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What is the human-sized biomechanical thing attacking Shaw?

whiskuz

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At 11:39 of the super slo-mo trailer you can see a human-sized character attacking Shaw. This character is obviously human-sized, but it has a pattern on it's legs very similar to that of the blue guy in the chair chamber. Is this David having been commandeered by the SJs/Engineers and "modified" by their technology? Or is it the mutated crew member? Could there be a mechanized component to his mutation? What do you guys think?
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spacyfreak
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I think there is no living engineer - some of the crew gets infected and "mutates to an old species" wich has gone long ago. They needed our dna component to come to live again...
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It's an alien. It is not a crewmember. It is not David or one of the other cast whose names you never heard before. It is an alien. Not THE alien from the first film, but an alien we have yet to see fully. Why would Scott cast Fassbender, with his eye-candy looks, only to convert him to some unrecognizable alien character halfway through the story. Not gonna happen. Scott paid plenty for Fassbender's pretty mug, and he is not going to cover it up. It's not a crew member, either. If Scott made the final confrontation between Shaw and someone else, it's not going to be some no-name crew member. I have never heard of most of the cast actors until this year, and by making the final confrontation between Shaw and the "creature" essentially a confrontation between Rapace and some actor nobody has heard of until now, well, that's not very exciting, is it. It would make one of the supporting actors one of the main actors, wouldn't it. That is not how movies work. The big names - Theron, Fassbender, Rapace - they get the main characters, not some nobody. And the big names don't get their entire faces and bodies changed into some unrecognizable form. What is the studio paying the big bucks to the A-list acotrs for? To be SEEN. Your theory is not even close.
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^ MF is a robot - there could be loads of him, so one getting mutated is nothing. regarding your big paragraph, well that s exactly what happened in alien...
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@bonus situation Isn't that what RS did in Alien? Granted, times have changed, but dont underestimate Ridley on this one.
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First of all, there is no theory element in my post. Just facts and questions. Second of all, to say that a director would never "deface" a good looking actor in a movie is absolutely ridiculous. Why was Charlize Theron cast as Aileen Wuornos in monster then?????? According to your theory, they would never pay a good-looking actor to be fat and ugly in a film. I'm not sure if you were aware of this thing called "acting" that actors do. Some of them are better at it then others and sometimes, just sometimes, actors get hired because of how well they can act, not because of how good looking they are. I know it sounds crazy, I didn't believe it myself. Secondly, to say that destroying/defacing something beautiful, people included, is never a theme in film is absolutely wrong. Thirdly, nowhere in my post do I state or imply that there is one "creature" and it is attacking Shaw in this scene. Everyone in this forum, except for you, knows there are multiple "creatures" in this film, as Ridley has said so explicitly. Fourth, to state that someone's theory, if in fact you were commenting on a theory of mine---which you are not, is "not even close," when you nor me nor anyone else in this forum, save for Ridley and Damon if they are posting in here, know what happens in this movie is ridiculous.
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well rapace is also not "so big" in hollywood like for example angelina jolie (though i did not like ANY of jolies roles, to me simply a boring, bad actress..haha.. but she has heart for poor children, or maybe thats just a fashion nowadays, i dont care..). Anyway - the "thing" attacking rapace is the "kojak-type" who walks at the spacejokey-chair-room. Where did he come from? I believe he was a crew member and mutated. Something else - what the hell is THIS? A face? [img]http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/090412211712_engineer.png[/img]
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First of all, I never stated a theory, just facts and questions. Second, on the topic of why studios hire actors, I'm not sure if you've ever heard of this thing called "acting," but it's something actors do. Some actors are better than others at "acting," and once in a while an actor gets hired because of how good they are at it, not because of their looks. I know, I know, I didn't believe it either. So tell me, why did a studio pay Charlize Theron to be fat and ugly in Monster? According to your theory, that would never happen. Third, everyone in this forum but you knows there are multiple "creatures" in this film, as Ridley has said so explicitly. I never stated this was "the" creature. Fourth, your claim that defacing/destroying a beautiful person is not a theme in film is pretty silly. Do you watch movies????. Examples: English Patient, [add in any number of the hundreds of films that have explored this theme].
