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Aliens - Another Conspiracy

Gavin

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Okay, heres the deal... I think that Weyland-Yutani knew full well what was going on at Hadley's Hope in 2179, hoping Ripley would fall foul to the Xenomorphs, and the Colonial Marines and Carter Burke would successfully obtain a specimen, or two of the creature. With another ship prepared for departure once they had confirmation (same vessel in Alien 3). Heres why... 2122 - At the end of Alien Ripley broadcast the "Last survivor of the Nostromo" recording. 2159 - Hadleys Hope Colony is established on LV-426 2179 - Contact with Hadleys Hope is lost, travelling from Earths Gateway Station the USS Sulaco arrives there 17 days later. 2179 - Ripley is sole survivor of the ejected EEV on Fiorina 161. Weyland-Yutani vessel despatched with 7 day flight time, upon receipt of Ripleys chest scan they hasten, arriving within 24 hours. 2179 - Ripleys Nostromo recording reaches Fiorina 161. Wait for it... Hadleys Hope colony on LV-426 was fitted with CCTV cameras (remember scene where Burke turns off the monitor). Thus I believe the Company recieved the footage from these cameras, probably encrypted, and once the colony had been overrun they sent in the Marines, having already seen the Aliens infest the colony. Remember, when the marines arrived the colony still had power, and thus would have still been broadcasting. This would explain... 1. How the Company knew of the existence of the Queen Alien in Alien 3. 2. Why the WY vessel was ready at a moments notice to "rescue" Ripley. 3. How they knew that Ripley had warmed to Bishop, despite her history with Ash.

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Complete brain lock
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@snorklebottom Sorry mate I still need a bit of convincing. You are right that the company knew something about the alien. The company clearly new about the derelict which is why they redirected the Nostromo and replaced Ash as the science officer at the last moment. Ash before he is turned off says the company had decoded the signal and were aware it was a warning. He also says the SJs were a noble race and picked up the eggs by accident. In the book it never mentioned the SJ was fossilized but it does say the warning had been playing for centuries. LV426 is around 40 light years away and Prometheus is set 30 years before. Therefor the SJ warning signal wont reach Earth for another 10 years. For me there is no point in try to connect the derelict to Prometheus because the time frames do not match up no matter how you try and fudge it. If the company had the exact location of the derelict they could have sent anyone there at any time. Would it really be feasible that they are so desperate to get their hands on a xeno that they wait 57 years to do it? No. I believe it was Dallas who took the SJ warning signal with him so they probably searched but were unable to find the derelict and in the process found LV426 and thought it would be worth terraforming. The whole point of the company is they want a xeno to study. LV426 has around 150 of them running around laying eggs and terraforming the colony with their own unique black goo secretions. Surely that would be way more interesting than having a specimen in a lab.
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@ TNLV426 - Ash was the only member of the crew who had any knowledge of what was really going on. Dallas was just following company legislation. Remember - Special Order 937 was Science Officers Eyes Only, and Ash replaced the Nostromo's Science Officer at Thedus, just before the mission. The Signal was clearly being transmitted by the Derelict, they used it to triangulate the source and thus discovered the Derelict. Also the signal would have most likely have been picked up by another vessel travelling nearby and when W-Y listens to a recording they probably realise it is from the same species encountered in Prometheus. The terraforming of LV-426 was a cover for their real agenda. At some point between 2122 and 2179 the Derelict must have stopped transmitting, therefore a colony was established in the hope of discovering the Derelict and its cargo. If a bunch of tugboat operators, one of their own and a team of colonial marines are considered expendable, then so too would be over 70 families of civilians. Ash mentions nothing about the SJ's or the eggs in the film, and the book cannot be used as a source because it is an adaptation of unfinished product, as is any novelisation of a movie.

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@snorklebottom you're up early, I thought you were in the US. I guess ultimately neither of us are wrong, we are both back-filling a story to suite out our needs and understanding. I'm sure when Alien was made there was no thoughts on a prequel so for the next 50 days we have free reign over how the story will begin. What matters I guess is what road RS has taken.
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I am in the UK, its 4.30 here. IMO another film within the Alien franchise needs to be made set directly after Alien 3, but showing events (possibly in flashback) that affect and are related to the first 3 films while at the same time setting up the events of resurrection, and opening the way for more films. in fact I am actually collating such a synopsis.

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Snorkler, You better use my tie-in from January. Rick

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I've slept since then Rick, you'll have to gimme a reminder.

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[b]BOOYAAAAH I GOT IT MEN !!![/b] When Bishop was preparing to crawl down the service tunnel to pilot the dropship down, he told Ripley that it would take (in total) approx 3 hours. Earlier in the movie, it was established that the place was going to blow up in approx 4 hours. This left Bishop an extra hour during which he could have: fetched 2 eggs and hidden them. While Ripley was rescuing Newt, Bishop could've then returned to pick up the eggs and put them in the drop ship. He'd then fly back to pick up Ripley and give some bogus story to cover up why he was late.
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You are all approaching this from the wrong angle. The question you should ask is what was the purpose of creating the colony ? The suggestion was made throughout Aliens, that Burke was given the information about Ripley, he investigated it, found out about the creature and sent the colonists to find the ship, so that HE and no one else in the company could make millions. So I think that blows the entire lets build a colony and make them hosts for the aliens theory out of the water. My thought is that the Nostromo lands on LV-426, Ash does his scientific analysis of the planet, they find some mineral or minerals that they could mine, and on the way back to Earth, Ash transmits that information. The company picks it up and decides they could build a mining colony there.
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There's one hole in that theory of how they knew about the Queen in Alien 3 Snork, that is to say there was a communication from the Company saying that they received the EEV Medscan data. Thats how they knew she had it in her............. Or are you saying that they knew of the Queen variety of Alien from the cameras? Not the fact that Ripley had one in her?
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What I am am saying Cypher is that because of the CCTV cameras throughout Hadley's Hope W-Y would have seen the Xenomorph infestation take place and therefore will have undoubtabley caught footage of the Queen. Therefore, when they recieved Ripleys medscan data from the EEV, they would have compared it to the medscan data from the Nostromo and realised that Ripley was incubating a Queen Embryo, thus ordering the W-Y vessel assigned to pick up Ripley to hasten its journey, their prize in reach.

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I believe that 57 years previously the Company sent Nostromo on a covert mission to locate the alien. But, when she never turns up, the execs get nervous as they've lost an expensive ship and crew for nothing. So, they purge the files, and shred everything, quietly forgetting the matter. When Ripley is recovered, anyone with any knowledge of the Nostromo mission is long-gone, and everyone thinks she's lying to cover her own incompetence, or crazy. Ironically, Burke seems to have spent the most time with her, and has a gut feeling that she's telling the truth. Seeing dollar signs, he decides on his own initiative to get the colony to send an expedition. The colony is then overwhelmed, and sometime during this the transmitter is damaged. As the USCM have no idea of the threat, this must have happened before any distress call was sent. The Company could not have known the full details at this time, as Alien 3 shows they have their own ships and military, so would not need the USCM.

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