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The SJs ship - inconsistencies.

GuruMonkey

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Hello Am totally looking forward to Prometheus and am sure it's going to be marvellous but .... one thing I'm having trouble with is in the detail of how much the Space Jockey's ship in Prometheus differs internally to the one in Alien. Many features are different, if you look closely. I'm a bit of a lover of continuity and the fact the the interiors differ walls, and features on the Space Jockey's chair, floor around the seat) is cheesing me off a bit. It might have been a bit of a feat to pull off, but why didn't Ridley Scott faithfully reproduce the original ship? Is this the same ship? Is it a different one? I think Ridley has done himself a bit of disservice if he hasn't remained faithful to the original in detail. Maybe I'm just expecting too much, and maybe Ridley Scott wasn't expecting people to notice. But I do ... arrrgh :o)
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pauljt1980
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I get that the LV426 derelict could have already happened many many years before Prometheus, may be refered to at some point in this film but what happens in this story will simply run parallel to that.
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The reason the two designs are different is because the production designer on this film is Mr Mack not Mr Giger...
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i feel it would make sense if there are several ships on the planet and after a environmental catastrophe of some sort then maybe only one survives the carnage and that one is the ship in alien although snorky will beg to differ.
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Well the way i look at it is this.... in the 1970's they Special Effects and Budget was not as big and as good to get the details the Directors may have wanted. If Alien was made in the 90's then some things may have looked different. [img]http://media.photobucket.com/image/colonial%20viper%20MK1%20prop/mfbphoto/Colonial%20Viper/Colonial_Viper_03.jpg[/img] [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090803004147/batroid/images/e/ed/Fighter_viper_mk2.gif[/img] You can notice that those Vipers are the same kind of thing, they look different because the newer one has more detail due to advances in Special Effects. I would say the differences between Alien Derelict and the Prometheus one is likewise.

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well ridleys a stickler for detail and if he so chose to copy the original down to the last nut and bolt then arthur max is more than capable of pulling it off not taking into consideration that Giger is connected to this movie in some fashion. We are told that he has been constructing something for ridley, a project that has been vague in the details of which we are not sure. Some have speculated that the giant head is his work but i'm not so sure. On the other hand we are told that the face huggers had to be redesigned so our assumptions at this point are educated guesses , conjecture, and stabs in the dark, it all adds to the intrigue but its damn frustrating to. At the same time i'm pleased cos i want lots of surprises on june the 8
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Different ships. Agreed.
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Well if we look at the SPECIFIC "Dereclit" in Alien IS CLEARLY DIFFERENT that the one we see in Prometheus. This is actually the shape of the Derelict in Alien... [img]http://ioannis.virtualcomposer2000.com/writing/figs/derelict5.jpg[/img] You can check out a really cool page on the idea process behind the Giger inspired Derelict in Alien here... [url=http://ioannis.virtualcomposer2000.com/writing/Derelict.html]Genius of the Derelict webpage...[/url] Now, whether the specific differences are there for a reason or whether it is simply nothing more than a slight change decided on the art director is another matter. But strictly speaking, they are NOT THE SAME.
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Does no one else think of Pink Floyd when they look at the Derelict? ...:) ...
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Yes, and also a giant virus, the shape of one, non linear and abstract.
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I saw the original 'Alien' movie on the big screen some 30+ years ago. I also read the book prior to the movie (really a great book). It was a fantastic experience and I am so looking forward to seeing 'Prometheus'. I have, over the years, thought about what the xenomorph's were, where they came from, what their neutral colony would be like or if one even exists, etc.. Since I haven't seen 'Prometheus' yet, I don't know what continuity exists or doesn't exist. However, I will say, from the very beginning, I never thought the zeno-eggs were on the derelict space ship. I always thought the ship crashed on LV-427 and inserted itself into a cavern under the surface of the planet. The space jockey, goes into the cavern in an attempt to repair the ship, finds the eggs and, like Kane, finds himself in a world of hurt. I also do not believe the space jockey was alone on the ship. Like Kane, he was probably brought back on board in an attempt to extract the face hugger when that failed the chest burster does it's thing and takes out the remaining crew.. just like on the Nostromo. Before everyone is killed they are able to set a warning becon (remember, it was mistaken as a distress becon, but was later interpreted by 'Mother' as a warning beacon) to keep others away. I'll have to see how this long-standing theory plays out when I see 'Prometheus'.

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