Am I The Only One Who Hopes The Xenomorph Doesn't End Up Becoming Such A Simple
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aka Nate
MemberOvomorphApr-20-2012 9:33 PM....because I think the 'weapon origin' idea wreaks of fan boy creativity and even less of originality....
....also, can we stop stating this idea as fact? ...the newbies and laments are starting to think this is true....and of course it's not only too easy of a direction to take, BUT also not very interesting, in my humble opinion, anyways....
I welcome original "outside the box" ideas....
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:33 PMit's incidental to the fact that my point is the Xenomorph is a wonderously beautiful creation and a joy of creativity and originality, it has a life all it's own EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT IN FACT EXIST IN THIS WORLD and I am more than happy to admit that we do not know for a fact that what GIGER had in Mind when he painted it was in fact a WEAPON, or do we? I think that kind of thinking is right up GIGERs alley and it may have been EXACTLY what he PROBABLY WAS thinking...a BIO-MECHANICAL INTER-STELLAR SEXUALlY DEVIANT TERRA-FORMING WEAPON.

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rakshasa
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:40 PMSpartacus,
I don't think we can rely on Alien Vault or other sources that related to how Scott imagined Alien over thirty years ago. Prometheus is not to Alien what the Hobbit is to the Lord of the Rings. It is normal to presume that the concept of Prometheus is the result of an entire new team. It has no sense to rely on spontanous declarations that Scott made when a Prometheus project didn't exist.
And for those who insist on the weapon idea, why didn't they do a weapon that is smaller, more simple, cost-effective, less dangerous, intrusive and detectable to its creators? Like a deadly virus?
The movie is about the origins of life, not the origins of means of destroying life!

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:41 PMI am not relying on "alien vault" the truth is what it is. Whatever man.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:42 PMAND AGAIN THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THE SPACE JOCKEY...PERIOD !

CanadaPhil
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:46 PMThe Xeno's would have a strange time with BLUE WHALES (on the large hand)...and chipmunks (on the small hand)... or the millions of Wildebeest roaming the African plains.
And a terraformer??.. I cant quite see how something 2 ft. taller than the average size man can possibly terraform a flipping PLANET. Even, if they had the most potent acidy flatulance imaginable, it would have to take eons!!.. Nope... I dont buy it.
If they were conceived as a weapon, then one could only logically conclude that they were a weapon that was specifically targeted towards a HOMINID species ONLY... or more specifically... HUMANS.
And I think that concept (bio-weapon) is something Scott just came up at the top of his head to differentiate himself from the crap of the '90's when many began to ask him what he would have done with the Alien "sequels".
But hey, if some of diehards NEED the answer to be a "Bio-Weapon" to help you sleep at night then fine.... PETER WEYLAND DID IT!! Just because he could! OK, thats a good enough answer for me.
I mean, we all now know that the crazy b-stard is THERE!... So what is he doing there!? Up to no good me thinks.

aka Nate
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:55 PM@dallas!dallas! ..... Now you're feeling my frustration with this numb nuts...... It's like debating with a chihuaha..... He flip flops on issues more than Romney.... Good luck, sir

rakshasa
MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:55 PM“… I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original ‘Alien’. It’s fairly pure. And ['Prometheus'] does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one [ie. the 'Alien' xenomorph] – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first 'Alien'] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that [Space Jockey] suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?”
We shouldn't interpet ad literam this passage. As i see it, Scott tries to proove how the ship in Alien can trigger new questions. He mentions his guess that xenos are weapons only to depict how, in his case, questions about the SJs appeared in his mind and why the movie Prometheus is justified. And the style in which he communicates these ideas is slightly incoherent, which makes me believe these are spontaneous, improvised ideas and not a script.

aka Nate
MemberOvomorphApr-22-2012 2:09 PM@raksasha...... Very well said in that second paragraph.... And I concur
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