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So I seanb1888 did stephenmac233 tell yo if the movie was an epic like we hope for or are we in for a Phantom Menace of a let down? That's what I want to know.

I think this movie is a prequel only in the sense that it takes place in the same universe at an earlier in time than "Alien", without being a direct bridge. I'm betting that it explains what Space Jockeys essentially are (my guess - a bio-weapon delivery system to wipe out / terraform a planet, based on a host organism encased within a biomechanical suit), without specifically addressing the one seen in Alien. I think we're left to speculate how that ship landed on LV-426, what alien race was involved, and what went wrong. Prometheus would allow us to see the derelict in Alien and realize what it meant, while preserving the mystery itself (still one of my favorite aspects of Alien). This allows Prometheus to explore different threats - including the Engineers, the true force behind all of this, but as yet unseen - and different alien life forms. I don't think there's going to be any need for a Prometheus 2. I want this movie to raise as many thought-provoking questions as Alien did, while shedding some light on those older mysteries.

@ BigDave, cheers for clarifying, i think i get what you meant now in the previous post too. the way i've understood the 'not-really but almost a prequel' (mis)direction is that Alien exists in a universe, with some features defined,i.e. Weyland being a big company, there's a planet LV426 with some naughty little eggs on it, and a crashed ship. so, a scene and world is set.... prometheus exists within that scene, universe, but at an earlier time. Everything in Alien will happen just the way it did, but the prometheus thread of films doesn't have to link to it at all. prometheus could be the grand big story, Alien would fit within it, but more as a short story. It's a much more interesting story with lots of potential for a deeper set of films, films that already are inspiring debate (look at the threads locked for evidence). So, i'm hoping there is no further attemot to link prometheus with Alien. We've ben there, seen that, i'd like them to tell a new story now, hopefully without old badguys from the 70s.

Okay. This sounds reasonably plausible, [u]but I still don't believe it[/u]. There have been too many yo-yo's out running around on the web saying they've "seen" the movie, but they never seem to want to release any "real" details about the plot. With every other movie that I've ever encountered, whether it be a Star Wars prequel, or something else, people who have seen these films in advanced have never hesitated to leak major spoilers. So why now, with Prometheus, are all these pre-screeners suddenly tight-lipped? I have a young nephew who likes to make up a lot of fantastic fiction like, "I was chased by a hog, and he almost got me." However, when you press him for details, he says, "I"m not going to say." In the same way, it's funny how these "pre-screeners" never want to give away anything that we truly haven't heard already. This is in no way meant as slam against seanb1888, but I am getting a little exhausted with all these "I've seen it" plot threads.

I have to disagree. Prometheus 2 should be there because we are into sci-fi universe so unexplained questions doesn't make sense. Sometimes answers even if they don't satisfy or low down our curiosity are good. In any case, I agree with the comment that said, we are going to see something unexpected.

@ Predatordreads from what he has said it dose sound epic and there is alot that we haven't seen so hopefully hes the real deal and some one thats not making up story's as bigdave has posted theres a scene that he explained that is not in the trailers it makes scene. bar that he has no gave much away!! But do we really want to know the story before we even see it? kinda glad hes not splashed it all over here like other trolls. so maybe itis true

Can't win with fanboys. if someone posted every single detail there'd be someone who said it didn't fit the trailers, as if the trailers were already giving everything away. there'd be cries of bullshit echoing for a long time. If someone has seen it and is more low key, not wanting to ruin peoples experience, he is still derided. I'm glad he's keeping it low key

@ Windood - I think we'll just have to wait to see the film for ourselves to truly know. However, you make a good point.

Whether true or not NONE of the secret reviewers will be able to tell you the last 8-11mins because Fox didn't let that go out with the trailers ... makes sense really ... so they won't know the ending ... But ... I don't think they know the movie either ... if I saw it, I would (on request) spill the f*ckin lot ... I'm so tired of these so called wannabees who hold back info to make themselves feel supreme ... just answer the sodding questions FFS ... simples ... aint rocket science ... is it? ... They're ALL now starting to give me the needle ... :) ... @Windood ... Yeah that would happen ... but then I'd rather they ALL just shut theirs mouths to be honest ... and say NOTHING because sayin' something still gives them false Cred for no reason ... Sorry ... I'm bored and it's FRIDAY :) ...

Yeah but Ridley would still get many questions that need answers.... If this movie does not give better vague hints, i hope Ridley can in Prometheus 2 cover the Xeno in a vague sence... Maybe via just Mural or Flash Back that Engineers created something before, went a bit wrong, had to get rid of it and out of harms way....... so sent ship with said creation to quarantine it... We already know the answer, and the answer is very simular to that, just some kind of very vague aknowledgement would do....

@Gem]n[ i would to sugest you PM him..... You could gauge if he has seen it or not then........ The biggest question now is does Ridley want this to be considered Canon.... or pretty much go the route of AVP in that its not Canon to Alien as per say.

@ Gem]n[ - Amen!!!

Then after you PM him, spill the lot!!!

[quote]Then after you PM him, spill the lot!!![/quote] I just Pi$$ed myself ... brb ... @Dave ... I'm pretty good at gauging just by reading ;) ...

@ azalard there surely is some one out there that has seen this film and yet no one has shot there load yet lol im the same as you i dont know what to belave due to there being that much fake sh*t floating about! who knows tho he could be genuine just wish he would just let the cat out the bag n give us something we dont know....

I don't know why that was so funny to me after the fact...lol!

Reading the rather abstruse/oblique spoilers, it would appear that Alien is a sort of Prometheus Gaiden of sorts - that the original film is a side story which would allow the universe of Prometheus to take tell its own stories without constantly having to refer to the original xenomorph. In video game terms, Alien is the Majora's Mask to Prometheus's Skyward Sword... Cheers

'' that the original film is a side story which would allow the universe of Prometheus to take tell its own stories''... like when Baywatch spun off Baywatch Hawaii, Baywatch Nights and the engrossing Baywatch:Hawaiian Wedding.

More like david v goliath = Alien and prometheus = bible in terms of scope and range. it looks like they've gone for a large canvas, so as not to be hemmed in by the non stop nitpicking over the most obscure bullshit irrelevant details (like what font the screens have) and other major concerns.

I'm still lost, so Dukes of Hazard vs. Knight Rider = Cannonball Run

Speculation is not a spoiler, and no, this guy did not see the movie.

@ Sundar "... like when Baywatch spun off Baywatch Hawaii, Baywatch Nights and the engrossing Baywatch:Hawaiian Wedding." ... as many folk feel Alien3 onwards was! I used the game metaphor to describe how RS appears to want to spin Alien and what followed into a separate path, so Alien is only tangentially tied to Prometheus. Thus not a "prequel" in the sense "The Thing" 2011 was to JC's "The Thing". I would expect Prometheus to end alluding rather than showing what led to the crash of the ship in Alien. BTW on subject, who's to say those who have seen the film have seen the entire film? There could be a coda that has been removed before the final copies ship to reviewers. This is common practice; indeed even reviewers not seeing the complete finished work to keep something big hidden. Cheers