The Derelict NEVER had a cargo of eggs..

@CanadaPhil I did think that Squidy was simular to Face Hugger but i am not sure, because looking at that Scene their does seem to apear to be a umbilical cord attaching it to Shaw. In another Scene Shaw has what looks like Stapples on her Tummy. Thus i think they knew she was carrying a Organism and they extracted it from her. There is one Scene where a Slug Like Creature climps up in to a tear in one of the crews Space Suits, could this then had climped up the suit and onto the Face of one of the Crew. We just dont know for sure... Again the Ship that Crashes in this Movie may not even be the same as in Alien? Its confirmed to take place 37 years Prior to Alien, which adds questions to the time span of if its the same, and Eggs was layed by some Queen and thus not the Plan of the Pilot then why do the Eggs in Alien seem to be under some kind of protective Mist that puts them in Stasis? The Queen Idea would mean laying Eggs open to Elements could they last 37 years?

ok ok...now that I read some other posts, I am thinking that the eggs on the derelict craft were put there by design, not as a result of a chestburster that comes from the spacejockey. The reason I say that is the blue mist that is covering the eggs in Alien. That was some sort of space aged 'saran wrap' that protected the 'cargo'. We haven't seen the blue mist or mentioned in any of the films since Alien. Perhaps the space jockey was infected before he took off. The resulting xeno may have burned it's way out of the control room. But I return to the blue mist...what xeno would have the technology to use blue mist after laying the eggs. It just seems more apparent to me that the eggs in the craft and the ampules in the temple are two different. Perhaps the ampules are arranged in the manner they are due to how the queen or whatever lays her eggs in nature. Regardless, the eggs were being transported for a purpose in my mind. If you look at how the eggs are in perfect rows in the ship's hold in Alien and compare that to the woodcuts that demonstrate how slaves would be positioned while being transported in sailing ships back in the 1700 and 1800's, you'll come to the conclusion that the layout of the eggs isn't a random thing that you would expect from the alien - it's more systematic of how to maximize the many eggs you can effectively store in the hold. That's my take - and some of Ridley's comments about Alien seem to support this. Thoughts???

Always doubted there were Alien eggs on the derelict as cargo...leaned more to seeing it as already inside the SJ before the derelict's last flight...when he realized he was infected, he knew what it was and set the derelict down on the remotest place he could find, set the warning signal and waited to die....he couldn't get out of the chair, Dallas clearly noted he was growing out of the chair. Alien busts out as Aliens like to do, scurries off, eventually laid/made eggs. I know very well all the talk about how the Alien has all the characteritics of being a weaponized and I agree with the main one..all it does is kill and not eat its victims, however, I don't believe it was SJ's cargo. SJ was infected by accident or sabotage deliberately....what's in the movie is all there is, I pay no attention to pre production backstories or outside material any more than Ridley Scott heeds all the sequels that followed his original

I can't remember--do we ever see eggs knocked over in the egg chamber in Alien? I'm just thinking about how the eggs would remain upright if they were onboard the derelict when it crashed. Unless they are rooted into the floor, having grown out of it like stalagmites. They could also be anchored by a strong biological glue under the egg--hey, we've got Gorilla Glue, they've got Facehugger Fixodent.

Oh man, we could have a million different theories on this movie. Who really knows. I was really trying to make sense of HOW do we get EGGS in 1979 as it has been said over and over that we would NOT be seeing any identifiable links to Alien until the final frames of this new film. I just have a really hard time with the idea that the 'Xeno' already exists in this time frame and there seem to be SO many "new" lifeforms or things that are "proto" lifeforms that we have not yet seen in Prometheus that it seemed like Ridley was going for an "evolutionary" type of scenario. @finster... To me the mist makes perfect sense in my theory, because there probably would have been some form of stasis type field to keep them um.. ampule/vessel/urns "fresh" on a long space journey. It would seem to make sense that it would have priority over other systems and that it would have been designed to operate as long as possible in the event of some emergency. So that would not discount it being in place for URN's transormed into EGG's. The Xeno would not have had any requirement to set anything up in that scenario. @BigDave.. The way I thought about it, there would have been SEVERAL steps in the whole process, but probably starting with DAVID intentionally messes with on of the bioformer ampules.. There is also the thing about the small black worm like things. I thought that was the mechanism by which the bio matter was FIRST placed/injected/whatever into the "host" organic elements/whatever?? Now what would have happened if the black wormy thing tried to interact with DAVID? Could it have maybe resulted in the next transformation which was a larger slimy eel like thing which then forced itself upon one of the crew if you will? The eel thing I saw briefly seems rather pale and whitish in tone... Made me think immediately of Ash & Bishops WHITE Android "Blood" if you will. Does this next Human DNA/eel interaction then result in the impregnation of Shaw of then subsequently "gives birth" to the "Squidbilly" baby which on the surface seems pretty reminicent of a you know what... Is that then the "proto" FACEHUGGER which messes with other crew members... or it that possibly the very mechanism that infects our dead Sd as seen by the Nostromo crew?? OK, how many new critters is that so far? Im starting to lose track. I guess all I can say now is that there just seems to be WAY TO MUCH stuff going on in this for a 2 hour movie? Sounds like it would in fact need a 3 hour Ridley "Director's Cut".... lolz :)

I would assume the Eggs are either able to secret a supstance that can keep them up right or they have some other way to attach themselves to a surface. Just how a Snail can Stick to a Wall?

