Advanced screening reaction tweets - discussion w/ only links to **SPOILERS**
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iapetus
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 10:28 AMHi everyone,
have been lurking around for about a week, only creating my first thread on here now, so please be nice.
I was surprised no one has yet posted a linked to that yet. A thread on another forum shows tweets from someone who appears to have been participating in an advanced screening **[url=http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/825/advance-prometheus-screening-reaction-spoilers/p1]here[/url]**
Seems it could be relatively trustworthy as they've tried to trick-check if it was a hoax by a fanboy but it appears to be a 25yo indian girl living in the UK who's genuinely not really into scifi.
May be worth checking as it seems there's potentially more to come.
Most things only confirm stuff that has already been strongly suggested before, but other elements are potentially major revelations, in particular about the SJ plans.
Apart from that, I am also working on translating major points of the special issue of the French journal 'L'écran Fantastique' (of which tiny scans were posted some times ago) to post on here. I'm only including excerpts with potential revelation/confirmation value but it's all pages & pages long. I'll certainly need another few days and will prob post it in several threads with a common title element + Scott interview / Lindelof / etc...
Tell me what you guys think is best, otherwise. **potential spoilers** it brings no major über-revelations but yields a fair load of info and elements that together point and confirm important plot issues, like Vickers almost assuredly being Weyland's daughter etc...
Cheers
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azalard
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 4:20 PMHere are my feelings about unofficial plot leaks like this: they're almost always fictional. Unless they're posted on a reputable website, even one like Wikipedia, then in my opinion they should be disregarded. I remember people doing the same thing before the release of Star Wars: Episode II. When Episode II finally came out, it was very different from all of the scattered rumors over the internet (e.g. like the supposed fight between Obi Wan and Darth Sidious that never materialized b/c it was a false rumor).
Anyhow, I followed the "spoiler" link, and I recognized the name: Viscal. He's appeared on several Prometheus blogs all over the internet saying the same thing. I read the "tweeted" conversation, and honestly, it was hard to follow, and it really didn't tell me much of anything at all. To me, a major spoiler would be three or four paragraphs describing the plot in detail. The ones provided in this link were just incoherent ramblings. Sure, there were some minor details revealed, but nothing really substantial.
Here's the deal. I find it odd that when someone gets online who has supposedly "seen" an advanced screening of the film, they're always hesitant about sharing any of the goods, as if they've been threatened by the mob. The person in this particular tweet seemed reluctant about sharing any spoilers, which is always a red flag in my estimation. For instance, there was one guy on IMDB who said that he had seen the movie, but when asked to provide details, he didn't want to say anything at all. So why even post in the first place? To me, that's like dangling crack in front of an addict.
I am not trying to be rude, and I am certainly not trying to attack the topic creator. I realize he is simply regurgitating what he has heard and seen on the web. We're all guilty of that, and I am definitely the chief of all sinners when it comes to repeating spoilers, whether true or false. However, if I had truly seen the film, then I would tell people all about it, and hold back nothing. However, I have seen nothing on the internet - not one single blog - where a person has claimed to have seen the movie and has given a point by point rundown of the film. This leads me to believe that there have been no advanced screenings, and if there have, then those people aren't wasting their time talking about it on the internet.
-Thomas

iapetus
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 5:36 PM-Frantz.
As for the references, here's the link to the thread that talked about the special issue of the French magazine 'L'écran fantastique' : *[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/181]thread[/url]*
It's how I learned about it and went to buy it the other day, and that's where I'm getting the infos I'm citing. The scans in the thread I linked are poor and images tiny so you can't see much. It's full of interviews of Scott, Lindelof, main actors and head of each main technical/artistic dept (cgi and non-cgi special effects, set artists, concept artists). So none of them blows the whole secret but almost each lets out some elements that altogether are very useful.
As I said, I have started working on translating crucial parts but the whole thing is ~60p AND I don't have it with me now, I had to pick my parents at the airport and left it at their place the other day...
for others, warning for
***spoilers***
About the 'Dawn of time' scene with the Sacrifice Engineer, I don't have specific url to link you to, really. It has been mentioned in multiple threads about the trailers around here. It's the huge waterfall scene in which a guy in a cloak/cape walks on the edge, on the left of the screen. From memory, Scott acknowledged it was one of the last scene shot. Was done in Iceland in a short time and he himself called it the 'Dawn of time' scene and said it was to appear, as the opening to the movie if I recall properly. Not sure whether or not he himself stated the guy is the 'sacrifice engineer' but other elements point toward that. You'll easily find more stuff about that
Pro-tip for people: use the google 'site' function to search a word over a specific site if the forum's search function gives you nothing relevant... for example:
site:http://www.prometheus-movie.com sacrifice engineer
->this will bring every page of this site that contains those words anywhere, not only in the title
cheers

abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 5:52 PMThis is not the first thread here about this twit on twitter. The first thread was created by "viscal"s alter-ego here on THIS site to generate traffic to his site. I was also there when the tweets were coming in and the other site's members were pondering over it. I, personally, lost interest real fast for it is obvious that the twitter is a twit. Mega-Spoliers, we leave for the OTHER site. This site, the one officially linked to by Fox, prefers to keep our distance. This thread will soon be buried into antiquity. Sorry....
It is also turning into a bickering contest which is "off-topic". Please discuss the topic and bypass the petty arguments.

Chris
AdminEngineerMay-07-2012 6:19 PMThomas is right. No other reputable site or organization has made any boasting point of saying that they've seen an early screening of Prometheus. I researched the lady in question and from what I could find, she is not connected in any way to any sites/organizations which would be in this field.
Again, it does come across as fishy that the conversation would include only her and Viscal... I won't assume that it was staged, but you never know. With the internet, anyone can be anybody and nobody.
My gut feeling - it's fake. Very, very fake. Plus, not to mention, FOX has yet to intervene and they have people monitoring sites like this, facebook and twitter daily to ensure nothing gets leaked.. so... yeah.

Svanya
AdminPraetorianMay-07-2012 6:23 PMI don't think it's real either, her descriptions are too vague and she herself is too random a find. I mean IF she was a fan then maybe she would go to that site and spill her guts but she says she doesn't like Sci-fi, and they magically discover her?? No, it's bull$hit. She probably reads our forum, and got her ideas from here. I'm not even joking on that one.

iapetus
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 6:48 PMOk guys, again you're the ones pushing me to advocate for her more than I naturally would, just because most your arguments do not hold.
I don't see how 'no reputable organisation has posted about seeing the movie' is an argument. On the contrary, I personally doubt Fox would pre-screen it for die-hard fans like people here, than would without a doubt post the whole thing the minute they're out, if not sneak a camera in. On that, I might just be gullible enough to believe it happens that studios screen movies to random people (or she was just lucky enough to get in a group of 'slightly less than random' chosen people) for marketing or other reasons they have and I have abs no clue about.
Then again, she didn't go to 'that site' or massively looked for attention. She tweeted something along 'I have seen the new Alien movie!' (which is a bit of attention seeking, but who wouldn't do that?) and it was picked up by people who *themselves* were looking for clues. I think her tweet timeline has prob been checked by dozens of people since then.
Sure, she could be paid by Fox to buzz / mislead us, she could be associated with Viscal to troll us, she may be secretely in love with sci-fi or Ridley Scott's daughter.
Seriously, I am positive it can be plain fake. Anyhow, this plot doesn't conflict my initial theory and on the contrary adds major support to some of its elements. Legit advance screening or buzzed-theory, I'm satisfied with it either ways.

shambs
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 7:23 PMEven as "The great thing with tentacles to impregnate" I think I remember I read something similar in a fake scipt.
And the rest is part of what we've all seen in the trailers and speculations that have been done about it. (did not reveal anything new or that the rest of us do not know)

azalard
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 7:37 PMSome of those fake scripts that had been circulating the web were actually very interesting to read.

B1-66ER
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 8:12 PMYou're all just trying to trick yourselves into being surprised on opening day now that you've read the spoiler and ruined it.

