The Derelict NEVER had a cargo of eggs..

Ridley says in the interview "How did the eggs get on the ship?". Although it seems the eggs were underground (I always thought they were on the ship myself, until someone brought up the point of the sheer size of the cavern), Ridley does say this in the interview with Empire. I think I read it before somewhere else too. Also I'm pretty sure the urns are in the Temple, not aboard the SJ spacecraft.

By saying this Hugh, we have to admit that architectures in the spaceship and in the temple are the same... When we see these tunnels, they don't have any "gigeresk" strutures. My opinion is that the tunnel which have "smooth" design are directly linked to a room of the spaceship. Ans urns are in the ship... Tunnels are an access to the ship... Does anyone ever seen GRANDIZER here? :D

Listen, you guys want a 1-1 prequel to Alien. Looks like that not's going to happen. I personally don't give a damn. I simply want a good science fiction movie. I want a movie that tops 2001: a space odyssey, if that's possible (but I doubt it). No more, nor less.

@CanadaPhil Hum... - Poor personal hygiene - Lousy "cuisine" and... - How to bend over and say "ahhhhh" for the Germans. I know, I am the first to admit it, that's how I feel about my own people, but you forgot one thing: how we excel at electing racist idiots. But it's just as bad as in Canada, don't you expertise in : -Shooting and molesting engendered (or not) wild animals? -French kissing the arse of the US and the British? -Playing pussy cats by not intervening in Europe's affairs until Hitler threatened the world? -Being owned by a Alice in wonderland queen?

Back for a bit... Geebus my head is starting to spin. hahahaha You guys got the image of temple and ship stuck in my head and then as I was flipping out of screens here, that one image of the Derelict exterior caught my eye... and then it made me think. Im not sure what its called, but Giger has a work of art that sort of shows the life cycle of the Xeno or whatever, that Ridley Scott sort of used a starting point for visual ideas in Alien. I think someone even showed it on this forum somewhere. In that print, surrounding it all it what is obviously the open legs of a woman with a beam or ray of something shooting from what would obviously be the crotch. This finally became apparent to me just now. .... The DERELICT twin boom shape is actually the open legs of a woman and at the center is the Jockey control chamber whatever, where something opens up and LIFE shoots forth from what was referred to as a telecope but can actually be something else. Look at the image of the Derelict closely on this very site... at the base of the twin booms is the same "seam" in the Giger print.. it actually kind of even looks like a zipper if you will that would open up! So, I always thought that the Giger art (which I never really paid attention to) was just an inspiration but is the premise actually returning to Gigers idea ((geez, what goes on that guys mind must truly be scary)) of well... geez, im not really sure what Giger's idea is...hahaha. But seriously though... The temple shape AND the Dereclit design are identical, and these shapes are clearly based on Gigers vision of it conforming to the legs of a females body and her ummm.. giney parts. Is this just simply... the artistic look that Ridley has stuck with, or is the whole premise now more of an idea of this being CLOSER to Gigers freaked out vision??? Man, this can get just nuts.

Whatever Heuss.. that discussion is dead.

Theory does not equal fact. Therefore, your statement "the eggs on the Derelict are in fact Transformed URNS" is false.

There was more that was being discussed here Darthie... But it looks like we can put you down for the Its a Bioweapon thingee then? Anyway, back to my last entry... Sorry I dont know where it is now, but can someone post the artwork Im taking about. It was on this VERY site somewhere... Looks to done in black ink, on a solid white background.. Has was looks exactly like a sort of modern day jet pilot with an oxygen mask (lol!) and what are clearly eggs, face huggers, female spread legs, etc., etc.

Well, looking at the trailers, it appears that the Prometheus purposely crashed into the alien craft for what purpose...to keep it from traveling to Earth. So why would you sacrifice your ride home unless you knew that alien ship or derelict craft contained something that was dangerous to all the inhabitants of Earth? And what are the chances that the craft landed directly on top of the temple?....infinitesimal, even by Hollywood standards. So the eggs we saw seem to be in the bowels of the derelict craft and ampules are in the temple. So perhaps the temple is the source of the alien (depository) ... sort of like a facility that they built in Norway to house all the seeds of the world in case of doomsday event. And perhaps, the eggs in the bottom of the ship did come from the xeno that eminated from the engineer. Either way, I doubt we are talking about the same things (eggs and ampules) although one source may have originated from the other. My question is, if this is LV426, then why didn't the crew of the Nostromo find any wreckage of the Prometheus when they visited the derelict craft in Alien?