[img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kr2hd2dDEb1qznvymo1_1280.jpg[/img] I think this is the image you mean CanadaPhil Indeed it could symbolise the Derelict Ship. If so It shows Ship Drop Egg, Space Jockey, hold down another Space Jockey while Face Hugger from Egg attaches to it. Then Shows that Implanted Space Jockey then getting a Chest Buster. Intresting to know the Alien Eggs, Face Hugger and Chest Buster all look very simular to this Giger Art Work. Whats more is that the Space Jockeys in this Art Work look a lot like the ones in Prometheus. As opposed to what we saw in Alien. By that the Giger Work it apears the Space Jockey is some kind of Space Suit. When Alien was made, people never knew what it was, could it had been some kind of Elephant Looking Creature and hence some Comics and Fan made Art that came out depicted the Jockey as such as opposed to a Space Suit with Helmet.

Well... We are back to the concept of "canon" and artistic freedom. As we discussed in another (old) thread, I think it´s impossible that the egg are cargo in the Derelict. Two reasons: _ the calculated dimensions of the Derelict don´t allow space for the huge chamber were the eggs stands; - the whole scene was an adaptation of the script after Fox suits denied Scott the funds to go ahead with the original idea: the Nostromo crew were to find the Derelict and also a temple where the eggs where laid. So Scott "fused" the two scenes in one. Besides: I think it is possible that the derelict crashed unto a temple, or a chamber near the temple. As I said in another thread, in one of the recent traillers there is a glimpse of the derelict start flighting above the temples. I think the "Prometheus" lands before the circular area, then the Derelict get´s out of the hangar and start its flight above the temples, then Prometheus go after it and crashes with the Derelict. What I didn´t understand is how the Derelict seems to fall near the place where Vickers and Shaw are. In that scene Shaw must be near the circular area _ we see her jumping between the hangar "petals" when they open apart. And we believe Vickers is in the scape pod, that seems to fly to a different place. So I think it is possible that the Derelict is very damaged after the collision but not totally incapable of flight, and try to return to the hangar...then it falls over Vickers and Shaw. What do you think?

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@BigDave Yes, thats it. Im not sure what the ORIGINAL date of the creation of that thing is, but I believe Giger has been making releases of prints of that over the years.. I think I saw it in said $3,750 each limited to a run of ???. I know his art was the inspiration of the look and feel of Alien... both in the creature itself AND the organic look of the craft. Now the issues about the underlying sexual symbolism of Giger's stuff... right down to the phalic nature of the aliens head, the violent mouth impregnation thing, the thing that the SJ is controlling is in essense a giant "you know what" for seeding life into new worlds, but does this mean that this idea is actually going to be part of Prometheus?? Cant be... I dont even think Ridley Scott is that brave. I think it just has to be that RS/his art departments and production team just stuck with the same overall look... all while probably snickering at the audiences who have been mostly clueless to all the overt symbolism?? I dont know. But I do realize know that the Derelict is in fact actually symbolic of open female legs. People for years have snickerd that the slit type openings right in middle of the craft are female genitalia. That rendering, plus others I have seen do show that really is what the Derelict is based on. And wow... geeez, now that I take another look at it is REALLY making me scratch my head. .. In Prometheus it appears from the trailers and current info that Shaw is giving "birth" to something squid-like via a C-section... And is that not EXACTLY what that rendering depicts if you look at it?? A wormlike thing coming from an abdominal slit, and this thing is in turn tranferred to an EGG! where that then matures into a Face Hugger which is then placed onto a Space Jockey so that it can impregnate it??? Geez... this is too weird. No idea what this mean. This idea would suggest that the Xeno is in fact in existance and that it would be the Xeno that in fact would be GOD from which other life springs from??? Oh this is nuts.

One thing I want to point out is that Ridley has always envisioned the Xenomorph as a weapon, and the ship as a bomber that would fly over planets and deposit the eggs. I believe he says this on the ALIEN DVD commentary. Now he may have changed his mind, but considering that this is how he once envisioned it I think it likely that we will see something like this.

Is the urns are transformed eggs, then why didn't Kane, Dallas and Lambert come across the giant face then? Eh?? The eggs in Alien are far below one of the SJ platforms in a gigantic corridor on the Derelict. The urns are right in front of the giant face in a completely different size/shape room in Prometheus. Did you even watch Alien?

Did I even watch Alien? How dense are you? There is NO temple or GIANT FACE to be found because LV426 is a small desolate moon! The Prometheus is NOT on LV426!!

I agree with egr101, the eggs would have to had been damaged after the derelict crash. In my theory, I think the derelict landed on top of a ampule room with eggs. I mean it seems that the temple can be a honeycomb of tunnels, and has a vast range of temple space.

@Finster about the Prometheus crash, nice observation. but the nostromo crew looked for the signal, and so just seeked out the derelict. after the facehugger attack, they didn't take time to explore more of the planetoid, right edit: wow seems there was 2 pages i missed to read, sorry :s