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centrosphere
MemberOvomorphMay-03-2012 3:36 PMSorry if I´m repeating an older topic but...
What I find weird about LV-223 is that albeit hostile, that world lacks any kind of orbital defense ring (or something like it). It seems defenseless.
If Prometheus was a military ship, it could destroy the entire place "from orbit".
What again makes me think that this world isn´t a "base" for some alien species. Also, it is so barren that doens´t seem to be the homeworld of any civilization. We don´t see any kind of lifeform over the soil. It´s a primordial world.
Of course, the "defenseless" appearence would be in accordance with what one should expect of...a trap.
However, I really think the story will be very different from these options and will spin in a different ant unantecipated direction. What you think?
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centrosphere
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 5:15 AM@TexasDeathTip,
"[i]If I'm not mistaken don't most 'rings' or Perimeter Defenses need the use of personnel or armed sentries to be effective?[/i] "
You´re right; this is the very reason I think LV-223 isn´t a base or outpost.
@Forever War,
"[i]Somewhere in this film is the result of filming large scale water sequences done in Spain[/i]."
I didn´t know but...are you sure? This information doesn´t appear at the leaked credits of the movie...there is a "Iceland Unit", but not a "Spain Unit"...
Personally I think that we will not see a second human ship in the movie. I have some reasons, see:
This is the original "contrail" scene, with snow in the mountains:
[img]http://greglouden.net/reel_contrails.png[/img]
Here, you see Prometheus producing the contrail:
[img]http://greglouden.net/contrail2.png[/img]
Also, if you examine closely some of the scenes in the "temple complex valley", you will see that there snow in the mountains, also:
[img]http://www.projectprometheus.com/assets/2/245409.jpg[/img]
Of course in the end you could be right; we simply don´t know much about the movie, actually. But these are my hints.

TexasDeathTrip
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 10:36 AM"@TexasDeathTip,
"If I'm not mistaken don't most 'rings' or Perimeter Defenses need the use of personnel or armed sentries to be effective? "
You´re right; this is the very reason I think LV-223 isn´t a base or outpost."
Well that's the thing . . I think it IS an outpost. An outpost devoid of defenders because they're either dead, or have fled for their lives, or both. Whether it was abandoned, or the SJ's/Engineers were overrun by whatever they were tinkering with, or a combination of the 2. That would leave the outpost left alone for possibly thousands of years without the necessary personnel to repel borders.
One of the interviews with RS referred to a "survivor" they find there. We've seen the stills of the dead SJ's which would indicate that they fell victim to their own creations (or collected organisms). Or possibly even experimented on each other. For whatever reason there is a mean son of a b!#(# remaining.
It's also probable that we're going to come away with more questions than answers, especially since they seem to be setting up a sequel. . . . Cliffhanger Ending?

THE M O N O L I T H
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 11:56 AM
I must have read here quite a few times but why do you all keep coming up will LV-223? Unless you are refeering to one-or-moe of the ringed planetary system I was under the impression that the small planetoid both the Nostromo and the Sulaco went into orbit over was called LV-426. Ripley say's so to the board of inquiry, unless she is refeering to the gas giant as Polyphenus is to Pandora so LV-426 is to the smaller planetoid so in the regard, I could be wrong on that one though I think I am instinctively correct on this one and that you are all pronouncing the name wrong for the planetary systems own officila Terran designation. But if there is evidenced information that points to the contrary I would like to read-up on that to see where exactly I may have missed that one...
Keep me posted if you can but I do think the correct terminology is LV-426 for the small planetoid that all three expiditions vist succesively...

THE M O N O L I T H
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 11:57 AM
I must have read here quite a few times but why do you all keep coming up will LV-223? Unless you are refeering to one-or-moe of the ringed planetary system I was under the impression that the small planetoid both the Nostromo and the Sulaco went into orbit over was called LV-426. Ripley say's so to the board of inquiry, unless she is refeering to the gas giant as Polyphenus is to Pandora so LV-426 is to the smaller planetoid so in the regard, I could be wrong on that one though I think I am instinctively correct on this one and that you are all pronouncing the name wrong for the planetary systems own officila Terran designation. But if there is evidenced information that points to the contrary I would like to read-up on that to see where exactly I may have missed that one...
Keep me posted if you can but I do think the correct terminology is LV-426 for the small planetoid that all three expiditions vist succesively...

HAL 9000
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 12:03 PMOk, who goes first? I just can't...anymore. I mean, really.

HAL 9000
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 12:16 PM...it's like the ghost driver going: "Oh man, so many ghost drivers!?"

centrosphere
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 2:36 PMHAL9000,
It was [url=http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2012/04/prometheus-footage-screening-and-qa-report/]long established[/url] that the action in Prometheus happens on LV-223. It´s probably a moon of the big planet.
This is a literal transcription of the dialogue of a scene, from the 15 minutes lenght footage shown some weeks ago:
“The constellation shown in the pictograms was so far away that the there is no way the civilisations that appear to have made them could have known about it, but we do. We know it has a sun, and we know it has an Earth-like planet. And this is where we are now.”
And, they say, it is LV-223 - probably on the same star system than LV-426.

HAL 9000
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 2:46 PM@centrosphere: Ha-ha! I KNOW that. My comments were directed @THE M O N O L I T H, thought that was pretty obvious. JP...please say something or my systems will shut down! ;-)

Mungo
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 4:46 PM[url=http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1316814/prometheus_preview_footage_screening_and_qa_our_reaction.html]I read it here[/url]
Paragraph 12ish.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 5:08 PMNOW I ASK YOU...I KNOW I HAD TO BE A BIT OF A BLUE MEANIE TO GET THE VERY BEST OUT OF EVERY ONE OF YOU, BUT YOU TELL ME WHICH POST IS BETTER NOW, THE FIRST ONE YOU ALL ,MADE, OR THE 2ND ONE...? I SAY THIS BECAUSE IMO EVERY ONE OF YOUR COMEBACKS WAS FREAKING AWESOME !!!
THANK YOU ALL FOR INDULGING ME, IT IS SO VERY COOL TO ME TO KNOW I HAVE THE POWER TO BRING OUT THE BEST IN ALL OF YOU.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-04-2012 5:11 PM@ CENTROSPHERE
I READ THIS... "orbital defense ring" and immediately assumed you meant regular planetary DEFENSES... I still say that question hasn't really been properly answered and by the way any "out post" I have ever seen or heard of in Science Fiction in the past 50 years had some serious defensive systems capabilities.

centrosphere
MemberOvomorphMay-05-2012 6:24 AM@Spartacus,
Not sure if I correctly follow your reasoning, but...
We know from the trailer that Prometheus try to stop the "croissant" to go wherever it plans to go (putatively, Earth). It does it by SMASHING ITSELF onto the Engineer´s ship.
This means that neither the temple complex, nor the croissant itself, have any defensive systems. Or at least they seems curiously unable to activate them.
My take here is that there is something weird about an outpost unable to defend itself, and this says something about the plot. The thing is, I humbly feel unable to make a good bet on what´s the secret here, and expect this will lead to a interesting twist in the plot. 34 days to go!
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