Prometheus takes place in LV-223!!!

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April 10, 2012
Who knows...maybe two derelict type ships chase each other over to lv-426 and one ship uses its gun/telescope to shoot a couple of very large holes with urn ammo into the other which crashes on lv_426 with some urns letting loose their goo / eggs.....you know the rest of story (Alien).
April 10, 2012
So instead of a series of films that focus on the culture/civilization the derelict came from, some of you would rather have a single, much smaller (in a story sense), film, the ending of which you already know?
Who cares what planet it takes place on? I don't understand why people are so obsessed with LV426 and the original space jockey, when we potentially have a world of space jockeys being created for us by Ridley via this movie and several hopeful sequels.
I said this before, we may only come to understand why that ship was on LV426 via and understanding of the customs/culture of the SJs/engineers in general and that's fine with me. We're getting more xenos (possibly), new aliens, more SJs, more violence, more Giger, and possibly bigger, better sci-fi films from the studios as a result of this film. What is there to complain about, really?
Just my opinion.
April 10, 2012
@Nox...
Sorry Im really confused now. As per Snorkle, who are you quoting there... officially released info or a member? I think the number has been mistated.
The system is approx. 39 light years away in most information out there... and that would even be a severe stretch for ANYONE to assume a human could even reach that let alone something 340 !!! That would be even beyond non-sensical Star Trek plots.
BTW, folks, LIGHT YEAR is a measure of DISTANCE... dont confuse it with TIME.
April 10, 2012
I am quoting the reports from 2 different members (DJAB and TheHighPriest), who have reported from other sources in their turn. I am basing my speculation only on those numbers I have read, but they can be completely wrong. The validity of my point strictly depends on the accuracy of those numbers.
And yes, we have to accept FTL travel in order for everything to work. And one can assume that once you can go faster than light it can be 10 or 100 times faster either.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
I have a hunch this will be a story which occurs during the same time or right around the time of Alien. Prometheus happens, and something makes the company wake up the occupants of the Nostromo to set down on LV-426. Maybe the crew (or company droid) of Prometheus finds out where the other "derelict" ships are scattered and the company just happens to have a freighter passing by one of the locations, 0-30 years later.
April 10, 2012
Right so if you get up to the speed light to short order and have good brakes :) you could arrive in 39 years.
April 10, 2012
Right so if you get up to the speed light to short order and have good brakes :) you could arrive in 39 years.
April 10, 2012
Actually, how would a human reach something even 39 light years away? That would take 39 years at the speed of light which we believe via relativity to be an impossibility as your mass would be infinite, 68 at half the speed of light which is almost as silly as the speed of light, 390 years at 1/10 the speed of light which is still utterly ridiculous.
If we accept that they can reach a planet 39 light years away, then they can reach one 390 light years away because they're probably bending space to get there. Without something that makes distance almost negligible, its kind of a silly proposition. I know we have no idea how to do that, but getting there using traditional propulsion, even employing anti-matter or anything else that is many, many times more powerful per unit volume than traditional fuel, flys in the face of what we know.
April 10, 2012
@Snork
(1) 1 ly = ~9.5e12km
(2) reported distance = 3.2e15km
if we divide (2)/(1) we get ~336 ly
So that would be the alleged distance of lv-223 according to (unverified) reports
The Zeta Reticuli system, on the other hand, is 39 ly from Earth.
@whiskuz
exactly, this is where we have to suspend our disbelief. They say it takes 2.5 years to get to lv-223 (in Alien it would take 10 months from LV-426 to Earth). We have to concede that FTL travel is achieved in some way.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
OK.. so it was from "members" then. Well, I think they are simply mistaken then and misquoted it by a factor of 10 times.
And it would be an utterly complete suspension of disbelief to believe that we could ever travel 100 times the speed of light, when most theories concur that it is theoretically not breakable.
I had found a great page a long time ago that pretty much explained this concept in laymans terms (I will try to find it again). Hawking even has some great info on the concept of Time Dilation.
The site I had found examined a theoretical trip to a planetary cluster that was 34 light years from Earth (pretty close to the 39 of Zeta Reticuli). It has been surmized that if we could developed a form of engine that could sustain its thrust literally for years and if we could accelerate to a point just shy of the speed of light, we could traverse that distance of 34 light years in approx. 7 years sustained flight time (which would actually translate to 34 ish YEARS in time surpassed back on Earth!!... This is the "Time Dilation" concept which has NEVER been acurately portrayed in any sci-fi)...
So in other words, people who want to work in Space in the future should probably be SINGLE and/or not have any pets left back at home that need to be fed and waterered. (But they would probably be well paid though!)
April 10, 2012
I think NoxWord is right on target - there's probably something else at work other than simply getting a spaceship to move at a very high rate of speed.
On another note, I just read that "leaked" script that was posted here, the one that was supposedly confirmed by this latest bit of preview footage, and I gotta say... it's awful. What a juvenile, amateurish, clumsy, awkward piece of dreck. I don't believe for a second that it's genuine, and I see no need to worry.
April 10, 2012
spartacus, by reading all the details and exposed plot, you basically ruined the movie for youself bro. Scott said its a stand alone movie and we know for a fact that the jockeys are a race of humanoids, so there is more than a million. The movie is about more than the jockeys, its about evolution, and where everything comes from. If you based everything on a deserted rock like 246, it would have less total value because it would be an exact alien prequel. from high res images, you can see that there are 7 or 8 buried crescent ships on lv-223. So i doubt the jockeys crashed there. It almost seems that its a warehouse or brreding ground for jockey testing.
April 10, 2012
I know this is a bit off-topic. But such a travel would most likely be on constant acceleration until midway, and then equal but opposite deceleration until destination. In that scenario the acceleration provided by the thruster could be used to simulate artificial gravity (by orienting the ship appropriately). Otherwise the use of artificial gravity in sci-fi movies totally baffles me (except for 2001, which is adherent to our current state of the art).
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
No, you don't need FTL to create 1g, and that's not what I mean. In order to achieve FTL you have to accelerate (you start from idle). But you can use your acceleration in most useful ways than just being strapped to a seat with your face skin being lifted towards the back of your head :)
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
@Nox... yet last post was bang on... YES, we have to factor in the DECELERATION.
And the creation of gravity has never been depicted accurately in sci-fi. 2001 at least made a decent effort, but 2010 was much more accurate with the LEONOV having the rotating crew sections.
This same concept was also used for Earth vessels in the 90's TV series BABYLON 5, which to me apart from the sometimes silly/magical Alien technology, was an increbibly accurate depiction of what a vessel built using human engineering would function like.
April 10, 2012
OMG my post was lost! Arghhhhhhhhh
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@Snork
sorry, I wrote a post to explain what you didn't understand, but it disappeared... :(
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.