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Am I The Only One Who Hopes The Xenomorph Doesn't End Up Becoming Such A Simple

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aka Nate

MemberOvomorphApr-20-2012 9:33 PM
....because I think the 'weapon origin' idea wreaks of fan boy creativity and even less of originality.... ....also, can we stop stating this idea as fact? ...the newbies and laments are starting to think this is true....and of course it's not only too easy of a direction to take, BUT also not very interesting, in my humble opinion, anyways.... I welcome original "outside the box" ideas....
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belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:10 PM
@ takka well us humans cant stop spreading diseases so maybe they need to ship us as weapons to planets and we can cough on all the life forms.
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Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:33 PM
it's incidental to the fact that my point is the Xenomorph is a wonderously beautiful creation and a joy of creativity and originality, it has a life all it's own EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT IN FACT EXIST IN THIS WORLD and I am more than happy to admit that we do not know for a fact that what GIGER had in Mind when he painted it was in fact a WEAPON, or do we? I think that kind of thinking is right up GIGERs alley and it may have been EXACTLY what he PROBABLY WAS thinking...a BIO-MECHANICAL INTER-STELLAR SEXUALlY DEVIANT TERRA-FORMING WEAPON.

Guest

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:30 PM
Personally, I think the weapon concept solves a lot of problems with them being a naturally evolved species. Through out their life cycle, they seem best adapted to prey on us. The facehugger is the perfect size for a human head, and it doesn't kill us in the process of embryo implementation. In its adult form, It's the largest size that a bipedal lifeform could be and still be able to move effortlessly throughout our structures. It can go everywhere we can go and can out run us. How many predators do you know on earth that are that well adapted to hunt us? And, I don't buy into the whole DNA sharing nonsense from later in the franchise. Pose yourself a thought problem. Try to imagine a world where this species develops naturally where its population is kept in perfect balance. Then, try to imagine what kind of animal could and would prey on this one. At the same time, try to imagine what kind of animal would be essential to its reproduction that it's predator wouldn't also eat into extinction. It's a much more difficult problem than imagining weapon. As planet sterilization weapon, it makes a lot of sense. But, it's not a general weapon. It's a specific weapons that is designed to remove one species, us, and leave the rest of the biome intact and ready to be exploited. Because it would be so specifically adapted to eat us, it's creator wouldn't even be on the menu. So, it represents no threat to them.

belladonna

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:39 PM
cant they just make the adriods sexually deviant? ill take some of those and splurge for the next day air shipping ^_^
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rakshasa

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:40 PM
Spartacus, I don't think we can rely on Alien Vault or other sources that related to how Scott imagined Alien over thirty years ago. Prometheus is not to Alien what the Hobbit is to the Lord of the Rings. It is normal to presume that the concept of Prometheus is the result of an entire new team. It has no sense to rely on spontanous declarations that Scott made when a Prometheus project didn't exist. And for those who insist on the weapon idea, why didn't they do a weapon that is smaller, more simple, cost-effective, less dangerous, intrusive and detectable to its creators? Like a deadly virus? The movie is about the origins of life, not the origins of means of destroying life!

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:41 PM
I am not relying on "alien vault" the truth is what it is. Whatever man.

Spartacus

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:42 PM
AND AGAIN THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THE SPACE JOCKEY...PERIOD !

CanadaPhil

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:46 PM
The Xeno's would have a strange time with BLUE WHALES (on the large hand)...and chipmunks (on the small hand)... or the millions of Wildebeest roaming the African plains. And a terraformer??.. I cant quite see how something 2 ft. taller than the average size man can possibly terraform a flipping PLANET. Even, if they had the most potent acidy flatulance imaginable, it would have to take eons!!.. Nope... I dont buy it. If they were conceived as a weapon, then one could only logically conclude that they were a weapon that was specifically targeted towards a HOMINID species ONLY... or more specifically... HUMANS. And I think that concept (bio-weapon) is something Scott just came up at the top of his head to differentiate himself from the crap of the '90's when many began to ask him what he would have done with the Alien "sequels". But hey, if some of diehards NEED the answer to be a "Bio-Weapon" to help you sleep at night then fine.... PETER WEYLAND DID IT!! Just because he could! OK, thats a good enough answer for me. I mean, we all now know that the crazy b-stard is THERE!... So what is he doing there!? Up to no good me thinks.

aka Nate

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:55 PM
@dallas!dallas! ..... Now you're feeling my frustration with this numb nuts...... It's like debating with a chihuaha..... He flip flops on issues more than Romney.... Good luck, sir

rakshasa

MemberOvomorphApr-21-2012 6:55 PM
“… I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original ‘Alien’. It’s fairly pure. And ['Prometheus'] does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one [ie. the 'Alien' xenomorph] – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first 'Alien'] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that [Space Jockey] suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?” We shouldn't interpet ad literam this passage. As i see it, Scott tries to proove how the ship in Alien can trigger new questions. He mentions his guess that xenos are weapons only to depict how, in his case, questions about the SJs appeared in his mind and why the movie Prometheus is justified. And the style in which he communicates these ideas is slightly incoherent, which makes me believe these are spontaneous, improvised ideas and not a script.

aka Nate

MemberOvomorphApr-22-2012 2:09 PM
@raksasha...... Very well said in that second paragraph.... And I concur
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