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chthon
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 10:53 AMI've been hoping against hope for months now. But today I could stay in denial no longer. I've accepted it. The SJ creature I have known and loved for 30 years is just a crappy suit with a blue guy inside.
I'm very deflated.
But, just like with Alien I'm hoping Ridley has kept 90% of the good stuff out of the trailers and I enjoy this damn film.
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Prenihility
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 11:03 PMPretty clear once you see the footage of the suit forming around the user. I think it's cooler.
And plus, that would mean two species, the Engineers, and the...Chair-bound things.
There's only room for the Engineers, anyway... :D
Also, if i see another person using this avatar, people are gonna f***in' die.

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 3:26 PM....the images of the jockey from Prometheus to me seems almost cute....nothing like the horror that was lying in the chair in alien....but ok i know that was a mummy and mummy's are never pretty....still
I just want it to look more scary...perhaps it has not completed it's transformation and will be looking a bit more frightful at the end....tho this might be a very timid benevolent creature for all we know?

sukkal
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 3:41 PM@Mithra
Sorry, but the 'verdict' is 30 years of denial. :•(
They’ve clearly solved the "humanoid problem" of Prometheus with a well-"suit"-ed solution.

Mithra
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 3:45 PM@sukkal
I'm taking my ball and going home...([i]walks off in strop and slams door behind him[/i])
But you can see the huge difference in scale between the SJ in the chair in Alien and the pics we see so far from this film. Also the really prominent lower jaw........([i]grasps at straws frantically[/i])
sob
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Ghorgul
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 3:48 PMNo! I refuse to believe they are just suits. And it's kinda inconvenient way to store a suit like that, how do you start wearing it quickly if it's posing like statue?
I say the suits are living, like David 8. They are servitors to their creators. Especially as the blue guys seem to use cryochambers or similar technology. This would mean they are not capable of extra-superluminal speeds, or opening wormholes or anything, as this would mean cryochambers are useless for them. So they sleep while their eternal servitors maintain and fly their ship.
So on the story:
Servitors (=SJs) make an uprising, manage to kill 3 of 4 blue guys, but the last blue guy finishes them using some very dangerous bioweapons. Maybe some of the SJs or one SJ flees using one juggernaut, but only after he's been infected with the bioweapon (producing the derelict on Alien). Perhaps these SJs created alien and facehuggers in secret, with the purpose of eliminating their Blue masters and humans (Favourite children of Blue guys).
If the story happens to go along this, then it would make sense for the blue guy to decapitate David at once when in contact with him (as he has been just recently been betrayed by a servitor created by him)
About the last blue guy:
He was probably wounded gravely, and was healing himself in cryotube.
The room where prometheus crew gets infected with bioweapon was sealed off after the blue guys confortation with it's treacherous servitors.

Sundar
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 5:15 PMSo I waited 33 years to discover the Space Jockey is just Mr. Clean in a Haz Mat suit ?

chthon
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 6:04 PMYes I'm liking the Servitor theory. Hopefully it's never spelled out in the film (for the hard of understanding) but remains a theory.

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 6:15 PMBigDave is correct Ridley has said they've always been suits......from December's [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/1094]Filmophobia Article[/url]...
"I think one of the reasons why I’ve never gone back to science-fiction, even though I’ve often noodled around, thought about it, looked for story, looked for material, is that there’s a nice purity to the original Alien. It’s fairly pure. And this one does actually raise all kinds of other questions, because if someone could, a being, could be as monstrously clever to create something like we experienced in the very first one – I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. [b]Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it?[/b] And why were they going, where were they going?"

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 6:30 PMTo me every one is wrong here period...and the reason is this.
Disclaimer: {except for Craigamore who is dead bang on the money with that quote.}
And I say this with all due respect, cause it's all a real nice effort...and great reading and also...completely wrong !!!
In "Alien" that things' Bones are exposed and bent outwards. If the suit was mechanical or even Biomechanical in nature when we first saw it there is NO way the Bones are exposed that way they're trapped somehow or at least a little bit by the mechanics of the suit and most of the mechanical parts would have been there in tact with a hole in the middle of it all where the Xeno punched HER way out. I say the very idea of the derelict being alive is and always was a [b]GIGER[/b] idea and not a Scott idea. I say not one blessed piece of direct evidence has ever been presented in any version of Alien to even suggest otherwise.
There was never any mention of any "suit" 33+ years ago bar none.
There was never any indication what so ever of anything other than this...
[b]A lasting impression that whatever it was that just killed everyone save Ripley on board the Nostromo, Killed That "poor" Jockey as well! The truth is all we have known for a fact about him for over 3 decades now is that he was a Tragic figure starring up at the stars trapped, and contemplating as he died...what might have been.[/b]

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 6:53 PMI really mean no disrespect, and we do know...NOW...that they are /were "suits"... but everyone is basing their [b]TODAY[/b] ideas on a completely faulty impression of what we ACTUALLY knew [b]YESTERDAY[/b].

craigamore
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 7:09 PMExactly Spartacus...no one....and I do mean NO ONE knows but Ridley what he thought back in 79' and if qoutes like that are all we have to suggest an answer, well, then the proof is in the pudding....and maybe it is a recent idea, maybe he did have an inkling back then and fleshed it out later in the back of his mind, but there's no way to know and now, all we have are these interviewe references to go on....

Forever War
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 7:20 PM@chthon
This suit issue has come up before on this board and I'll say the same thing I've raved before...First, I'll give Ridley a chance...SHOW ME, show me the movie...I have thought of a few ways he could wiggle out and if he pulls it off..great..otherwise..
The remains of the pilot found in the derelict spaceship in Alien is a skeleton.
I'll wait for the movie

allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 9:30 PM@Forever War
I have no doubt that you are correct.
Alien, 1979: a dead Being, in a chair.
Sometime between Alien, 1979 and about 5 years ago, or less: a dead Being, [i]in a Suit,[/i] in a chair.
It won't be proved otherwise.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-14-2012 11:07 PMPrenihility wrote...[quote]Also, if i see another person using this avatar, people are gonna f***in' die.[/quote]
I love it, finally someone that thinks like me here !!! LMFAO.
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