Spot the difference?

Feck Batman doesnt look now like he did in the 60s tv series!

Thats half the fun tho, isnt it DAVRO59?

[img]http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/files/imagecache/feature_img/space%20jockey.jpg[/img] Yes thats a good image..... and looking at this again compared to the Human it seems to be about 12ft i would say.... The head does look compared to that production crews head to be about 20% larger maybe than the head that the crew of Prometheus examine.... Which again goes with the Jockey in Prometheus being 9-10ft compared to about 12ft in Alien.... Back to the image i posted with the highighted points... If you could see the full image of both and look at the Joystick/controll part of the chair and while yes the Arms are different and in Prometheus look like they wont stretch, but the actual size of this controll/joystick part in relation to the head is about the same in both movies. Also note that below the Circle above the heads, you can see another part of the Chair in Prometheus and not in Alien..... This to me goes with what i have said a number of times that the Prometheus Jockeys head is not upright as far back against the headrest... he is slouched down which can give impression of being smaller by some way. In Alien his head is right up against the headrest so to speak and thus covers that extra part of the chair that you can see above his head in Prometheus.

[img]http://i48.tinypic.com/2a660cn.jpg[/img] Here is what i mean about the slouched position, note that where the line is drawn in both images is above what looks to be the same part at the very top of the Chair. The Prometheus one has some other details to the Chair between that line and the Pilots shoulder height.... In Alien those details are not there because the Pilot is right back on the chair and thus covers them... Hope you get what i mean? And looking at this image and the other with the circles, you can see that the Jockey compared to the Chair is not a massive difference only really the longer arms stand out. Of course a Bigger Jockey would also explain why we cant see those parts of the chair and why the others head is right back.... But then look at that like nozzle part below the lines that is hilighted in other image by the first circle.... compare them to the heads.... They are the same size to the head in both, which rules out a much bigger guy theory.

also, the smaller jockey isn't as wide as the 1979. Look at how far away the shoulder is from the edge of the chair. A rather slight build on the 2012. It's gotta be Shaw for sure in my opinion.

yeah, again, many differences, and its not only the height that gives the new one a tiny look in the seat compared..The ´78 version has this horrifying look because he has surreal elements, non human, kinda human, biomech..and its a quite exact take of Gigers design, as he was a set sculptor, too. [URL=http://www.imagebanana.com/view/g73dq5q9/giger.jpg][IMG]http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/g73dq5q9/thumb/giger.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@IrishAndroid1 But isn't there a shot (gif) done by someone that shows what looks like an Engineers upper arm being revealed by the closing/opening of the suit? Also, wouldn't a human (or David) need to strip in order to get into it? The big engineer walking around would appear to be a "nudist" in the mindset that s/he's not wearing a "separate" (gets in the way) suit/uniform.

Ultimately, I think this is just similar but different technologies at different times in their evolution. I'm sure there was a "close enough" mindset in the art department too. If you look at the cockpit of B1 Bomber and then look at that of a 747, they're different. But, they're both cockpits and readily identifiable as such. I don't see any way for the two productions to perfectly reconcile these two different jockeys in two different ships in two different story lines within the storyline of Prometheus alone, and I personally don't need that to happen. I also SERIOUSLY DOUBT that anyone on Prometheus assumed that BigDave would do what he's done above in terms of this type of very thorough analysis. Most casual fans will see Prometheus and think, OH! There's the Space Jockey from Alien. I get it. And they'll move on.

"The big engineer walking around would appear to be a "nudist" in the mindset that s/he's not wearing a "separate" (gets in the way) suit/uniform" Trust me you will see a naked Engineer in this movie ;) As i have said there could be differences that Ridley is just trying to change. I estimate about 2ft difference no more..... Then again i was going to get a Magazine SCFI now with Prometheus special i read though quickly and it had the all the Alien Aliens inc Pred Alien and gave some info their heights and how to kill them. The SJ it was unknown how to kill and had a height of 7.9M oh yeah about 25ft.... after that error i decided not to buy it. I would assume Ridley will show us the Alien Jockey and how he got there and in that scene i expect the Ship and Jockey to look more closer in size to the Prometheus one than the Alien one, even though its meant to be the same guy.

I posted this else where in the David debate, but what if David morphs into the Space Jockey, growing and discarding the head and upper torso, ala Ash from Alien. That could account for the David head in the shot with the blue guy. Otherwise one of the Davids has simply been decapitated as has been suggested.

Keep in minds that the Juggernut (complete with SJ and chair design) on LV-426 is in the order of 1 million years old. The juggernaut we will see in Prometheus on-LV-223 is a much newer Juggernaut, thus the differences you see. Compare it to an antique [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T]Ford Model T[/url] (produced between 1908 - 1927) and the current [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fusion_(Europe)]Ford Fusion[/url] (produced between 2002 - 2011). Wouldn't the "chairs" look different? Wouldn't the "drivers (pilots)" look different? I would hope so, no?

Speaking of Ford... Whoever this SJ is, I think this is the one that kills Ford, the merc guarding her and also decapitates David.

Big Dave how are you on crop circles? I Love crop circles can you draw me some crop circles?

To be honest - the good old space jockey looked MUCH nicer to me! The new one looks like some "video-game-copy-of-the-original". I like this "realism" in ALIEN, which i can not find in "steril" prometheus. Its a pitty they did not bring back GIGER to design prometheus - the MASTER is the MASTER! But maybe he is to old and can not do the job any more, who knows...

OK, new at this. If the crashed ship is the same one in the movie and in Alien, how could there even be a pilot in the chair with his chest blown out in Alien. In Prometheus, the "engineer" leaves the chair , and ship to chase Dr. Shaw, and dies in the escape pod. No one should be in that chair. Discussing size and differences of the pilot, maybe the one in Alien was an earlier model, and the "engineers" were a little smaller. Saying that Alien could have happened on any planet. If it was a different ship on a different planet, who was the warning signal coming from. It couldn't be from Dr. Shaw, The "engineer" pilot?

OK, new at this. If the crashed ship is the same one in the movie and in Alien, how could there even be a pilot in the chair with his chest blown out in Alien. In Prometheus, the "engineer" leaves the chair , and ship to chase Dr. Shaw, and dies in the escape pod. No one should be in that chair. Discussing size and differences of the pilot, maybe the one in Alien was an earlier model, and the "engineers" were a little smaller. Saying that Alien could have happened on any planet. If it was a different ship on a different planet, who was the warning signal coming from. It couldn't be from Dr. Shaw, The "engineer" pilot?

There could be a simple explanation for the differences. 1-The Space Jockey seen in Alien (1979) is the fossilized corpse of an alien organism. He belongs to an ancient race that built spaceships. 2-The Suit seen in Prometheus is a bio-mechanic suit the Engineers had to wear in order to pilot ships that were not originally designed for humanoid bodies. That would mean the Engineers copied/stole/bought their technology from the Space Jockey race and adapted it to their own purposes. Mystery solved!