Giger's Alien Mural, Link to Prometheus.

nlpg

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Hey folks. I want to make it quick, since the idea is very simple. Currently we witness a lot of influence of older Giger works on PROMETHEUS. Hence, it would be wise to take a closer look to the original lifecycle mural he created back in 1978. I know it has been discussed on this forum before, but I don't think from this perspective: Although (maybe) not intended in '78, it holds much more info about the queenless, original lifecycle depicted in ALIEN. This information links to PROMETHEUS. First, see the picture: [img]http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o612/Nephilim-LV426/Prometheus/Giger_Alien_Life_Cycle.jpg[/img] It shows what we all know – the making of an egg, facehugger and eventually the chestburster. If we now take a look at the upper part, something curious comes to the eye – and something that has been observed before. A worm is wiggling it's way into (or from) an eyeball. Giger surely placed it there as a mocking image of God's eye in the pyramid (see the triangular shape), but it might have been an inspiration for the infection scene with Holloway in it. FURTHERMORE, and now the interesting part, can interpret this worm-thing as coming out of the woman's belly, the woman which is enclosing the scene with her whole body. In this case, the "eye" is the very opening of the belly this "worm" is protruding from. I am saying: The woman gives birth to an alien egg. Telling from the image, this is logical, as the "worm" can be seen at the underside of the eggs in the lower parts, too. Matching this with the footage from the PROMETHEUS trailers, I raise the following theory: After Holloway is infected by a small organism while researching, he has sex with Shaw, impregnating her. She then gives birth to a living alien egg. Notice here: The overall shape of the wiggling creature in the Medpod is similar to that of an alien egg (Oval "head", tentacle-like base) This alien egg is the prototype of a creature we meet in ALIEN. I'm not speculating on whether we meet the facehugger / chestburster of this alien in the finale or not. I want to resume the clues given: 1. Scott refers to a lot of Gigers original work (Temple, murals, alien hieroglyphs) 2. The mural image of Giger holds tempting similarities to scenes in the trailers. 3. The resemblance of the "Shaw Baby" and the "Alien Egg" That's it. I'm curious about your thoughts. Do you see the same links between the life cycle image, and the PROMETHEUS trailers? What do you see? Thanks for reading!

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April 16, 2012

There seems to be a problem because my comment went straight to trash, too. I'll recapitulate quickly: 1. It's not about what this mural was originally meant to be, but what Scott and Lindelof might have created out of these visuals for their story. So there's no need to discuss the impossibility of this concept based on the argument that in 1978, Giger did not know of Holloway. Yes, but in 2009, Scott knew of Giger's mural – and the woman, the womb, the worm, the eye. So he might have fashioned his story from that. 2. I think it is safe to say that the "Alien-DNA" quote tirelessly brought up is NOT to be taken literally. Scott meant, that this movie shares the same DNA as ALIEN in sense of style, background, universal things.

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April 16, 2012

allinamberclad, yes that's what I thought too… strange lifecycle to reproduce with 2 stadiae of eggs. BUT maybe this is the whole deranged process, how the alien came to be in the first place. Maybe it's so simple that it wiggles out of shaw, only to retreat to a corner and breed that facehugger. remember of unspectacularly frightening the facehugger of ALIEN found his end. not creating much racket other that jumping at kane and then die in the medlab…

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@jbsmit3@gmail.com Happens to me, i guess it serves people who write to much right lol. There seems to be a timeout on these boards, when you dont post a reply after so long, it logs you out and any work you did would be gone. Your best typing what you want but before you hit that post button, copy everything you typed and then press post. If it does not apear, check at the bottom and you will see your not logged in, log in and then paste your post and then post it.

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@nlpg I get where your comming from, and indeed that Mural could be interpreted as a Females Legs open, and a Eye and a Worm in the Eye. Maybe Ridley had same idea? For sure i think the progenitor to the Xeno Organism that apears in Alien etc, is created or traces its routes directly to what ever has happend with Shaw and that Baby Squid. I also wonder looking at the Mural and knowing nothing about the movie apart from the Urns in this movie. That the Mural shows Derelict again that some how creates Eggs from those Urns or there contents, or Fires the contents of the Urns that then create Eggs.

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@nlpg... And then we got this thread that we've been discussing today ... a few hours before this post ... with similar findings ;) ... [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3456]iSperm[/url] @Bug ... Damn I love the new layout for posts recent posts & Search ... nice one ...

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Oh offcourse if the above is the case... Then indeed the Xeno is created by the Jockey and maybe thats whats shown at the end of the movie. Which means what ever is happening to Shaw and the Crew is something not related to the Xeno and thus could form the basis of a new Franchise/Monster. But then what keeps comming back to me is how they said the movie is "where Mommy meets Daddy" Which means somehow maybe Shaw is connected with the creation of the Xeno, and thus the Derelict does not create Eggs.

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@nlpg, I liked your post. I read some of the other discussions and you have some original and good ideas that had not been discussed yet. I have had that very painting as my desktop for a couple of months now, and I had missed the worm in the eye. That pretty much seals the deal, as far as the life cycle goes, and he stays true to Giger's original idea. I still don't think RS ever meant for the Alien creature to considered a bug or to reproduce like an insect. Great post.

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April 16, 2012

Awesome interpretation of the alien life cycle. I might be nuts(I know I am), but if you look on the 3rd level of the life cycle mural, all the way to the left. Does this not resemble the creature on the mural image inside of the temple? [img]http://cdn.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/66.jpg[/img]

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April 16, 2012

This has all been discussed already here: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3456 As I said a FEW DAYS AGO in my post, if you look closely at the mural of the humanoid, and the Giger drawing from 1978, the hieroglyphics in the top left of the Giger drawing, the bottom two lines, are the same as those on the left of the humanoid figure. My post above has all of this discussed at length.