, as interesting as it is, it totally stops the movie. On one the audio commentary's, (not sure which, I have a few versions of the movie on disk. one has Ridley eating popcorn through out haha, another has a Ridley & Sigourney plus cast and crew commentary.) Anyway I remember talking about the bone ship and if that ship had also heard the distress call and landed (I guessed that was from the Temple script) and one where Ridley is talking about 'what if' the ship was a weapon with biological warhead's, making egg chamber inside the hold and the eggs really a kind of missile. No matter which is true, at least things that we never got to understand were thought about, if not truly established. Imo. I reckon the eggs are on-board, not beneath the bone ship.
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Again I don't want to get into the debate of what planet the derelict has crashed on, but here's a theory. The egg chamber found by Kane looks massive and seems to stretch off into the distance. In fact it looks like 3 miles long. I believe that the planetoid that the nostromo sets down is the SJ home world and the ship has coincidently landed straight over some subterranean hangar. I know the effects back in the seventies were a little basic and possibly perspective and distance were hard ton create but that egg lair just looks far to big to be part of the derelict. Any comebacks?
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With the humans turning into eggs idea does a similar think happen to dr gediman in alien resserection?
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I agree with dallas! Brett isn't turning into an egg, he's a nutritional resource for the egg or whatever is being formed int it. The urns have biological material in them, and I believe this material is similar to what the xenomorphs secrete. This "secreted resin" allows them to build things such as hives, eggs, cocoons, the walls seen in Aliens, etc. I believe organisms can also be formed from this material.
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These are all simply ideas and not confirmed..... Perhaps the Xeno DNA simply evolves into a different replication method everytime it needs to. We dont know. We dont know (yet ) if the eggs in 1 were cargo. We dont know if the eggs in 1 were laid there or were carried there. We dont know if the eggs were in the Derelict or in a subteranium cavern. Good ponts Infidel. Cannot wait to find out though!!!
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The Director's Cut (w the Dallas/Brett egg scene intact) is the version of the movie that's been running on HBO for the past few months. Before that, I had to grab my DVDs or go on YouTube if I wanted to see that particular scene. I can't help but believe there's a reason THAT version of the movie is being shown in the run-up to Prometheus. Just my guess...
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As alien as the turning into eggs thing might be, in the end it would be a highly ineffective way to breed for a natural species: they need 2 hosts to breed one new individual. Once there are no more hosts, there is no more reproduction. They could then try and use themselves as eggs and hosts (just speculation), thus becoming the only species that rather than increasing its numbers by breeding actually reduces it until self extinction. On the other hand, if they are not a natural species, but rather a bio-engineered weapon, then it all would make sense, being a highly effective and self cleaning weapon of mass destruction.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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Here is a site that debated just this issue. I originally saw the theatrical release and it was only years later that they released the Directors cut with that added scene with Dallas and Brett being cocooned and turned into eggs so thats why it was so hard to accept for me. The site I mentioned is [url=http://forums.sciflicks.com/showthread.php?t=12098]here[/url]. I now have no choice but to accept Ridley Scott's afterthought or initially deleted idea as an alternative xeno life cycle.
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According to the commentary on Alien, they removed that scene because it broke up the spine chilling action of Ripley running around the Nostromo in total fear. To stop the action long enough for her to have even a short conversation with Dallas didn't work in the final edit. Years later what became known as the directors cut was inadvertently delivered to some venue and it had been a forgotten nontheatrical version, but when people saw it, it increased interest in the franchise. There was a book version at the grocery store checkout book stands too by Alan Dean Foster and he attempted to deal with the problems of presentation of the xenomorph life cycle although its been too many years to remember what his version was. I just remember that he embellished it a bit too but he is a hack writer so whatever he wrote is not canon.
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My view of that scene was as follows.. The Xeno was able to somehow alter the DNA of the Host and mutate them into a Egg, and the other Host was cocooned because a Egg is useless without a Host for the Face Hugger. Thats what i saw in that scene, Brett was being changed into a Egg and Dallas was being used as the Host for the eventual Face Hugger that came from that Egg.

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Yep im with ya on that BigD. What about when the Xeno kills that other woman? Looked like it might've impregnated her =O A Xeno might have reproductive organs? RS only did the first movie, so the rest could not even be correct? Only the ones he direct link to eachother??
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He probably would have done knowing Jim Cameron.

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