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Scott is not going to cover up Fassbender halfway through the movie and make him completely unrecognizable. Scott is not going to cover up Theron halfway through the movie. No-name actors, yes, he is going to cover them up or get them killed off. What a stupid movie it would be if some random crewmember turns into the alien being we have all wondered about for the past 30 years. Stupid stupid stupid. "Oh, it's just a guy that used to be a human. Great." It is easier to believe that the Prometheus crew meets members of an alien civilization that it is to believe they simply meet themselves as "mutated" crew members? Obviously one or more crewmembers undergo a physical change, but you are telling me that they change into a 13 foot alien being? And then by virtue of changing into a 13 foot alien being they just know how to operate all the mechanical devices found on the planet? They simply just know how to make an alien ship rise from the surface of the planet? Sure, I can get a face transplant now and undergo a transformation, but that doesn't mean I now know karate or how to operate a nuclear reactor. That is just silly. Scott says the human crew finds a civilization, a civilization that behaves uncivilized.
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OMFG...what are you talking about??????? Where are you getting all this nonsense from????? You must be new here. Please re-read my OP.
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@Whiskuz its just bait!!! stop being drawn in before its too late!!! LOL
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Haha. That was my last post in this topic. I promise.
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It's clear as day what I am saying. David does not turn into some mutated creature that then goes and attacks his crewmates. That is a stupid plot. I just demonstrated how fullof holes that plot would be. OK, let's say that is David, now completely unrecognizable. So Fassbender is only in half the film, and the second half he is replaced by a different actor wearing prosthetics. So how does mutated David - or anyone else for that matter - how does he know how to fly the U shaped alien craft? Please do tell me.
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If that is your answer to the question I posed, then why is it human-sized? You didn't answer that part. If it were as big as the blue guys are in the other shots, no mystery...but it isn't. Hence the question.
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You haven't seen the entire sequence, so you cannot judge the proportions based on a one second clip. You haven't answered my question: If the main antagonist or creature is simply a transformed crewmember, how do they know how to raise the 'cannon' and fly the alien ship? Won't that require a lot of explanation and boring exposition?
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You must be new here...
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@SPACEYFREAK, Gotta say it 'cause I love film. I do not think her roles have been that exciting to me EITHER , but Angelina Jolie has gotten this far because she isn't just pretty, she is a FABULOUS ACTRESS DUDE. INCREDIBLE EVEN...A VERY VERY VERY ACCOMPLISHED AND TALENTED ACTRESS. PERIOD.
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Yes you can. Her lower leg and knee is right next to it's and it is almost as tall even though it is at an angle and not straight up and down. If you don't believe that, look at the door. This is on the human-sized ship. Where are you getting the "main antagonist" element from? I never suggested this thing is the main antagonist. You are assuming that the mutated crew member is the main antagonist. And that doesn't address the possibility of the android becoming "infected" by their technology in some way shape or form. Notice I'm not saying "becomes the antagonist." I'm not hearing a theory that explains the size of the creature from you, which was the purpose of the post.
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@Bonus Situation Frankly, your contention that Scott wouldn't cover up [i]any[/i] of these actors in prosthetics, make them unattractive etc., halfway through the movie is nonsensical. As was already pointed out to you, directors do that kind of thing all the time, and actors often accept roles which call for it, because they tire of playing similarly "glamorous" parts. To answer your last question, there are numerous instinctual animal reactions/behaviors which are hard-wired into their DNA. For example, a baby bird doesn't need to observe a snake eating another bird, to know that it represents a significant threat. The SJs can apparently manipulate DNA on a very profound, sophisticated level, so we can presume that including "race memories" in a strand of DNA wouldn't be any more difficult than programming in C is for us.
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I will put it this way: I am very very very very very very glad you had nothing to do with the story or scriptwriting for Prometheus. Michael Fassbender, a very fast-rising A-list actor, would never agree to be cast in a part that requires him to do essentially voice acting the second half of the film, assuming the creature he supposedly becomes has a speaking part. And let's say the creature does have a speaking part - you gonna tell me it will be Fassbender's voice? So the nature of David is completely and utterly changed into something else yet it retains Fassbender's voice. Stupid. Never will happen. You will see that the humanoid standing over Shaw is the same creature seen in the star map chamber, or one of the same kind. It is an alien being. What a stupid plot to have the android go rogue and start attacking people - again. They did that on ALIEN. It's been doen to death. Move on.

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