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2fray2

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Ok dudes ! It seems a little bit crazy... But imaginie: the vessel is alive. When you think that the vessel structure is "exo-skelleto-biologic" or "bio-mechanoid" note that In that case, the space jockey is not especially a "pilot", but just the heart of this "host"... voila, voila, c'est la vie... crazy ?
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TheNextLV426
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I have been reading Alien the last few nights. I do get the impression that the ship is organ or grown rather than created. I don't think it constitutes as to being alive, at least alive as we know it.
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Gavin
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So explain the pilot growing out of the seat, or the fact that the corridors of the shape have bones?!?

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Perhaps not alive, but made grown or fused from organic material. I've always felt like the Derelict have a very eery yet biological look about it.
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@snorkelbottom It is conceivable that the SJs grow the ship and it is organic in nature but I am not willing to believe that a xeno grows up to be a spaceship. Besides, we have already seen a queen lay eggs so we know the process. The eggs in the ship are easy to explain. They were laid by the alien that hatched from the SJ
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maybe the ship is feeding off the SJ, like how a snake would digest its food over long period of time?
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@ukalien Possible. But more probably that SJs have evolved beyond using metal and plastics to growing everything organically. I expect if you were to visit the SJ home world they would live in organically grown houses made out of the same material. I'm not dissing your theory, I would just take a bit of convincing :-)
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@ukalien Possible. But more probably that SJs have evolved beyond using metal and plastics to growing everything organically. I expect if you were to visit the SJ home world they would live in organically grown houses made out of the same material. I'm not dissing your theory, I would just take a bit of convincing :-)
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[quote]The eggs in the ship are easy to explain. They were laid by the alien that hatched from the SJ[/quote] That's what I thought about 18 months ago, have found out different since then, the truth is we really don't know this for a fact. In fact it is IMO the biggest mystery left over from the film Alien.
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I think the Ship is bio mechanical in a way but i dont think it is alive as in can controll itself. The ship i feel is mearly like a Snails Shell. or a Oysters etc. EDIT FROM SPARTACUS--> AND GETTING YOURSELF BANNED = PRICELESS lol... fantastic that made me chuckle.

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1st off that facehugger would have had to have been a Queen, and as Snorky has pointed out the hole leading down into the underbelly/cavern is pretty big. Did a QUEEN BIRTH GROW AND THEN LAY THEM, WHAT ABOUT THE LASER LIGHTS AROUND THEM PROTECTING THEM? There seem to be more questions then answers actually.
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Actually @Spartacus, we don't know if the xenos are able to become queens if there are no existing queens in the hive. Otherwise, what are the odds on Newts parents finding a queen face hugger in a ship full of eggs? probably just as low. The laser lights I will give you. I cant explain that. The laser light wasn't in the book. In the book Kane finds urns and one of them is empty and that wasn't in the movie so there was some cost cutting done there. IMHO I dont believe the ship was transporting eggs but transporting urns. That I hope will become clear in 58 days
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@TheNextLV426 You mean Dallas ? [img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d105/solicia/PrometheusAlien/NovelPages/Urns.jpg[/img]
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I agree "Next"...completely, and what i meant by Lights was that filmy thing coating them which is hard to speculate on as to it's origin. So I have to agree that on closer examination of that whole deal down there and up there and all around there, that we just "Don;t know for sure" and hopefully..."YET" cause damn it I wanna know, don't you guys?
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@2fray2 - yep sorry I mean Dallas. These urns are hopefully the same things we are seeing in the Prometheus trailer. Everyone has their own guess on what they are but I think its safer to store something dangerous like a face hugger and other nasties in urns rather than in an egg form. Eggs have a habit of opening where urns have a lid. @spartacus - absolutely I am looking forward to the movie. I just hope that RS doesn't try anything to outlandish that will spoil the franchise. I'm sure he wont but....
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TheNextLV426 :we don't know if the xenos are able to become queens if there are no existing queens in the hive. Otherwise, what are the odds on Newts parents finding a queen face hugger in a ship full of eggs? probably just as low: in response to that dude when the marines in aliens found the labs there was evidence that weyland - yutani had ALREADY experimented on the facehuggers. My point being there probably wasn't such thing as the queen till the humans had tampered with the alien somehow, could of been a way to mass produce them for their own needs
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@ukalien Was that not just the colonists removing face hungers from other colonists. I don't recall there being a company presence, other wise, why send Ripley
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IMO the eggs aboard the derelict are cargo gathered from another world were the alien had been dispatched, not from a Queen being born of the SJ.

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Thats a possibility @snorkelbottom but then where did the alien that hatched from the SJ go? In a way I hope Prometheus keeps some secrets because its good to speculate.
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We may see that in a true Alien prequel, but the SJ born Alien is in the novel adaptation, that 2fray2 referenced above.

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I'm not necessarily saying any of that. The goo breathes life, intelligent life, into whatever it comes in contact with. A beautiful thing, when done correctly, you get living things like what we have on earth. But in the wrong hands, or incompetent hands, it could manifest itself into forms and 'mistakes' like the xenomorph, or a spacecraft that is coming to life, and potentially taking whatever evolutionary path the goo sets it on. That's what I'm saying.

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