I don't think the urns have anything to do with Alien eggs. It just seems weird that metal urn-like canisters can be turned into soft egg sacs. Something obviously laid those eggs in the ship. Whatever burst out of the Space Jockey laid the eggs, and then died. Perhaps the space Jockey knew what it was and created it to go after the humans when it was trying to get to earth, but the ship crashed before it could reach it's destination. But the Xeno itself was born after the face hugger planted the seed in the human. Whatever the face hugger implanted, it merged with the DNA of a human being and became the Xeno. That's my idea. I think whatever is in the urns evolves to different things depending on what type of life form it is. Thus creating different evolutions of species.

"I think whatever is in the urns evolves to different things depending on what type of life form it is. Thus creating different evolutions of species. " Would it involve lighting differences, air pressure, the technology used by it's discoverers, smells etc? I remembered the facehugger reacting to light in Alien.

Yes, I agree. The ampules are simply vessels that organic matte and "codes" that transform base elements it comes into contact with with NEW species. Im not disagreeing with that at all. But the chain of events that set in motion the creation of you know what is question. The simple summary is that there is NO Xeno yet, and NO eggs. But if what someone posted above is accurately quoting RS as saying there are EGGS already under the temple??? huhhh??? then is this then something as lame as the Xeno is a doomsday device??... Geez.

Perhaps this is what we will get, after all ridley scott said that we (the fan community) were annoying, so I'm prepared for anything. And to my xenophobic freind Canadaphil : the name' Heustess, or mr Brent to you if you prefer.

Neither, but thanks. Giger's print btw is called "Hieroglyphics". ((Going to try to find a nice clean image of it to link to)) I found some via Google that seem to match the print I was referring to, but the one I saw here seemed to be a little different with a brighter background? Maybe, Im mistaken. In any event, not sure if this is art that was done by Giger way back when or whether it was done AFTER Alien was released? Its just plain freaky in any event, but It seems to me that it is obviously where the shape of the Derelict is from and what it was supposed to symbolize... To Giger anyway.

so, is Giger directly involved with this film? I'm not sure. His influence is here more than any other film since Alien but I didn't see anything yet that reveals his direct involvement.

Guys, I think the derelict or some other derelict in a perhaps sequel to Prometheus flys away and crash lands on one of the small moon(s) surrounding the planet we see in Prometheus and that is actually LV-426 and on that moon the Nostromo crew land and find the derelict with the eggs in the belly. The Derelict that crashes near the temple in the (Prometheus trailer) ends up buried amongst lava, earthquake, explosion etc and is never found again. But the only thing thats stops my theory is in Aliens (If we follow that plot line) why would Weyland/Yutani want to terraform the small moon(s) and not the Prometheus planet if thay had a choice and if they did terraform it they would have found the temple ruins or remanents of it anyway. I'm just saying like alot of people have said the planet in the Prometheus trailer just doesn't look like the same one in the original Alien the atmosphere, rock structures etc. But one of those small moons could be LV-426 but I digress.

I have NO idea, but obviously they STUCK artistically with virtually everything Giger thought up. I mean, I had always thought the SJ chamber was nothing more than a bridge and that he was in a seat that used a giant telescope device as means of star charting. I had always laughed it off when I had seen others actually discussing it as well.. some sort of "Penis" gun insemnating life into the stars, but I think that really is what Giger is alluding to with this stuff. It could be nothing more than the art directors simply just using it all, but just for that....cosmetics?? But I really dont know now. Just look closely at the shot of the Derelict on this site. You can see it for a few moments when you back out of pages or change tabs if you know what I mean. The "crotch" seam is still there on the Derelict. PS: I imagine Giger must have been a really creepy, emotionally disturbed kid who sat at his desk and drew wangs and giney parts all day long.

"I have NO idea, but obviously they STUCK artistically with virtually everything Giger thought up." Well yes, true. The lighting and colour tones are Giger, even the ship to some extent, making it very either transparent, dark, white, blue and translucid. Ridley seems here not to be willing to evolve the style of the film...

This is making my head spin now. And I now have an entirely different take on this altogether. Hahahaha... Time to go beore I start to ramble again.

It the xeno doesn't exist yet, what explains the relief of a figure very similar to the xeno in the trailer. Is that the SJ version of concept art or a blueprint? I personally think the xeno exists well before the events of the films. They may even be a race that the SJs exalt, hence the carving or mural we see in the trailer.