DETfaninATL
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 8:26 PM***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***
If anyone's interested, Guillermo Del Toro is apparently coming to grips with the fact that his film version of H.P. Lovecraft's 'At The Mountains Of Madness' may never come to pass. Why? Because PROMETHEUS is "Same premise. Scenes that would be almost identical.". Read it here:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89939
Put the actual H.P. Lovecraft story itself ( synopsis here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_the_Mountains_of_Madness#Plot_summary )together with what we already know about PROMETHEUS from the trailers and speculation and, well, you can piece it all together for yourself. What I got from it all is that this flick is going to be extremely cool and justifying my anticipation for it! And from what I can tell, it sounds very very similar to a rathe rlengthy plot summary I read earlier on this site. Anyway, hope this is of interest to someone....

iapetus
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 8:34 PMthanks for your opinions, I can hear that.
However, don't get me wrong, but no one has yet brought up any factual element that would play against her tweets. I find it quite reassuring that her story is made up of everything we see in the trailers, cause I'm pretty sure that in the end, the stuff we see in the trailers also happens to be what the movie is made of ;)
Seriously, I'm really after hearing as much opinions as we can get for it gives us a temperature of people's feelings. But saying 'FAKE!' or even 'I think it's fake' won't do much to change anyone's mind.
As I sayed, I'm tempted to believe it for after starting to gather all the latest info over last 10 days and reading the bits of info spread in the holly magazine i keep telling about but still don't have with me, her version exactly matches the theory I was coming up with. Moreover, it's false that she's not introducing novel elements - or at least not-so-frequently-mentioned ones **SPOILERS** as in Vickers who wants her father Weyland out of the way [in line with what I have posted Theron said about her character] ; Weyland kicking David's butt [haven't read that elsewhere] etc etc...
In the end, her version adds a bit of stuff to mine which makes sense with it ; and my version and info adds a bit of stuff where hers lacks details/depth/perspective... So I promise I'll do my best to post my stuff soon, as to me this all make a coherent, well supported whole.
But even had she not seen the movie, let's say some of us like her theory and some don't, but nothing has yet come to prove it false...

John D.
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 8:37 PMI am calling B.S. on the Twitter spoilers.
Back in the 90's, my girlfriend and I were invited to a test screening (NOT an "Advance Screening") of a movie. We didn't know what movie it was until we got to the theater and were seated. It was for a film called "Wings of the Dove." And yes, we were given cards with boxes to check off, and there was a Q&A afterwards inside the theater with the people who (I assume) were there from the production company or whoever. We were basically a focus group. The film we saw had no musical score yet, and the opening credits were basically crude title cards. I do not remember there being any closing credits.
Interestingly, I remember that some of our negative reactions to certain scenes turned out to be exactly the reaction that the filmmakers must have been looking for, because I saw the final version of the film much later and they hadn't changed those scenes. But I digress...
The point is this: that test screening took place MONTHS before the film was released - in fact it was far in advance of even the first trailers. If "Prometheus" already has its final rating (the R) then that means the final cut of the film has already been submitted to the Rating Board. They are the ones who would have theoretically said "OK if you want a PG/G/X/whatever, you'll need to cut this and this and this," and then Ridley could go back and edit it and present it again for whatever rating he was trying to get... or to get the R, or whatever. But they're not going to submit the film for its rating, GET a rating, and [i]then[/i] go back and do more test screenings to get audience reactions & see what they should cut, or change, or reshoot. That's not how it works.
Now, it's possible that this person was at some kind of industry insider screening, or maybe at some kind of preview for the marketing department to come up with ideas on how to promote the film now that it has its final rating, but think about it: what industry insider is going to go Tweeting about the film's plot almost immediately after such a screening? It would be an insanely bad move for any number of reasons.
So, yeah, I call B.S. The person posting that stuff on Twitter did not just see a test screening of Prometheus, and nobody anywhere has heard even a whisper of a rumor of any advance screenings being held. It's just another oddball looking for attention on the interwebs. Don't believe a word of it.

iapetus
MemberOvomorphMay-07-2012 9:08 PMok 4AM in Paris, end of posting and working altogether for today...
Thanks for your inpue John D., interesting and balanced point you make. I'm not letting it go until I hear people's argument once I posted more info and my attempt at a plot outline, but what you say does make sense indeed.
For those interested, Viscal just posted 2 more small screenshots of bits messages he later exchanged with the 'twiter-ess' about relations and action going on between David and Weyland...
**SPOILERS**
[url=http://i.imgur.com/gAyvn.png]here[/url] and [url=http://i.imgur.com/P7i79.jpg]here[/url]
It's all on [url=http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/825/advance-prometheus-screening-reaction-spoilers/p21]page 21 of his thread[/url]
Also, even if we're not all on the same wavelength, I'm glad to see my first thread seems to have caught some momentum, so thanks everyone for your feedback! see you guys later
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