Space Jockey Size

LOL I hope you all do not hate me but I think I just found a source of inspiration for Ridley for the new design of the Space Jockey Suit

There is a slight angle on the picture of the new SJ, also the arms may be pointing outwards instead of down towards the handle? to make it appear smaller in this view then the Original SJ

@dutch1585 - Thats what it looks like to me too.

No. Even at a low angle, the view wouldn't affect the proportion perception of the SJ in relation to the proportions of the seat. On the original big one, looking at it from a low eyeline, the top of the head would still align with the backrest. I'm for the 'suits you sir' camp. This is probably a small upstart, i.e. a person with lofty aspirations.

Guys i aleady worked out in a rough guess the size of the chair. I used the crew in Alien as a gauge i then worked out the Chair size to be 16ft ish Then if thats 16ft i worked out the other parts of the chairs size... This then gave me a rough estimate that the Jockey in Alien was about 12ft tall. (or upto 13ft). Saying the Chair was the same dimentions in Prometheus then that Jockey in the suit is....... about 9ft tall or just over. Yes the Arms look different but it depends on the angle of that shot maybe? The Blue Guy when he is walking to the Chair is larger than the Orginal Alien crew compared to the one in Alien. You see a scene with David and the Jockey in the back ground and the Jockey is like at least 50% bigger than David. Now the Humans Space Helmets are like double the size of their heads, so why cant the Jockeys be like 50% to double that of the Blue Guy? This would explain why the Jockey Head on the Med Table is like 3X that of a Human head.

We have to look at the optical illusion posibility.... The Jockey seems more slumped back on the Chair in Alien. You could take a photo of my upper torso while i lay on a reclining Chair, i could lie with my head right near the very back in one shot and then slouch down in another and it would give the illusion that i was smaller in height in one shot. Things that dont add up to me and cant be explained are the distance of the one part of the chair, in Alien the Jockeys hands are in this part. In Promethus the Jockeys hands are further away. The Jockey in Alien seems to have longer Arms and Ripcage/Torso. But if you look at the Jockeys from the chest up and compared parts of the Chair to the Jockeys. Those parts are simular size compared to the Jockeys. Again who knows... maybe David becomes the Jockey, that would explain the scene with Shaw, maybe he grows and thus when he gets into the chair he has grown from say 6ft to 9ft and by the time the Derelict lands on LV426 he has once again grown to about 12ft. Who knows....

@AlsoKnownAsNate If you look at those Suits in that image... Now look at a Human, their arms come down to the same area. The Blue Guys also look long..... when he is walking etc. But in the chair it seems like the Blue Guy/Jockeys arms have gone all Midget size in proportions. Again it could be the angles... If you take a photo from distance of you with hands straight by your side they will apear really longe. If you take another but bend your elbows in a bit but keep arms at same position your arms would look smaller. I am going for the guy being the Blue Guy, the Blue Guy = Space Jockey but the movie would rather us call them Engineers. How does that explain Alien one... depends on this movie and if its the same Derelict that lands on LV426 i guess we will find out at the end of the movie. There are other missmatches, the Ships look a little different especially inside, this is because Ridley wanted to give the Jockeys a more Mechanical look than the Organic Look of Alien. It does not mean they are not the same, just that Ridley has redesigned/re imagined them. Like how the BSG Cylons and Fighter look different from BSG 80's to BSG 21st Century. Only Ridley has gone for more suptle changes. The only big questions and flaws in Jockey and Derelict for me are.. 1) Where are the 4 sarcophagus 2) How come the Arms Still look very long by that i mean proportions from Elbow to Forearm. ------EDIT----- Just looked again and as i gave in the anolgy of laying down with Arms Straight by side and then when you have arms bent.. You can see the Jockey Shot in Prometheus is as such, messure his arm from elbow to hand, then do a proportion size to shoulder to elbow. Now take same mesurements of Blueguy in Walking Scene the Blueguys upper arm proportion is longer than in that Chair scene. Reason because his Arm is bent and so his upper Arm is facing more towards camera as opposed to being directly flat towards it like his forearm is.

Nobody listens to logic on here, I swear....

Guys...the two jockeys look different because they are different. Whether or not the new Jockey is intended to be the same one we saw in Alien is irrelevant. If its not the same one, well then the size change is easily explained. If it is the same one that just means Ridley and the designers took artistic license to change it. Just like the changed the chair itself. I really think its the latter, but the point is I think the jockey size, in particular, is one of those things that we shouldn't be too concerned or focused on (IMHO). Just like the subtle texture and size changes on the derelict, derelict interior walls, etc. Just go with it for now.

@tokyoid The jury is still out concerning the creature that is standing over Shaw on the Prometheus. I created a post about this a week or so ago and it was debated furiously. While the pattern on the legs is similar to that of the larger creature that activates the chair, the creature over Shaw is definitely human sized. There is no arguing that. Her leg is in between the legs of that creature and the lower legs are almost the same size when you consider the fact that Shaw's is not up and down. There are a lot of theories about this. Read the old post.

And I love the way everyone just assumes it's a suit and that this SJ couldn't be a young one with the larger one being saved so that it's a shock when we see it in the theater. I used to really enjoy posting in here. Now we just rehash the same things over and over and over and over and over....

@cursum_perficio I think you might be right. The SJs could be worm-like parasites that use the suits to move about in, not unlike the Goa'uld in Stargate.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_organisms]List of largest organisms[/url]We've recently learned that the SJ temple has 25-foot doorways. So check this out. The standard height of a residential doorway in the United States is 6'8" (2.03 m). I'm tall, at 6'6" (1.98 m), so I nearly bump my head on the average doorway. Now, the average height of a male in the United States is 5'9" (1.76 m). So for the average American male, there's 11" (.28 m) between the top of their head and the doorway. In other words, the average American male is 13.75% shorter than the height of the average doorway. Given a 25-foot doorway and assuming our friendly, neighborhood Space Jockeys (suited up) also average 13.75% shorter than their 25-foot doorways, we're dealing with 21'9" (6.63 m) Jockeys (in suits). Just some comparison via simple math here, so don't crucify me. It's very possible the SJs fancy vaulted ceilings. Who knows what we'll see in the movie. But could you imagine coming face-to-face with a suited-up SJ that's almost 4 times taller than you? The only living land animals comparable in size are elephants and abnormally tall giraffes.

Compare Jar-Jar Binks to Boss Nass.....Same species, Gungan.....Just a different look. As far as the original SJ is concerned, some of his proportions could be exaggerated due to weathering the elements of being in a crashed ship for who knows how long (i.e. look what happens to a bloated dead-body fished out of a river....hardly recognizable as what the person really looked like). Personally, I just feel that Ridley is exercising some artistic license and re-inventing the SJ and I don't think he is unaware of the discussion/controversy that he is causing by changing certain sizes/proportions. I also think all will be explained within the movie and we are simply being teased by these very fast SJ shots.

@abordoli, I agree about RS. Personally, he can take whatever artistic license he wants with the SJ. Doesn't bother me one bit, and doesn't detract from the awesomeness of Alien. These are two films where, frankly, continuity doesn't matter to me.

If the very large size (Alien) SJ is just "forgotten" about, than I think that stinks big time. Whatever happened to consistency?

In the first Alien someone makes a comment about the Space Jockey how it "looks like it has grown out of the chair". So maybe this little tyke just has some growing up to do. This is kind of a lame comparison, but it is common practice for moms to buy their kids clothes that fit to big so they can grow into them (and thus lasting longer). Here is link to youtube clip of Alien Space Jockey Scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TZlVQZFjvE