Prometheus takes place in LV-223!!!

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April 10, 2012
That has happened to me too NOX...
Personally, I feel that speeds multiple times the speed of light as an utter pipedream.
But accelerating to 1g using sustained thrust over time... ie YEARS, makes perfect sense... but then there is the other main issue... How do humans keep from turning into goo when protons travelling at hyperspeeds are passing through our bodies!!.. and lets not even get into the billions of small particles or pebble like meteorites that would be crashing into your vessel at hyperspeeds.
This is why at best, we will probably never even realistically have a chance of sending anyone to anything further than Mars or within our own solar system.
April 10, 2012
@Snorkelbottom (and whoever might be interested)
~ means "about" (approximation)
e is used to write ludicrously huge numebrs in a compact form (it's called scientific notation) 1.0e6 for example means 1.0x10^6 and equals 1,000,000. Basically the number after the e is the number of "0"s that follow. 3.2e15 is something you wouldn't want to see written in full! :D
Catalogation systems are not based on real distances between objects or on how related they can be. As a matter of fact, items from a same catalogue can be completely unrelated and very far away from each other.
As an example, one of the oldest catalogation systems still in use is the Messier catalogue, which was published in the 18th century.
There are two objects, M30 and M31 which come one after another in the sequence, but they are two different things (one is a star cluster, the other a galaxy) and their distance from earth is extremely different (one a few thousand ly, the other a couple million ly!). One of those is the Gliese catalogue, which was under the spotlight some time ago, and is a list of stars close enough to our Sun.
What do you mean that the numbers don't add up?
Also, 340ly is a very short distance in galactic terms, we might say it's not very far away from the Sun. The galactic core is about 30,000ly away.
And yes, the weyland site makes reference to Z Reticuli, and to LV-426 being there.
I am not saying that it is all wrong, just that those figures need confirmation, and if they're correct Lv-223 is nowhere close to lv-426, nothing more, nothing less :)
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
"Catalogation systems are not based on real distances between objects or on how related they can be. As a matter of fact, items from a same catalogue can be completely unrelated and very far away from each other.
As an example, one of the oldest catalogation systems still in use is the Messier catalogue, which was published in the 18th century.
There are two objects, M30 and M31 which come one after another in the sequence, but they are two different things (one is a star cluster, the other a galaxy) and their distance from earth is extremely different (one a few thousand ly, the other a couple million ly!)."
This is what I was thinking, too. Ty Nox.
April 10, 2012
Finally we can end the 'it takes place on lv426' argument.
RS has said all along the ending of Prometheus is not Alien.
April 10, 2012
And now you can take your mask off, TheNextLV426, you are LV223, aren't you?
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
Lol NoXWorld
The nextlv426 name tag was only because I couldn't think of anything better when I signed up.
I have never assumed LV426 would be in the movie. RS said we would not meet the SJ from Alien and I believed him.
It seems like some people like poor Sparticus are having a hard time dealing with the truth.
I did say some people were going to be disappointed
April 10, 2012
Yay. I never thought it would be the same ship or planet. Man, people are pissy about being wrong....
I may work for the company, but im really an OK guy.
April 10, 2012
I dont' understand the consternation about "two wrecks in the same system." For all we know, the "derelict," was still flight capable. In any event, it doesn't appear that an engine went out, or that there was any other failure of SJ technology.......the pilot was clearly attacked by a facehugger. The ship in "Prometheus" is rammed by an enormous spacecraft, whereupon it smashes into the ground.......yet it appears to be completely intact. Again, for all we know, It may in fact, remain flight capable. In any event, what happened to both ships, was a result of external causes/events, unrelated to the reliability of any advanced technology used in their construction. What's the problem?
Even in the real world, sh!t happens.
April 10, 2012
And there is the possibility of it still being the same ship that eventually repairs itself or gets repaired and has to make a emergency landing on lv 426 due to its cargo being compromised or some other significant reason for it to land on lv 426 after the events of prometheus .
After all if the ship has suffered from a major incident involving a substantial collision then it may be operational up to a point but because of the damage sustained in prometheus it malfunctions and is forced to land later on lv426 a very close neighbouring planet.
April 10, 2012
I haven't read all of the replies to this post yet so forgive me if this was posted already...., but, consider that Peter Weyland gets in the pilots seat of the ship with the eggs, because he's been infected--(that he created when he landed on lv-223 with the heliades) and crashes on lv-426 when he gets chest bursted. ---I KNEW THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF ONLY ONE SHIP AND THE PROMETHEUS PLANET WAS LV-426 WAS TOO FAR FETCHED!!! bear with me.....but.....I WAAAS RIGHT! (possibly) haha.
April 10, 2012
I like the sound of that except how about it being David not Weyland, that would explain the biomechanoid aspect to the xeno lifeform mixed with the artificial dna of the android, and the dna sequence of the vial life form. Again though this is apparently not a direct prequel to alien so its all pie in the sky but feasible speculation.
April 10, 2012
Well, Ridley said that Prometheus does not reveal all mysteries, therefore:
1-LV-223 is another planet, that would make possible a sequel or simply to preserve the mystery forever.
2-LV-233 and LV-426 are the same planet, but curiously in Alien is a dead planet and in Prometheus instead on a planet with conditions similar to those on Earth. Not sure, but it is possible that something happens (catastrophe, terraforming or whatever) and that fact influences the change of name of the planet (perhaps to hide, do not forget that the crew of the nostromo had no idea the events of Prometheus)
April 10, 2012
Perhaps Spartacus over reacted just a touch due to his passion, but, as Snorkelbottom said, we need to be civil here guys.....I personally have no issue with this idea at all....I like it...so there's more than one ship belonging to a space faring race...who'd have thunk it?.....anyway, what happens to the derelict in 'Alien', as another poster said, logically is due to an egg releasing its contents and what happens in 'Prometheus' is due to human intervention...what's so awful about that?...I LOVE that this film is its own story, sure Ridley insists the DNA of 'Alien' is there...but WHY do we HAVE to have it be LV-426? I don't see the absolute need, especially considering the fact that...WE HAVEN'T BLOODY SEEN ANYTHING WORTH COMMENTING DEFINITIVELY ABOUT YET....thank you...
April 10, 2012
In the words and voice of Emperor Palpatine, "Everything is proceeding as I have Foreseen...He he he."
~N
April 10, 2012
This is the part that bothers me:
[quote][i]Scott commented on what brought him back to the Alien universe – The sequels had not [b]explored the biggest question – who was was the Space Jockey, why did he have that cargo, and where was he headed with it?[/b] The Alien sequels were “all jolly good, in one for or other”.
While the project started as an Alien prequel, the more he got involved in another story, the “less inclined I was” to connect it to Alien.[/i][/quote]
Ridley keeps raising these questions like they're important, but are any of them answered in the film? I don't care if it's literally the same planet/guy or not. But because we now know it isn't, I'm at a loss not knowing what's actually left.
I'm all for metaphorical answers, that stuff doesn't bother me. It's the idea that the jockey ship is there because they already did the set and CGI before the plot was re-written. That gets me fuming.
April 10, 2012
I think you're fuming over nothing. Wonder of wonders, the SJs have more than one ship, and the answer to the question about cargo may well be answered indirectly. The decision not to make it a direct prequel was in all likelihood, made early in the pre-production phase of this project; [i]certainly not[/i] after cameras started rolling.